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queenofheartscv
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you know what, since Trump is not the Pope, hardly anybody expects him to be infallible in his words.
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irishpatrick
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Wow–now you are assuming and thinking for the Pope?the Pope knows very well he’s being asked about Trump, so he can’t just throw in the "if"s and expect people to think he’s not talking about Trump.
He admitted he did not know enough, so he was giving him (Trump) the benefit of the doubt.
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FollowChrist34
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The Pope met with the Little Sisters of the Poor; I wonder if Trump will - given his take on Planned Parenthood I doubt it. Along those lines, I am not sure I will notice much of a shift in the anti-Catholic wind already blowing pretty strong these last eight years out of the White House…Ta-da.
I really dislike guessing correctly here.
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queenofheartscv
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I’m not assuming for the Pope, but he should know how his words are going to come off in people’s ears.Wow–not you are assuming and thinking for the Pope?
He admitted he did not know enough, so he was giving him (Trump) the benefit of the doubt.
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JimR-OCDS
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I guess you want to read into what the Pope said, rather than what he actually said.the Pope knows very well he’s being asked about Trump, so he can’t just throw in the "if"s and expect people to think he’s not talking about Trump.
If the man made the statement, means he doesn’t know whether he made the statement or not, but its what the reporter quoted to the Pope.
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Danny33
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Does not Scripture say not to judge what is in a man’s heart.And then, a person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the gospel.
As far as what you said about whether I would advise to vote or not to vote, I am not going to get involved in that.
I say only that this man is not Christian if he said things like that. We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt.
I believe in a wall of some sort.
The US cannot absorb all the world’s refugees. Health care, jobs, and all are being degraded.
Its absurd to argue open borders IMO.
Trump supports legal immigration. he gets in trouble for that as he wants it increased.
The Pope should not question anyone individual’s Christianity unless he is willing to question others. Pope Francis has not and that is why there is such a backlash.
It seems a very selective questioning . He should never have gone there. Hope the Vatican Press office issues a clarification.
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gracepoole
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You can take it up with Ann Coulter.An opinion piece is hardly proof of guessing correctly. Especially from WaPo.
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irishpatrick
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NO–the median, and Trump, should take his words in full context. They have a duty to do so.I’m not assuming for the Pope, but he should know how his words are going to come off in people’s ears.
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Good_Tidings
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I’m sure the Donald will clear this all up tonight on CNN. He will participate in a town hall and I’m sure someone is going to bring this up. Anyone want to predict what he will say?
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Thorolfr
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I still can’t help wondering why Trump would make his “disgraceful” remark about the Pope. To me it would seem politically stupid of Trump to pick some sort of fight with the Pope since he risks alienating Catholic voters. He could have just refused to comment. But I would never presume that Trump is stupid and he could be intending to stoke anti-Catholic prejudice to defeat his opponents.An opinion piece is hardly proof of guessing correctly. Especially from WaPo.
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JimR-OCDS
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Jesus was misquoted by the false witnesses at his trial.I’m not assuming for the Pope, but he should know how his words are going to come off in people’s ears.
Should Jesus have remained silent because he knew people would misrepresent what he actually said ?
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Franze
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In the cathecism of the Catholic Church defending from an invasion is licit, and US like Spain, Hungary, Germany, Italy etc… that are menaced from these invasions have to defend themselves. The corruption isn´t an excuse for emigrating to US.
And in Europe, Soros, Merkel and other monsters want to destroy Europe, islamize the continent and create a non white continent.
And Pope Francis don´t say anything about that.
And in Europe, Soros, Merkel and other monsters want to destroy Europe, islamize the continent and create a non white continent.
And Pope Francis don´t say anything about that.
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irishpatrick
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Trump knew what the Pope said, and he used part of it to advance his campaign.Does not Scripture say not to judge what is in a man’s heart.
I believe in a wall of some sort.
The US cannot absorb all the world’s refugees. Health care, jobs, and all are being degraded.
Its absurd to argue open borders IMO.
Trump supports legal immigration. he gets in trouble for that as he wants it increased.
The Pope should not question anyone individual’s Christianity unless he is willing to question others. Pope Francis has not and that is why there is such a backlash.
It seems a very selective questioning . He should never have gone there. Hope the Vatican Press office issues a clarification.
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Maximilan_Kolbe
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Yeah, it is a slightly different tone than the one taken about homosexuals who may be seeking Christ. Who are we to judge? Yet, in this question, it presumes impure motives and deems that worthy of castigation. Not sure why both aren’t given the benefit of seeking Christ.Does not Scripture say not to judge what is in a man’s heart.
I believe in a wall of some sort.
The US cannot absorb all the world’s refugees. Health care, jobs, and all are being degraded.
Its absurd to argue open borders IMO.
Trump supports legal immigration. he gets in trouble for that as he wants it increased.
The Pope should not question anyone individual’s Christianity unless he is willing to question others. Pope Francis has not and that is why there is such a backlash.
It seems a very selective questioning . He should never have gone there. Hope the Vatican Press office issues a clarification.
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FollowChrist34
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Never overthink Trump. Believe me, it’s easier than it sounds. He is no more anti-Catholic than he is anti-Bush or anti-Mexican or anti-female or anti-Fox…or anti…you get the idea. It simply doesn’t matter what he says or does - bottom line. The only method to the madness is to look mad and strong, in short, a winner. Super non-establishment.I still can’t help wondering why Trump would make his “disgraceful” remark about the Pope. To me it would seem politically stupid of Trump to pick some sort of fight with the Pope since he risks alienating Catholic voters. He could have just refused to comment. But I would never presume that Trump is stupid and he could be intending to stoke anti-Catholic prejudice to defeat his opponents.
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Maximilan_Kolbe
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Again, how would this alienate Catholics most of whose own allegiance’s to the Papacy stops at their own desires anyway?I still can’t help wondering why Trump would make his “disgraceful” remark about the Pope. To me it would seem politically stupid of Trump to pick some sort of fight with the Pope since he risks alienating Catholic voters. He could have just refused to comment. But I would never presume that Trump is stupid and he could be intending to stoke anti-Catholic prejudice to defeat his opponents.
As mentioned, it could draw voters from the Evangelical community. I think ultimately, it simply makes Trump look generally boorish again, demographics aside. But he’ll stop if it hurts him I suspect, and continue if it helps.
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Emperor_Markus
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Most likely this is the media lying about the Pope again. The media has done nothing but twist Pope Francis’ words and take them out of context. It’s very sad.
Trump is not necessarily in the wrong because he was misinformed about what the Pope actually said. I hope this can be resolved soon.
Trump is not necessarily in the wrong because he was misinformed about what the Pope actually said. I hope this can be resolved soon.
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queenofheartscv
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People can focus on the context of this specific exchange but they can also evaluate the Pope’s words in the context of his overall expressions on the issue. The impression the Pope has given on the issue of immigration is that we must take care of illegals and if we don’t we lack compassion. Maybe that’s not true, but I think many will look at the Pope’s words with that in mind.
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Jeanne_S
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The Pope’s comments have been taken out of context.Now,having said that,can you please explain to me why a wall protecting our borders is unChristian?We are a sovereign nation with laws and rules for entering this country as a non citizen.Anyone,who follows the rules is welcome.Building a wall doesn’t change that.No, I think the pope has the ultimate authority. Good try, though.
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Path_Finder
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Considering that no back up was given to the assertion that Rush Limbaugh said, according to this poster, that Pope Francis wanted to change the USA into a Socialist nation; apparently, with no proof, nada, zilch, I will take this as another detracting statement off-topic to this thread per putting down a conservative.You can take it up with Ann Coulter.
I mean, we all make statements that are proven untrue possibly through our own misunderstanding, but that one was a beauty.
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