Praising Trump on Catholic Answers Radio

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Aquinas11 said:
A speech with countless references to “I”…proved he’s a narcissist.
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🤨 Using I-statements doesn’t not make one a narcissist especially when giving a public account of one’s own actions.
 
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Things like how Obama did not lash out at the Birthers and when Bin Laden was killed he came to a podium, stated the facts, took no questions, and he really never mentioned it again
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A speech with countless references to “I”…proved he’s a narcissist.

“Tonight, I can report . . .And so, shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta . . . I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden . . . I met repeatedly with my national security team . . . I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action. . . . Today, at my direction . . . I’ve made clear . . . Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear . . . Tonight, I called President Zardari . . . and my team has also spoken . . .These efforts weigh on me every time I , as commander-in-chief . . . Finally, let me say to the families . . . I know that it has, at times, frayed . . .”
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While I do think he has narcissistic characteristics, I think this example is a stretch.

Except at campaign rallies, Trump typically reads from a teleprompter the speech his speechwriters give him. It’s obvious that he doesn’t practice his written speeches very often. So I think these examples are more a result of his speechwriters than anything else.
 
What exactly was the praising of Trump that was going on?

I ask because I remember listening to an episode of Catholic Answers Radio during the 2016 election and they talked about how they couldn’t really say much of anything about the candidates without running afoul of some laws (I can’t remember the specifics, something about how if they got directly into politics some of the radio stations they played on wouldn’t qualify for something important). It would thus seem odd to be doing direct praise of Trump, unless something has changed in the interim.
 
PJH_74 said:
  • A grandiose sense of self-importance
  • Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
  • Belief that one is special and can only be understood by or associate with special people or institutions
  • A need for excessive admiration
  • A sense of entitlement (to special treatment)
  • Exploitation of others
  • A lack of empathy
  • Envy of others or the belief that one is the object of envy
  • Arrogant, haughty behavior or attitudes
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That also fits Hillary Clinton to a Tee. I feel like most politicians fit all of those except they may not all feel the need for excessive admiration. But let’s face it, most career politicians really do think that they are better and more special than everyone else!
 
kainosktisis said:
The reality is that the Church takes stands on various things - for moral reasons. If they disagree with certain political ideologies, it’s because morally the politics fails, & the Church is obliged to speak out about it. People have their own ideas about morality, & these impact how they see the world, & this, in turn, impacts their politics. Churches are no different. They are bodies of believers.
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Exactly. It’s not the Church’s fault that so many people conflate moral issues with political ones these days. Most current hot- button political issues are actually moral issues that everyone should agree on!
 
Ummmm, so basically, Trump like every other human ever, is to be praised and admired for his good qualities, and not as much for any flaws?

Not sure why we have to spell these things out with Trump. With President Obama, even when folks disagreed with him, they make statements like “he seems to be a good husband and father.” I rarely hear positives coming from those who disagree with President Trump.
 
I find it odd that people want to harp on Trump due to his personal flaws, but take issue at a devout Catholic having a problem with George Soros. If there is a greater enemy of the Catholic Church on earth than that man, I have not seen him. Let’s at least be consistent folks, even if we don’t agree who the bad guys really are.
 
Dr_Meinheimer said:
I find it odd that people want to harp on Trump due to his personal flaws, but take issue at a devout Catholic having a problem with George Soros.
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I don’t think (name removed by moderator) harped onTrump’s flaws. He just didn’t want to hear politics on Catholic radio.
 
He also had no issue given a tremendous Rose Garden welcome to a man who was discovered to be a turncoat who got a number of brave men killed, Brad Bergdahl.
 
It would be good but those pesky checks to pay off porn stars and others just keep popping up out of nowhere.
 
PJH_74 said:
Trump knew a photo op when he saw one and will add this one to his brag bag, but again he never accomplished anything substantive.
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This showmanship is why I know that the government does not have a crashed UFO or bodies of extraterrestrials stored away in a secret bunker.
 
Perhaps not, but Trump’s way more pro-life than Hillary Clinton.
 
Dougbro1 said:
Perhaps not, but Trump’s way more pro-life than Hillary Clinton.
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Mrs Clinton is not running for political office. Her views as a private citizen have exactly the same weight as mine do.
 
She was, though. What I’m trying to say is Trump’s a good deal more pro-life than most of the Democrat candidates. I wasn’t discussing the 2020 elections.
 
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The past is done. Mr Trump won. No need to keep living in the past.
 
Guess so. I just see people complain about Trump, but then consider what would have happened if Clinton won (which often makes me shudder). I guess, as C.S. Lewis put it, “Nobody is ever told what would have happened.” I’m not even American anyway, so I guess I’m just putting my own ten cents in.
 
“Via satellite “ being the critical phrase here. He’s not the first sitting president to address the March.
 
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