Prayer for the Universal Indult

[Genesis315]

O Mary, Mother of the Liturgy, please intercede with your Son that He may direct His Vicar to shape the Roman Church’s liturgical law in the manner most pleasing to His Eucharistic Heart. Whatever His will may be, pray that it be done. Amen.

Sts. Peter and Paul, pray for us.
St. Victor I, pray for us.
St. Gregory the Great, pray for us.
St. Pius V, pray for us.
St. Joseph Mary Tomasi, pray for us.

 

[cyberwolf001]

O Mary, Mother of the Liturgy, please intercede with your Son that He may direct His Vicar to shape the Roman Church’s liturgical law in the manner most pleasing to His Eucharistic Heart. Whatever His will may be, pray that it be done. Amen.

Sts. Peter and Paul, pray for us.
St. Victor I, pray for us.
St. Gregory the Great, pray for us.
St. Pius V, pray for us.
St. Joseph Mary Tomasi, pray for us.

Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the our of our death. Amen.

St. Patrick pray for us.
St. Michael pray for us.
St. Benedict pray for us.
St. Brigid pray for us.
St. Josemaria pray for us.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

O Mary, Mother of the Liturgy, please intercede with your Son that He may direct His Vicar to shape the Roman Church’s liturgical law in the manner most pleasing to His Eucharistic Heart. Whatever His will may be, pray that it be done. Amen.

Sts. Peter and Paul, pray for us.
St. Victor I, pray for us.
St. Gregory the Great, pray for us.
St. Pius V, pray for us.
St. Joseph Mary Tomasi, pray for us.

Amen.

 

[thecoach]

The Mass in Latin was and is the highest form of worship in the Western Church.

Over nearly two thousand years, prayers, hymns, Gregorian and Polyphonic chant were developed - by people who spoke several languages - all to instill a sense of beauty and awe in worship of Our Lord.

People who do not “want a return of Latin” have no idea how much Latin they use in everyday English. Of course, they are unaware of history - the Norman invasion of England in 1066 had the consequence of doubling in size the English vocabulary.

I think that, in the entire world, there are few people who complain about hearing or using a non-English language more than Americans.

your own words confuse your point. You defend the Latin, yet say, "by people who spoke several languages ". And two thousand years ago, they were still meeting in homes, and I doubt they were all saying the primitive liturgy in Latin. WHy would you say it is the highest form of worship? Says who? Logically, it should be Aramaic,spoken by His Son.
You want to say that the old rite had a reverent sense of mystery, fine, But statements that one form of worship, because of its words and language, are just illogical and border on superstition. As it states in the Catechism: “2111 Superstition is the deviation of religious feeling and of the practices this feeling imposes. It can even affect the worship we offer the true God, e.g., when one attributes an importance in some way magical to certain practices otherwise lawful or necessary. To attribute the efficacy of prayers or of sacramental signs to their mere external performance, apart from the interior dispositions that they demand, is to fall into superstition”.

 

[CathMass]

O Mary, Mother of the Liturgy, please intercede with your Son that He may direct His Vicar to shape the Roman Church’s liturgical law in the manner most pleasing to His Eucharistic Heart. Whatever His will may be, pray that it be done. Amen.

Sts. Peter and Paul, pray for us.
St. Victor I, pray for us.
St. Gregory the Great, pray for us.
St. Pius V, pray for us.
St. Joseph Mary Tomasi, pray for us.

 

[CathMass]

Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the our of our death. Amen.

St. Patrick pray for us.
St. Michael pray for us.
St. Benedict pray for us.
St. Brigid pray for us.
St. Josemaria pray for us.

 

[cyberwolf001]

your own words confuse your point. You defend the Latin, yet say, "by people who spoke several languages ". And two thousand years ago, they were still meeting in homes, and I doubt they were all saying the primitive liturgy in Latin. WHy would you say it is the highest form of worship? Says who? Logically, it should be Aramaic,spoken by His Son.
You want to say that the old rite had a reverent sense of mystery, fine, But statements that one form of worship, because of its words and language, are just illogical and border on superstition. As it states in the Catechism: “2111 Superstition is the deviation of religious feeling and of the practices this feeling imposes. It can even affect the worship we offer the true God, e.g., when one attributes an importance in some way magical to certain practices otherwise lawful or necessary. To attribute the efficacy of prayers or of sacramental signs to their mere external performance, apart from the interior dispositions that they demand, is to fall into superstition”.

Can we please! Not debate in here? :banghead:

 

[thecoach]

Can we please! Not debate in here? :banghead:

yes of course, my apologies. And I do pray that the HOly Spirit enlightens the hierarchy of the Church to inspire them to devise the Eucharistic Liturgy so as to please and Honor Him, and for the salvation of the world. Amen.

Perhaps we should pray the Litany of the Saints for this as well. Maybe we can alll agree to recite it at a certain time or something?

 

[MikeDunphy]

This Tuesday is the Feast of St. Joseph the Workman, added to the calendar in 1955 by Pope Pius XII. It would be a good day to pray this prayer to St. Joseph.

Prayer for the Universal Indult through the intercession of St. Joseph

O Saint Joseph, foster father of Jesus, spouse of our Blessed Mother and patron of the Universal Church, grant us through thy intercession that the Holy Father will soon issue the Motu Proprio which shall permit the universal use of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass according to that venerable rite codified by Pope Pius V. May this Motu Proprio be a means of healing from the painful divisions which have been so evident in our church today. We make our prayer through thy powerful intercession with God and in the holy name of Jesus. Amen

 

[MikeDunphy]

Following the lead of CathMass, I have attempted to compose a prayer for the universal indult. It is “plug and pray”: where it says St. N, you will need to plug in a saint’s name from the last 1500 years who would have worshipped at a traditional Mass, then pray, pray, pray…

Glory to Thee, Father, Son and Holy Spirit,
One God over all the world in every age.

In Thy mercy
grant that Thy servants
may once again freely worship Thee
in the unity of the Mass of Ages,
with St. N,
with St. N,
and with St. N,
whose memory we honor today.

Father in Heaven,
through Christ our Lord, we ask Thee
to pour out the grace of Thy Holy Spirit
on Thy vicar, Pope Benedict XVI,
and on Thy unworthy servants,
to conform our hearts to Thee,
so that, animated by Thy Spirit,
we may serve Thee faithfully in this life
and enter into the joy of Thy kingdom
at the end of our days.

For the Holy Father:
Our Father…
Hail Mary…
Glory be…

 

[Mt_28_19_20]

Of course. Many of us don’t know any Latin, 'cause we’ve never been exposed to it or taught it.

I don’t know Latin. When the Mass or parts of it are said in Latin at the church I attend, I pray in English since I desire to understand what I am saying/praying. How uplifting to have people who do not understand Latin try to pray in Latin? For me, it would be as uplifting as saying the Mass in German or Polish or Greek. Reminds me of what Paul taught about praying in tongues when others did not understand, how they were not edified.

Michael

 

[Mt_28_19_20]

You are going to pray for a return to a Latin liturgy, in English?

Good point, and the reason I cannot in good conscience pray that prayer. I will pray that Mass is celebrated in a way that allows the local community to participate as fully as possible in worshiping our Lord and Savior.

Why not put the bulletin in Latin for a few weeks in the local parishes, and if that works out well and everyone understands what is going, then perhaps we’ll have an idea of how wise having the Mass in Latin will be. Maybe even start with some Latin instructions in the weekly bulletin to prepare parishoneers.

Michael