Pope Francis at Mass: Bishops must pray to overcome 'Great Accuser’ - Vatican

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By the way, the Pope said no such thing about Homosexuals.

Homosexuality is a mental illness. God made them that way in this fallen world, with an illness. Its a cross to carry, like the MILLIONS of other cross people carry.

Or do you argue that God didn’t make people with down syndrome that way? or OCD that way?
 
God makes imperfect people in an imperfect world, exposed to all manner of chemical pollution and environmental pollution and cultural pollution. Hence Homosexuality, and its rise.

Homosexuals are no worse or better than you in Gods eyes. SINNERS like me. SINNERS like you.
 
I don’t even know how to respond to you Fishy! We don’t close our eyes to “this” reality of Satan using anything possible. But for you to equate a demand for “no more coverups” and “transparency now” to be slander, is ludicrous.
 
Read social media and how they are treating the Chair of Peter. Read how satan is latching on to this and having his day.
 
Further, we as humans are bent on vengeance. Brutal vengeance. we must turn away from this CRITICAL part of original sin, and instead turn towards mercy.

Cursing and Condemning Pope Francis is slander and satans work - END OF STORY.

Repaying evil (in the form of the original sex abuse) with blind evil, is, well, evil. How else can I put it?
 
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You’ve missed his point ENTIRELY.

Sin, mon ami is when we fly off, half cocked accusing everything and everyone and burning down the building with everything in it.

Blatantly and unapologetically asking the Pope to resign without any hard evidence is SIN - END OF STORY.

Have respect for the Chair and Office of St. Peter.

Calling for inquiry like the American Bishops did is right. Calling for the Pope to resign is SIN.

satan has used social media to his benefit for the DAMNATION of souls.
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What sins?

Lets see:

Slander, leaving the faith, slander, slander, slander and more slander.

Social media is a HOTBED for satans trickery. Or do you close you eyes to his reality? I hope and trust not.

MY FINAL POINT: Its one thing to report the news and comment on the news, its another thing entirely to SLANDER others.
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Calm down and respond to what was posted, not what you imagine was evil intent.

Did I call for anyone to resign? If you’d like to know- and not guess my opinion, I’d be happy to discuss. Just ask me.

Slander is sinful. Leaving the faith is sinful. All fornication, including sodomy, is sinful. Allowing prelates to continue to corrupt the flock of Christ (whether physically or spiritually or both) -the flock they’ve been appointed to guard is sinful.

All Catholics are obligated to respect the office of the papacy, to pledge our filial obedience, and to pray for him. Pope Francis is the man who, today, occupies the Chair.

Where is the disagreement or the trickery?
 
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dude. I didn’t say it was you. check social media. check the comments section
 
FishyPete said:
By the way, the Pope said no such thing about Homosexuals.

Homosexuality is a mental illness. God made them that way in this fallen world, with an illness. Its a cross to carry, like the MILLIONS of other cross people carry.

Or do you argue that God didn’t make people with down syndrome that way? or OCD that way?
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The Church teaches that homosexuality is a mental illness? Can you please provide the evidence?
  • CCC calls homosexual acts “intrinsically disordered.” Translation: these acts, by their very nature, are opposed to God’s design. God doesn’t DESIGN people to be disordered. He creates humans with the ability to reason and thus discover the natural law written into his/her nature. To use their reason to justify disordered activity is not of God’s design. To reason that God creates them that way and loves the disorder is wrong.
  • God DOES create people with Downs Syndrome and I am blessed to be the god-parent of such a beautiful soul. To liken a genetic condition to a cross, such as the struggle with mental illness or to the disorder of homosexuality, isn’t logical.
- Pope Pius XI, Casti Connubii , December 31, 1930, “But no reason, however grave, may be put forward by which anything intrinsically against nature may become conformable to nature and morally good.”
FishyPete said:
God makes imperfect people in an imperfect world, exposed to all manner of chemical pollution and environmental pollution and cultural pollution. Hence Homosexuality, and its rise.

Homosexuals are no worse or better than you in Gods eyes. SINNERS like me. SINNERS like you.
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Interesting explanation for rise of homosexuality. I don’t doubt it could be a contributing factor. Another possibility could be the celebration and positive exposure of this disorder in society. Specifically in the Church, however, this vice has not been dealt with as She has done in the past 2,000 years. In fact, if you believe the numerous seminarians and priests who have spoken about the culture they faced in seminaries or parishes, Church leaders dealt out punishments to those who spoke AGAINST this vice.
 
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Blatantly and unapologetically asking the Pope to resign without any hard evidence is SIN - END OF STORY.
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I get tired of these claims that AB Vigano had no hard evidence. He presented the evidence: what can be verified without seeing files in the Nuncio and Secretary of State has pretty much been verified. And he participated in the conversations with the Holy Father. Any court of law allows a direct participant in a conversation to testify as to what the conversation contained and that is accepted as evidence.

So he had evidence. It was poor judgement to call for the Pope’s resignation IMO. I cannot say it was sinful. I can say for certain he presented evidence.

Again, everyone, pray for the Holy Father. He is getting the ball rolling the last few days as to the entire set of scandals that is besetting the church. He will be fighting the devil every step of the way. He needs our prayers.
 
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope-...the-christian-style.html#.W5pz6aTbIFM.twitter

Pope Francis, in his most recent sermon, discusses the Great Accuser again:
In his homily, Pope Francis said that Christians should never enter “into gossiping,” or “into the logic of insults,” which only cause “war,” but to always find time “to pray for annoying people”:

It is certainly easy to “badmouth enemies or those who are of a different party,” but Christian logic goes against the current, and follows the “folly of the Cross.” The ultimate goal, Pope Francis added, “is to get to the point where we behave ourselves like children of our Father”:

Life fluctuates between two invitations: That of the Father and that of the “Great Accuser,” “who pushes us to accuse others, to destroy them”:
*But it is he who is destroying me! And you cannot do it to the other. You cannot enter into the logic of the accuser. ‘But Father, I have to accuse.’ Yes, accuse yourself. You do well. For the other, only mercy, because we are children of the Father who is merciful.
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Is Pope Francis saying the Great Accuser is gossiping, insulting, destroying him? Who is the annoying person accusing him …AB Vigano?

There’s a simple way to expose Vigano if he is cooperating with the Father of Lies…release the documents Vigano says are in the Apostolic nunciature and the Vatican. Release the dossier left you by Pope Benedict that details the financial and moral corruption in the Curia. Expose him as a liar.
 
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Dude, you VASTLY underestimate satan.

Again, lets agree to disagree otherwise we will be here for the next 100 years.
 
FishyPete said:
Dude, you VASTLY underestimate satan.

Again, lets agree to disagree otherwise we will be here for the next 100 years.
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ok, but I don’t know what is disagreeable between us. Satan’s influence IS vast. If he can get us to lose our Faith, he has us for all eternity. Sadly, many do not know…they have lost the Faith. They no longer know what the Faith teaches.
“ The Lord told us that the Church would always be suffering, in different ways, until the end of the world. …As for the news that we can discover today (in this Third Secret of the Fatima message), there is also the fact that not only are the Pope and the Church attacked from outside, but the sufferings of the Church come from interior of the Church, from the sin that exists in the Church. This too has always been known, but today we see it in a truly terrifying way: that the greatest persecution of the Church does not come from outside enemies, but arises from sin in the Church ."
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These were the words of Pope Benedict XVI, on the flight back to Rome from Fatima on May 11, 2010, cited by Archbishop Georg Gänswein yesterday in Rome, during a presentation of the book by Rod Dreher, The Benedict Option , which he said caused him to recall the words of Pope Benedict on that occasion
 
FishyPete said:
The original human criminals are guilty, as are anyone who covered up for them. But GUESS WHAT? Jesus died for them to, news flash THEY CAN BE FORGIVEN. But not by social media.
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Anybody else uncomfortable with the notion that a priest that rapes a boy, or several, will go to Heaven, because another priest, who may be guilty of the same crimes, or even complicit in the original priest’s crimes, forgives him, but the young boy(s), who is(are) raped and because of the trauma inflicted by a Man of God, rejects the Church or even God Himself, won’t?
 
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You are thinking like a man and not God.

How about the first time St. STEPHEN met St. PAUL in heaven. How did the conversation go? Hey dude wernt yiu the guy who approved me being murdered?
 
FishyPete said:
How about the first time St. STEPHEN met St. PAUL in heaven. How did the conversation go? Hey dude wernt yiu the guy who approved me being murdered?
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Sounds like you’re implying that the raped young man who rejects God and the Church is going to meet his rapist in Heaven.
 
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