Pope suggests Trump: not Christian

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The pope is politically astute. I think he knows what he is saying.
 
While I don’t necessarily disagree with the Pope, I am wondering why he singled out Trump. Honestly, supporting the wholesale, widespread slaughter of innocent babies is definitely NOT CHRISTIAN, but to my knowledge I have never heard him call out a single Democratic candidate on that especially the so called Catholic ones.
 
It’s amazing to hear the Pope say someone is not a Christian while our own pro-abortion politicians can openly and publicly receive the Eucharist. However this is received in the catholic world, Americans will not appreciate what the Pope said. This Will probably help trump.
 
Matthew 7:21….”It is not anyone who says to me,”Lord, Lord,” who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven.”

Being a Christian is more than just a profession of Jesus as Lord. That is a Protestant pov.
 
ringil said:
cnn.com/2016/02/18/politics/pope-francis-trump-christian-wall/index.html

They Pope renounces the idea of a wall at the US/Mexico border.

From Pope Francis:

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the gospel,”
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If the report and translation are accurate (big IF), this is one of the rare occasions I must side with Trump rather than Pope Francis. I don’t think it’s a good idea to question another person’s faith is part of Trump’s response to what the Pope said. But we are all human and we make mistakes, the Pope probably much less so than the rest of us.
 
queenofheartscv said:
It’s amazing to hear the Pope say someone is not a Christian while our own pro-abortion politicians can openly and publicly receive the Eucharist. However this is received in the catholic world, Americans will not appreciate what the Pope said. This Will probably help trump.
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I don’t it will hurt or help Trump. He is wearing a strange form of Teflon.
 
meltzerboy said:
If the report and translation are accurate (big IF), this is one of the rare occasions I must side with Trump rather than Pope Francis. I don’t think it’s a good idea to question another person’s faith is part of Trump’s response to what the Pope said. But we are all human and we make mistakes, the Pope probably much less so than the rest of us.
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If the Vicar of Christ cannot say these things, then no person can.
 
turtle18 said:
While I don’t necessarily disagree with the Pope, I am wondering why he singled out Trump. Honestly, supporting the wholesale, widespread slaughter of innocent babies is definitely NOT CHRISTIAN, but to my knowledge I have never heard him call out a single Democratic candidate on that especially the so called Catholic ones.
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A number of days ago Trump made comments on the Pope’s trip to Mexico and accusing the Holy Father of being political. I assume the Holy Father can travel where he sees fit, the trip wasn’t to the US, and it wasn’t any business of Mr Trump to comment, criticize, or accuse.

The Holy Father I understand was asked specifically about Trump.
 
I have long thought that Trump could not be a Christian, because his anti-christian utterances. Most of his rhetoric is anti-christian to me.

Now the Pope has confirmed this.
 
ARSpade said:
Who am I to judge?
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Yes, and in that case, as anyone who researched the subject knows, spoke to the notion that if a gay person is trying with all his heart to follow Christ, who is the Pope to judge that struggle and journey?

In other words, if a person has sin X that cannot seem to stop, but they decide they will make a daily struggle against that sin, then that person should not receive harsh judgment because they are carrying their cross every single day.
 
Job #1 for the Pope is to teach the Gospel, and that he is doing.

In my humble opinion, these comments by the Holy Father should be understood in the context of comments made by Trump regarding the Holy Father’s visit to Mexico that accused the Pope of being political. I think the Pope’s point is that he is teaching the Gospel, and Trump’s viewpoint on immigrants is in opposition to the Gospel.
 
Path_Finder said:
There is a wall around the Vatican, 40 feet high.

Perhaps other issues can be addressed as well.

“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”
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I don’t think the wall surrounding the Vatican is to avoid people. Remember the Vatican if you have an birds eye view, it appears as arms open. It’s welcoming people, not pushing them out.
 
Is it possible that the Holy Spirit is trying to send Trump a message? Trump is already in a position of great influence and power with his businesses. If he becomes President, that will be even greater.

I must confess, I do wish the Church and the Pope would speak out against abortion in such strong terms.
 
eamonnroma said:
I have long thought that Trump could not be a Christian, because his anti-christian utterances. Most of his rhetoric is anti-christian to me.

Now the Pope has confirmed this.
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Trump is not a religious man, but if he says he is Christian (Presbyterian), that’s good enough for me. I do NOT support Trump’s policies, including the wall he wants to build, but at the same time, I believe his faith should not be questioned.
 
irishpatrick said:
Matthew 7:21….”It is not anyone who says to me,”Lord, Lord,” who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven.”

Being a Christian is more than just a profession of Jesus as Lord. That is a Protestant pov.
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Exactly. That’s a Protestant perspective. And might I add that in Protestant circles, professing Jesus as Lord is generally accompanied by asking God in Christ for forgiveness of sins.

What was it that Trump said about his own need to ask for God’s forgiveness?
 
Mr. Trump I’m sure, makes employment available to many, perhaps thousands around the world.

That seems to be helpful and Christian.

I wonder how many jobs others have created.

Sometimes actions speak louder than words.
 
eamonnroma said:
I have long thought that Trump could not be a Christian, because his anti-christian utterances. Most of his rhetoric is anti-christian to me.

Now the Pope has confirmed this.
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I remember when trump tried quoting scripture and said two Corinthians.
 
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