Pope John Paul II 'whipped himself to feel closer to God'

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Pope John Paul II regularly whipped himself as an act of penance

The late Pope John Paul II, who has been put on the fast track to sainthood by the Vatican, regularly whipped himself as an act of penance to feel closer to God, and signed a secret document saying that would step down as pontiff if he became incurably ill, according to a new book.

Why a Saint? by Monsignor Slawomir Oder, the Vatican “postulator” in charge of the canonisation process, says the Polish-born Pope performed self flagellation as a bishop in Krakow and continued to do so in the Vatican after being elected Pope in 1978.

“In his wardrobe, among his vestments, there hung on a clothes hanger a special belt for trousers which he used as a whip,” Monsignor Oder says. He said self flagellation was “an instrument of Christian perfection” emulating the sufferings of Jesus Christ.

He added that in Poland the former Bishop Karol Wojtyla often slept on the bare floor to practice self-denial and asceticism, often disturbing his bed in the morning to pretend he had slept in it and so avoid drawing attention to his act of penitence.

The fact that John Paul whipped himself in “bodily penance” was first revealed last November by Sister Tobiana Sobodka, a Polish nun who worked for Pope John Paul in his Vatican apartment and at the papal summer residence at Castel Gandolfo in the hills south of Rome.

In Santo Subito (A Saint Now) by Andrea Tornielli, the Pope’s biographer and Vatican correspondent of Il Giornale, Sister Sobodka, who belongs to the Order of the Sacred Heart of Jesus said “We would hear it – we were in the next room at Castel Gandolfo. You could hear the sound of the blows when he would flagellate himself. He did it when he was still capable of moving on his own."

In 1986, in his annual Letter to Priests, John Paul wrote: “What one must see in these forms of penance – which, unfortunately, our times are not accustomed to – are the motives: the love of God and the conversion of sinners.” Saints who flagellated themselves include St. Francis of Assisi, St. Teresa of Avila, St. Ignatius of Loyola, Mother Teresa and St. Thomas More.

Last month Pope Benedict XVI recognised John Paul II’s “heroic virtues”, a step towards beatification, which is expected in the autumn after the Pope has approved a miracle attributed to John Paul involving a French nun inexplicably cured of Parkinson’s disease after praying to him. This will then be followed by canonisation, which requires proof of a second miracle.

Monsignor Oder confirms that in 1989 John Paul, who suffered from Parkinson’s disease, prepared a document stating that he would resign “in the case of infirmity which is presumed incurable, long-lasting and which impedes me from sufficiently carrying out the functions of my apostolic ministry.” Popes are normally elected for life.

The last Pope to step down voluntarily was Celestine V in 1294. Pope John Paul asked Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, then head of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and now Pope Benedict, to study the theological implications of papal resignation.

The book also says John Paul forgave Mehmet Ali Agca, his would-be assassin, in the ambulance on the way to the hospital moments after he was shot on May 13, 1981, in St. Peter’s Square. Agca was released from prison in Turkey this month and has vowed to pray at John Payul’s tomb in Rome.

The book also reports for the first time that John Paul initially thought that his attacker was a member of the Red Brigades, the extreme left wing group which carried out a campaign of murder and kidnapping in the 1970s and 80s, known in Italy as “The Years of Lead”.

Pope Benedict put John Paul on the fast track for sainthood shortly after his death in April 2005 death by waiving the customary five-year waiting period before the beatification and canonisation process can begin.

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timesonline.co.uk
 
Pope John Paul II wouldn’t be the only saint who has practiced flagellation in penance for his sins. Indeed, during the era in which he was a seminarian, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had been required, or at least encouraged, of all seminarians in most of the world’s seminaries.
 
This is pretty interesting, and something I was never aware of before, As to the ‘secret document’ he signed, suggesting he may, possibly, resign. Is there proof of this, is it accessable for researchers?
 
at first this article bothered me, partially i suppose coming from our western mindset, but then as i thought on it, it struck me, is that so much different than say fasting? or denying things to yourself to draw closer to God? just a pondering moment…
 
at first this article bothered me, partially i suppose coming from our western mindset, but then as i thought on it, it struck me, is that so much different than say fasting? or denying things to yourself to draw closer to God? just a pondering moment…
I don’t like hearing about it, it seems crazy. I don’t think it does his cause to sainthood any good, does it? I mean, it seems extreme.
 
I don’t like hearing about it, it seems crazy. I don’t think it does his cause to sainthood any good, does it? I mean, it seems extreme.
It actually does not affect the cause of sainthood one way or another for two reasons.
  1. His heroic virtues have already been approved. There is not turning back on that. What is left is for a miracle due to his intercession to be proven and that can be dispensed with by the pope. Once a pope is convinced that a person has lived a life of heroic faith, he does not need the miracle. That’s an additional safeguard, but not a doctrinal requirement. Many saints have been canonized on the faith of the pope. That’s all that’s required, because canonization is an ex-Cathedra statement. The sanctity of the person need not be proven, as long as the pope beleives it, he can declare that the person is in heaven and the decree is binding on all Catholics, meaning that everyone must accept the new saint. I doubt that this will happen, but it can happen that way. This was the case with St. Francis, St. Anthony and St. Clare. They were never beatified and no studies of miracles were ever conducted. The popes believed that they were saints and canonized them less than two years after their deaths. Who would dare deny that any of them are not saints?
  2. John Paul II was not only a holy man, but also a scholar in philosophy and theology. He knew the rules that govern such discipline. If you have the guidance and authorizatio of your religious superior or a spiritual director to use such forms of penance, then you are are fine. John Paul II was not a religious. He was a secular priest; but he had a spiritual director. I can’t imagine keeping this from his spiritual director. Even a pope is bound to follow the rules of the spiritual life. We must remember that even if your spiritual director is not a priest, he is a master in the spiritual life. Not only that, but he is bound to silence on these matters, because many times, people reveal confessional material in spiritual direction. I have no idea if his spiritual director was a priest, brother or nun, but the matter is not relevant. The important thing is that he had one and there is no reason to doubt that the director knew and gave permission for these practices. As long as it’s approved and guided appropriately, it can be a means to holiness along with a life of intense prayer, fasting, abstinence, great works of charity and fidelity to the faith. That basically is the bolt of cloth out of which saints are cut.
Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I should correct something that I said above. I referred to John Paul II as a secular priest, which he was. Since he did belong to a diocese, his proper title is a diocesan priest. The term secular deacon, deacon or bishop is for those who do not belong to a diocese such as the SSPX, FSSP, Vincentians, Maryknoll and other priests who belong to priestly societies that do not make religious vows.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I don’t like hearing about it, it seems crazy. I don’t think it does his cause to sainthood any good, does it? I mean, it seems extreme.
Self - mortification of the flesh is an ancient custom common to numerous religious traditions, not excluding Christianity, and has been practiced by many saints and religious figures, including the Buddha, Jesus and Gandhi. Such mortification is often expressed through fasting, but does not exclude flagellation, exposure to the elements, sleep deprivation or piercing. The point of self - mortification is not to injure one’s body or destroy one’s health, but to move one beyond the realm of sensual experience in order to make contact with the divine. The thought that using such means in order to acccess the spiritual realm may be excessive is a relatively modern presumption born from a scientific world view which tends to approach the religious mindset with suspicion and no small degree of conceit.
Of course, as Brother JR has mentioned, the regular practice of self - mortification is not for everyone and should be approached only with firm guidance from a qualified spiritual director. I feel fairly confident that Pope John Paul’s movement toward canonization will not be impeded by the revelation that he regularly practiced flagellation, but will, in fact, be expedited because of it.
 
Thank you all for your thoughts on this, brings to mind some of the experiences of St Francis, and that of other cultures, rather than being an odd act of worship, as we westerners might consider it, its another mystery we can trust the Lord with
 
It may seem extreme, but when you honestly weigh the consequences of sin and that we can go to hell for eternity or suffer severe punishments in purgatory, something like this seems like the bare minimum we all ought to do. Not only as a self inflicted punishment but also to help discipline ourselves to avoid sin. As well many saints would undertake such sufferings not for their own sake but on behalf of others.

We need not go to the extent of flagellation, but in other ways such as denying ourselves pleasures, or prolonging other infirmities or even in the simple act of accepting troubles that come our way and bad times that we find ourselves in as a gift from God for our pennance or even on behalf of others for their salvation.

I’m not surprised to hear about these things from the man God choose to be our Pope.
 
I’m glad that JDnation mentioned sin and hell. I’m not familiar with every single saint who practiced this form of self-mortification. But I do know this from my formation in the religious life and that which I provide for new candidates to the religious life. It applies to the laity and the secular clergy as well.

We do not engage in acts of penance and mortification to avoid hell. That is a negative. Everything that we do in the spiritual life should be done as a positive. We engage in acts of mortification to acquire discipline, control the passions, root out faults (even the non-sinful ones), so that we may be free to obey the voice of the Holy Spirit that draws us into the mystery of divine love. This should never be about a fear of sin or hell. That would make it less than perfect. It must always be about disciplining ourselves so that we can meet the demands of love.

For each of us the degree and modalities of such discipline is going to differ. Because we are like finger prints. No two people have the same degree of disciplline or the same lack thereof. Self-mortification is always proportionate to what the individual needs to acquire enough discipline to respond to the invitation to love.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
This self torture gives me the creeps. CCC para. 364 “… man may not despise his bodily life. Rather he is obliged to regard his body as good and to hold it in honor…”.
 
The Times & The Sunday Times
(Plinio Lepri/AP)
Pope John Paul II regularly whipped himself as an act of penance

The late Pope John Paul II, who has been put on the fast track to sainthood by the Vatican, regularly whipped himself as an act of penance to feel closer to God, and signed a secret document saying that would step down as pontiff if he became incurably ill, according to a new book.

Why a Saint? by Monsignor Slawomir Oder, the Vatican “postulator” in charge of the canonisation process, says the Polish-born Pope performed self flagellation as a bishop in Krakow and continued to do so in the Vatican after being elected Pope in 1978.

“In his wardrobe, among his vestments, there hung on a clothes hanger a special belt for trousers which he used as a whip,” Monsignor Oder says. He said self flagellation was “an instrument of Christian perfection” emulating the sufferings of Jesus Christ.

He added that in Poland the former Bishop Karol Wojtyla often slept on the bare floor to practice self-denial and asceticism, often disturbing his bed in the morning to pretend he had slept in it and so avoid drawing attention to his act of penitence.

The fact that John Paul whipped himself in “bodily penance” was first revealed last November by Sister Tobiana Sobodka, a Polish nun who worked for Pope John Paul in his Vatican apartment and at the papal summer residence at Castel Gandolfo in the hills south of Rome.

In Santo Subito (A Saint Now) by Andrea Tornielli, the Pope’s biographer and Vatican correspondent of Il Giornale, Sister Sobodka, who belongs to the Order of the Sacred Heart of Jesus said “We would hear it – we were in the next room at Castel Gandolfo. You could hear the sound of the blows when he would flagellate himself. He did it when he was still capable of moving on his own."

In 1986, in his annual Letter to Priests, John Paul wrote: “What one must see in these forms of penance – which, unfortunately, our times are not accustomed to – are the motives: the love of God and the conversion of sinners.” Saints who flagellated themselves include St. Francis of Assisi, St. Teresa of Avila, St. Ignatius of Loyola, Mother Teresa and St. Thomas More.

Last month Pope Benedict XVI recognised John Paul II’s “heroic virtues”, a step towards beatification, which is expected in the autumn after the Pope has approved a miracle attributed to John Paul involving a French nun inexplicably cured of Parkinson’s disease after praying to him. This will then be followed by canonisation, which requires proof of a second miracle.

Monsignor Oder confirms that in 1989 John Paul, who suffered from Parkinson’s disease, prepared a document stating that he would resign “in the case of infirmity which is presumed incurable, long-lasting and which impedes me from sufficiently carrying out the functions of my apostolic ministry.” Popes are normally elected for life.

The last Pope to step down voluntarily was Celestine V in 1294. Pope John Paul asked Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, then head of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and now Pope Benedict, to study the theological implications of papal resignation.

The book also says John Paul forgave Mehmet Ali Agca, his would-be assassin, in the ambulance on the way to the hospital moments after he was shot on May 13, 1981, in St. Peter’s Square. Agca was released from prison in Turkey this month and has vowed to pray at John Payul’s tomb in Rome.

The book also reports for the first time that John Paul initially thought that his attacker was a member of the Red Brigades, the extreme left wing group which carried out a campaign of murder and kidnapping in the 1970s and 80s, known in Italy as “The Years of Lead”.

Pope Benedict put John Paul on the fast track for sainthood shortly after his death in April 2005 death by waiving the customary five-year waiting period before the beatification and canonisation process can begin.

Source -
timesonline.co.uk
Please forgive me if I am way off base on this … but … the Title " JP II whipped self to feel closer to God " stumps me. It seems to me that certain people conjectured that Pope JP II flagellated himself in penance. I cannot understand how he could NOT have felt close to God. If the act of flagellation is a means of penance does that in itself assume it is a means to bring one closer to God ? There is something about that statement that doesn’t sit right with me. What was his intention ? I guess atonement / penance would bring one closer to God but I cannot imagine that the reason JP II performed this penance was because he was not close enough to God but perhaps that he felt unworthy or repentant. Does this make any sense ? Did anyone ever ask why he did it, what were his reasons for performing it ? The title as it stands just leads me to think that JP II would not have felt close to God without flagellating himself. And somehow, I just can’t seem to get my brain around that. Any help ?

pax et bonum
Joan
 
here is a link to the article on Zenit- remember the media will take things out of context and twist them, what better way to discourage Catholics than to twist what the actual situation is? here is a portion of their article-
catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=35324
The details in the book that grabbed international attention are regarding the Holy Father’s practices of mortification, including flagellation and sleeping on the floor.
Cardinal Saraiva Martins, however, highlighted the depth of the Pontiff’s prayer. He confessed how overwhelmed he was by the profundity of the Pope’s recollection when he invited someone to dine and the visit began with a silent prayer in the private chapel.
“He was as though absorbed in God,” the cardinal said. “He was a man of God and his intense prayer was a true evangelization.”
The prelate also pointed out the Pope’s profound devotion to Mary and mentioned the “joy,” the “happiness” that John Paul II felt in the year 2000, after the beatification of the shepherds of Fatima, Francisco and Jacinta Marto, on May 13.
A witness stated that when asked, “Do you see the Virgin?” the Pope answered, “No, but I hear her.” Another witness, though, said John Paul II confided that he “saw” her.
The book notes that the Holy Father had a sweet tooth and has other insights into the Pope’s personality: He once answered a religious who expressed her “concern” for “Your Holiness”: “I am also concerned about my holiness!”
Monsignor Oder highlighted the Pope’s “humanity” and his ability to perceive in all persons “the imprint of God.”
And Cardinal Saraiva Martins noted that humanity and holiness are one thing: The more holy one is, the more “human” one is.
I guess my issue after reading comments, what we are hearing from the secular media is emphasized to destroy the faith. As it has been mentioned before, over the centuries this has been a common practice- who has made the statement ‘to feel closer to God’? is it secular? What I have read on it was this was an act of penance which the world is clueless on…
 
here is a link to the article on Zenit- remember the media will take things out of context and twist them, what better way to discourage Catholics than to twist what the actual situation is? here is a portion of their article-
catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=35324

I guess my issue after reading comments, what we are hearing from the secular media is emphasized to destroy the faith. As it has been mentioned before, over the centuries this has been a common practice- who has made the statement ‘to feel closer to God’? is it secular? What I have read on it was this was an act of penance which the world is clueless on…
Thanks for the Zenit link and I would have to agree with you that it seems the secular media , in their inflated (?) reference, only wishes to cause shock and skepticism whereas faithful Catholics recognize true devotion of His Holiness to his Lord and Savior. Thanks for sharing.
pax et bonum
Joan
 
This self torture gives me the creeps. CCC para. 364 “… man may not despise his bodily life. Rather he is obliged to regard his body as good and to hold it in honor…”.
Yeh, self torture gives me the creeps, too. Fortunately, that’s not what John Paul II, the Buddha, St. Francis, Gandhi, and Jesus were doing when they practiced self mortification. Indeed, that’s not what I’m doing when I fast during Lent. Now, if you really want to see self torture, just go to any city park on a Saturday afternoon and look at all those joggers! That’ll give you the creeps!
 
I beat myself daily and I never really feel that much closer. Just guilty. A little sticky. Then I do it again.
 
I would whip it out to if I had sinned like that. It is so sad that people act this way. I could whip up some delicious tube-steak with a little mayo…MMMM…MMMM…GOOOD:)
 
I’m not sure why this information about JPII has gone public. It is being used to detract from him and from the faith.

If JPII wanted this to be know, then I think he could have brought it up somehow, or even showed everybody what he did.

I’m sure he scratched himself, touched himself, passed gas, and all the rest. I’m not sure that we need to dwell on those things or what he did with his belt. This is the pornography of the faith.
 
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