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He wasn’t. And none of us should forget, the Democrats give or did give out the Margaret Sanger award in 2015, time to stop denying they are tied into White Supremacism as much as anyone.
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I’ve read that the state police are decline the request to come and police Portland. They say a big problem for the city of Portland is the Democrat DA not prosecuting rioters and looters. The police will arrest people that are rioting but the DA soon lets them go.
A bit on that can be read here:
www.kptv.com
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PORTLAND, OR (KPTV) – Law enforcement agencies around the state of Oregon say they will not be complying with a call from Governor Kate Brown to assist PPB with nightly protests in Portland.
Governor Brown released a statement Sunday, specifically calling on the Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office, Washington County Sheriff’s Office and Gresham Police Department to help bring an end to nightly violence in Portland. She called it a plan for a unified law enforcement presence in the city.
“This is routine mutual aid agreements that have happened over the years, possibly decades in this region,” Brown said. “And we think that it’s really important at this point in time for the region to come together and help end the violence in the streets of Portland.”
She said it’s something her office had been working on for a while.
“We had been working on this plan for a number of days. I had reached out to a number of local elected officials, but this is a comprehensive, unified law enforcement approach,” she said.
Her plan also stated that the City of Portland would take on the cost of bringing in officers from other agencies and that Mayor Ted Wheeler would find a way to pay for it.
But, now those law enforcement agencies called on by the governor say they are not going.
Both the Washington County sheriff and Clackamas County sheriff said they were not notified of this plan before it was released by Governor Brown.
In a statement, Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts wrote:
“Had Governor Brown discussed her plan with my office, I would have told her it’s about changing policy not adding resources. Increasing law enforcement resources in Portland will not solve the nightly violence and now, murder. The only way to make Portland safe again, is to support a policy that holds offenders accountable for their destruction and violence.”
He went on to say that for this to happen, the district attorney needs to prosecute arrested protesters.
Washington County Sheriff Pat Garrett released a similar statement, saying:…
A bit on that can be read here:
Law enforcement agencies refuse to send deputies into Portland
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PORTLAND, OR (KPTV) – Law enforcement agencies around the state of Oregon say they will not be complying with a call from Governor Kate Brown to assist PPB with nightly protests in Portland.
Governor Brown released a statement Sunday, specifically calling on the Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office, Washington County Sheriff’s Office and Gresham Police Department to help bring an end to nightly violence in Portland. She called it a plan for a unified law enforcement presence in the city.
“This is routine mutual aid agreements that have happened over the years, possibly decades in this region,” Brown said. “And we think that it’s really important at this point in time for the region to come together and help end the violence in the streets of Portland.”
She said it’s something her office had been working on for a while.
“We had been working on this plan for a number of days. I had reached out to a number of local elected officials, but this is a comprehensive, unified law enforcement approach,” she said.
Her plan also stated that the City of Portland would take on the cost of bringing in officers from other agencies and that Mayor Ted Wheeler would find a way to pay for it.
But, now those law enforcement agencies called on by the governor say they are not going.
Both the Washington County sheriff and Clackamas County sheriff said they were not notified of this plan before it was released by Governor Brown.
In a statement, Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts wrote:
“Had Governor Brown discussed her plan with my office, I would have told her it’s about changing policy not adding resources. Increasing law enforcement resources in Portland will not solve the nightly violence and now, murder. The only way to make Portland safe again, is to support a policy that holds offenders accountable for their destruction and violence.”
He went on to say that for this to happen, the district attorney needs to prosecute arrested protesters.
Washington County Sheriff Pat Garrett released a similar statement, saying:…
LeafByNiggle
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The indications are that he was part of a white supremacist group.LeafByNiggle:
He wasn’t.
Time to clarify this Margaret Sanger tie to PP and abortion…again:
Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia
From the article:
About Margaret Sanger:
So if you are going claim that PP has carried Margaret Sanger’s eugenics views into the organization, you have to explain why they did not carry her anti-abortion views too. The fact is the organization as it exists today has almost nothing to do with Margaret Sanger or her views. There. Is that a little clearer?
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LeafByNiggle . . .
So cold blooded murder is now equivalent to self-defense huh?
And you are now basing your morality on a political figure.
“Trump”.
So cold blooded murder is now equivalent to self-defense huh?
And you are now basing your morality on a political figure.
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LeafByNiggle . . .
Here it is again . . .
It was a cold-blooded murder.
Do you have new information to believe Danielson was killed in self-defense in a life and death encounter?
Why keep making excuses (“perhaps the one who shot Aaron Danielson was defending himself from being maced”) for the perpetrator of wanton violence when there is no such evidence?
Well now you are contradicting what you said earlier.
Here it is again . . .
The killer of Danielson is not even known (yet as far as I know) and the main witness says there was not a self-defense aspect.
It was a cold-blooded murder.
Do you have new information to believe Danielson was killed in self-defense in a life and death encounter?
Why keep making excuses (“perhaps the one who shot Aaron Danielson was defending himself from being maced”) for the perpetrator of wanton violence when there is no such evidence?
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LeafByNiggle . . .
There is defense of the facts though.
I saw part of the video and
everything his lawyer says is consistent with what I saw.
If this changes, I may too depending upon what new information surfaces.
But I refrained from saying anything or posting any links about Rittenhouse on purpose, until more information was available.
And now there is more information available.
You saw nothing on the Danielson murder because there is nothing in the way of video (so far).
And the only eye-witness account that I am aware of states the exact situation of just what I have posted.
There is no “excuses”.
There is defense of the facts though.
I saw part of the video and
everything his lawyer says is consistent with what I saw.
If this changes, I may too depending upon what new information surfaces.
But I refrained from saying anything or posting any links about Rittenhouse on purpose, until more information was available.
And now there is more information available.
You saw nothing on the Danielson murder because there is nothing in the way of video (so far).
And the only eye-witness account that I am aware of states the exact situation of just what I have posted.
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Then why is he still charged with murder?
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LeafByNiggle . . .
Right now we have a situation in Portland where the violent leftists have taken a large portion of control away from the people by force, their politicians have been advocating and enabling this, their judges and government attornys likewise by letting these guys out on the streets, Biden has been encoyraging this even allowing staff to pay for bail of rioters elsewhere when even leftists jail them, and an innocent man has been murdered in cold-blood.
And no amount of deflection will remove those facts.
You go to a thread talking about it and tag me on it and maybe I will go there.
Right now we have a situation in Portland where the violent leftists have taken a large portion of control away from the people by force, their politicians have been advocating and enabling this, their judges and government attornys likewise by letting these guys out on the streets, Biden has been encoyraging this even allowing staff to pay for bail of rioters elsewhere when even leftists jail them, and an innocent man has been murdered in cold-blood.
And no amount of deflection will remove those facts.
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LeafByNiggle
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They are angry at the death of George Floyd and the shooting of Jacob Blake. You often get such protests in the wake of injustice. Remember Harper’s Ferry, 1959?
Trump talking point, and untrue.
Which guys? The protesters, or those engaged in violence?
Untrue. Not for violent rioters.
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There’s video of him trying to mace the shooter before he got shot. Guy brought pepper spray to a gun fight, something not generally advisable.
It’s kind of funny that the right is trying to run with the “they were hunting Trump supporters” angle when the only guy who got shot was the one who attacked the armed guy.
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WingedHussar
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Either more Trump supporters will be shot in cold blood or will exercise their right to self-defense like Kyle Rittenhouse. Seems to be the lesson learned here. I think at this point, it is fair to say that we are in a low grade civil war.
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LeafByNiggle . . .
It is not OK.
The white supremicists used exactly the same type of “reasoning” to hurt innocent black Americans.
They would find an injustice perpetrated by one (or even manufactured), then prejudicially blame ALL black Americans.
Their anger is misplaced, and long ago this stopped being about George Floyd
(who MAY have died from his own drug overdose -
although Derek Chauvin [a guy you may think should still have voting ability]
was clearly committing a criminal act – which criminal act the courts will need to figure out – against George Floyd as well. The courts can now sort out this issue).
You don’t get to murder innocent people, loot from innocent people, burn innocent people’s property, beat innocent people up.
It is not OK.
The white supremicists used exactly the same type of “reasoning” to hurt innocent black Americans.
They would find an injustice perpetrated by one (or even manufactured), then prejudicially blame ALL black Americans.
Their anger is misplaced, and long ago this stopped being about George Floyd
(who MAY have died from his own drug overdose -
although Derek Chauvin [a guy you may think should still have voting ability]
was clearly committing a criminal act – which criminal act the courts will need to figure out – against George Floyd as well. The courts can now sort out this issue).
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Hence widespread anti-police protests.
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They do? They say they are angry at the injustice suffered at the hands of blacks? That would be “using the same reasoning.”
Then are you claiming that the current call for justice for the marginalized is just a made-up charge with no basis in fact?
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Planned Parenthood gets full democratic support, that should be clear to everyone, they perform abortions, that should be clear. And much can be written about Sanger in a number of ways.
Remove statues of Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood founder tied to eugenics and racism
How a woman who advocated for selective breeding of her fellow citizens came to be memorialized with those who built a country is hard to understand.
www.usatoday.com
In no way will I support enablers of abortions such as the Democrats. Sanger’s legacy is murky. Nor racism.
From the article:
But if Sanger was against abortion, we know the Democrats are for abortion and 1/3rd of abortions are of African Americans. Sounds pretty racist.
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Cathoholic . . . .
renaming “rioting” concerning
murder against innocent people,
looting from innocent people,
burning innocent people’s property, and
beating innocent people up . . .
. . . as “protests”.
Don’t fall for it.
Balto1 (from here) . . . .
- Murder of innocent people
- Loot from innocent people
- Burn innocent people’s property
- Beat innocent people up
renaming “rioting” concerning
murder against innocent people,
looting from innocent people,
burning innocent people’s property, and
beating innocent people up . . .
. . . as “protests”.
Don’t fall for it.
Balto1 (from here) . . . .
Bold mine.
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No, there is no proof.
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Thanks for that information Victoria33.
( I did not bother to look it up because it is irrelevant to Leaf’s argument. It is not OK to murder racist people of ANY color because they are racists.
I was surprised Leaf used that excuse.
But it is good to know the victim was NOT involved in racism even if it is irrelevant to Leaf’s argument.)
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