Praying in Latin -- NEW SITE!

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babochka said:
I dare say the 700,000 number is not just improbable, but impossible.
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You’re right. 700,000 was a typo. My mistake. It was 70,000.

Sources:

National Catholic Register

Catholic News Agency

Telegraph News

National Catholic Reporter

Crux Now

Many other sources available online.

The Times reported he has performed 100,000 exorcisms.

Thank you for pointing this out and correcting the typo for me.

Of course, the point being he has performed so many exorcisms that this man is one of the greatest experts on the topic and knows what works.

Interestingly, it has been pointed out that it is not Latin in itself that the devil hates. It is prayers in Latin.
 
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twf said:
of course the Roman Church still uses the sacred language of Greek as well
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Yes, Greek is one of the three sacred languages on the Cross. But popes and the Church has never said the things they have said about Greek like they have of Latin. The Church’s teachings are clear regarding the reverence that Latin-Rite Catholics are to give to the sacred Latin language. If you haven’t read the above linked papal quotes section, it is eye-opening to say the least! But yes, God bless Greek too!
 
My point simply being that if we were meant to pray ONLY in Latin, the Church wouldn’t have preserved Greek in the Mass, yet She did.
 
I got no problem with some Greek too. It’s sacred. I would certainly say Greek is an elevated sacred language as well. It has just never been prescribed explicitly by the Roman Church other than a couple spots in the liturgy when it comes up. I think the fact that there is some Greek in the Latin Rite speaks to the unity and universality of the Catholic Church, containing both east and west in union with Peter.
 
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prayinglatin said:
Latin is not a religion, but it is the language used by the one holy Catholic Church,
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Did not the early Catholic Church in Greece use the Greek Language and the Russian Church use the Church slavonic? Anyway, yes, I do like praying in Latin, except that I generally use the classical Latin and not the church Latin. For example, in the classical Latin principio is pronounced with a hard c like a k. Is it OK to pray using the classical latin? The speaker uses only the church pronunciation.
In any case, I would like to see all the prayers in Greek and in Church slavonic. After all, Plato, Aristotle, Euclid, Herodotus, Archimedes and Homer wrote in Greek.
 
AlNg said:
After all, Plato, Aristotle, Euclid, Herodotus, Archimedes and Homer wrote in Greek.
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But Virgil, Newton, Galileo, Kepler, and St Thomas More wrote in Latin. 😉
 
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ProVobis said:
But Virgil, Newton, Galileo, and St Thomas More wrote in Latin
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I found the Latin in Virgil more difficult than Caesar or Cicero. In any case, Church prayers in Latin are a whole lot easier than any of the three: Virgil, Caesar or Cicero. I am getting lazy now and I read the Gallic wars or the Orations or philosophy of Cicero with a side by side translation.
 
Thanks to the Internet a lot of those are available to be read by anyone now. And a lot of Latin writing hasn’t been yet translated I understand.
 
The YouTube header says “Ave Maria Gregorian” but this is not Gregorian chant, it is Schubert’s version.

There are two Gregorian versions, an Alleluia verse and better known, an offertory, as well as a Neo-Gregorian offertory.

Here is the Gregorian offertory:


Or a choral version by the monks of Clear Creek (same congregation as my abbey!):


I much prefer the Gregorian version but the Schubert version is certainly beautiful in its own genre, and is probably much better known.
 
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I’m trying to figure out how to separate some Latin words into syllables, but it is tough since I don’t know how to pronounce them.
 
VanitasVanitatum said:
I’m trying to figure out how to separate some Latin words into syllables, but it is tough since I don’t know how to pronounce them.
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Did you check out the prayinglatin site above and its pronunciation page? Also the prayer book page has lots of audio of various prayers that will help with learning the pronunciations.

Any particular words you are finding difficult or just in general?
 
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I was using some words from Isaiah so I don’t think it would be on your site.
 
Right, the pronunciation page should give some good guidelines though. For example from that page:
What Syllable to Accent:

Two syllables:
Accent the first syllable

Three or more syllables:
If the next to the last syllable has a long vowel sound, accent that syllable

If the next to the last syllable has a short vowel sound, accent the syllable before it.
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Would be happy to help if you provide the words too.
 
prayinglatin said:
the next to the last syllable has a long vowel sound, accent that syllable
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We used a text book that actually displayed the long macron. This is important in the third conjugation, also in some of the declensions. For example agricola technically has two different pronunciations depending on its usage.
 
Thank you. We’re homeschooling this year and Latin is one of our subjects. Looking forward to learning these Latin prayers with my student aka daughter.
 
ProVobis said:
We used a text book that actually displayed the long macron.
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Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I am used to praying with my Latin Missal that has all the accent marks on each word, but I did learn how to use the macrons years ago as well. That dictionary site actually shows the macrons on words that have long sounds. I find it very helpful when a word is in question. Also I would suggest trying to find a translation that has the accent marks already included so that you become familiar enough with the words to the extent that they will become second nature. (You may already be there.) For any uncertain words, you can always plug them into that translator. https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/
 
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