"Praying in Tongues"...is it O.K. during Mass ?

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As I understand the whole speaking in tongues thing it boils down to the Holy Spirit actually touching the person involved and speaking through him. They don’t have any memory of it and don’t understand what they are saying. There are people who claim to be able to interpret these things though. I have never heard of any place where the whole congregation would pray together in tongues, and would assume that if it happened it would be bogus.

Just an aside I have attended on the invitation of a friend several of these Pentecostal things and believe me, they do it a lot better than we do.
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
I think that one must look at the track record of a person.
Yes, many people were involved in the Charismatic Community when it was in vogue. Mother Angelica was as well.
However, as will all trends, if it does not become a lifestyle, it is just that, a trend.

I don’t mind at all if someone wants to belong to a Charismatic Community. I do have a problem when people want to make it the norm of a “Catholic Community” when the congregation does not feel it.
If all of us would be kind and consider different tastes in the liturgy, we would not have the infighting. Bring a Charistmatic Mass to any church but leave one “Historically Catholic” Mass there as well. In that way, one can see the needs and wants of the parish, not insist that they must feel Christian while ignoring Catholic tradition.
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i agree with most of what you say here but I think that the charismatic movement is very problematic for several reasons. It think that it is the true expression of hyperemotionalism, where emotions, that are good, ceased to be governed by reason. That is why charismatics go into weird trances, and start mumbling inexplicable statements, and fall on the ground. This is not healthy, and is a distraction from Christ. In fact, I would be weary of demonic influence in the whole situation.
I was personally raised in the Charismatic movement but I am not a charismatic. I saw alot of people “speaking in tongues” and all it really was was the repeating of nonesensical syllabals over and over again. It was not a language in anyway. So, for those in the movement who speak in tongues or get slain in the spirit, I think that they are opening themselves up to some pretty dangerous stuff. However, those that don’t do such things do provide a nice counterbalance to those in the church that are ultra traditional. Perphaps both groups have their place in the church, if for nothing else, to balance eachother out.
 
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Topher:
I would be weary of demonic influence in the whole situation.
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I just read an article interviewing an Exorcist who stated that the devil does not just go after those who are asking him to come in.

Some of the most pious people I know are followers of Medjugorje. I believe the Devil has gotten in there.
 
Private revelations and speaking in “tounges”

Scary thread.
 
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thistle:
My personal view of the gift of speaking in foreign tongues is that it meant that a person would be speaking in a language other than his own so if I only spoke English but get the gift of tongues it would mean I could speak, for example, French or Spanish etc (so I would be understood by people from France or Spain), but certainly not the gibberish that charismatics call tongues. Is that what you also mean or did I read you wrong. Many priests are also highly sceptical.

Also whether this gibberish really is the gift of an unknown language (which I doubt) or is simply gibberish, in either case
** it should never be allowed during a Mass.**
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The "observers " were also keptical on Pentecost …
read Acts 2: 6 through 16, and you will see the same reaction .
But those who were FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT were filled to overflowing.read also 2 Tim. 1: 6, 7, 8

I disagree that it should never be allowed at Mass…
1 Thess. 5: 19 says
"Do not stifle the Spirit. Do not despise prophesies,
Test everything; retain what is good.
Avoid any semblance of evil."

There is prayer in tongues which is "Prompted by The Holy Spirit…"
and there is a foul imitation which is prompted by satan,
which is meant to turn Believers away from this Holy, Awesome Gift.
That is why we are encouraged to "test everything."
If we don’t …
We are liable to call what is Holy “evil”.

Annunciata…
I also have this wonderful Gift from God,
I use it any where I am prompted By the Spirit, …
primarilly during Worship in the Liturgy of the Eucharist,
but I limit it only to “speaking mysteries in the Spirit to God,” (1 Cor. 14: 2)
That is, audible only to God and to me. 😃

No one can stop me since it is The Holy Spirit who prompts me.
and I make sure only He and I can hear my prayer of worship.

The Love of God to you

gusano
 
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gusano:
…There is prayer in tongues which is "Prompted by The Holy Spirit…"
and there is a foul imitation which is prompted by satan,
which is meant to turn Believers away from this Holy, Awesome Gift.
That is why we are encouraged to "test everything."
If we don’t …
We are liable to call what is Holy “evil”.

Annunciata…
I also have this wonderful Gift from God,
I use it any where I am prompted By the Spirit, …
primarilly during Worship in the Liturgy of the Eucharist,
but I limit it only to “speaking mysteries in the Spirit to God,” (1 Cor. 14: 2)
That is, audible only to God and to me. 😃

No one can stop me since it is The Holy Spirit who prompts me.
and I make sure only He and I can hear my prayer of worship.

The Love of God to you

gusano
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God love you too! Uuummm…for those who believe no explanation is necessary…for those who do not…no explanation is possible…😉
 
I heard a pretty funny story that ties in a little to this thread. It seems that some of the more extreme tongue speakers in some churches Protestant and Pentecostal so far, at least I hope we haven’t reached it yet, also engage in snake handling and other extreme forms of devotion. The story goes like this:

A guy was invited to his friends church and in the spirit of ecumenism he went. The service was fine, a lot of hymns, handclapping, tearful testimony and a fire and brimstone sermon. Then the hallelujas started, and the Holy Spirit, I guess, descended on the congregation and people started speaking in tongues. At this point the pastor and the deacons brought out boxes and opened them revealing rattlesnakes. Those speaking in tongues and a few others went and picked up the serpents and soon the whole congregation was involved. The Preacher looked at the visitor and said:

“Come on down Brother, feel the spirit”

the visitor replied

“No thanks Reverend”

The Pastor got a real strange look on his face and said

“Brother, do you mean to stand there and tell me that if the Lord Christ Jesus commanded you to pick up that serpent you’d refuse??”

The visitor replied

" No Reverend, if Christ commanded me to pick it up I sure would. But he didn’t, and I aint gonna" 😃
 
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gusano:
The "observers " were also keptical on Pentecost …
read Acts 2: 6 through 16, and you will see the same reaction .
But those who were FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT were filled to overflowing.read also 2 Tim. 1: 6, 7, 8

gusano
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But weren’t the 11 filled with the Holy Spirit the Apostles?
 
Personally I feel there may be some current evidence (little) of tongues. The majority of events are just individuals caught up in wishful thinking.

I will rethink my humble opinion if enough posters (or perhaps only one) post in tongues and I can understand what they are saying.
 
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THutch04:
I’ve heard it during Mass, but it was at a charismatic Mass, and everyone prayed in tongues at the same time. It wasn’t like one person started doing it in the middle of Mass. It was quite an interesting experience to say the least. Not something that I would necessarily want to go to every Sunday, but I’m glad I got the experience. It was quite different.
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I would like to see where this sort of thing can be defended from the Scriptures, Tradition or the Church Fathers.
 
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MrS:
Personally I feel there may be some current evidence (little) of tongues. The majority of events are just individuals caught up in wishful thinking.

I will rethink my humble opinion if enough posters (or perhaps only one) post in tongues and I can understand what they are saying.
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I could do a prayer in tongues on Babelfish for you, if you like.🙂
 
Gusano,

I honor you for your sincere concern about the appropriateness of using this gift of the Spirit during Mass. Because the focus of the Mass should be on the Word and the Eucharist, anything that might detract from that, or distract others, probably is not suitable. Praying in tongues might fall more under a private devotion or something you do with others in a prayer group. The exception might be if you are at a “charasmatic Mass” and everyone is praying that way, but I don’t know whether or not that’s actually acceptable as part of the rites. I don’t see anything wrong with praying in tongues as part of a visit to the Blessed Sacrament, separate from Mass. You might also ask your priest, if he seems a wise man, what he thinks of people praying in tongues during Mass, maybe there are guidelines in the Rubrics.

As we can see from the variety of interesting responses to your post, simply the idea of “praying in tongues” seems to have many interpretations and associations for people, which shows it’s not a gift to be used lightly. If someone has been given that ability, he also havs to use discernment and sensitivity about how to exercise it.
 
thanks, I thought I was going to be up all night, waiting to “learn something new every day”
 
I always pray in Tongues during Mass. If you were sitting next to me, you would not know it because I do it silently.
What language? That is none of your concern. It is between me and God.

I am continually amazed by the folks who know nothing whatsoever about the Charismatic Renewal, who have so many opinions.
I might add, that most of them are wrong, too.
There have been all sorts of posts here in this forum. You ask questions you do not have the least interest to know the answers to, because you believe you know it all. You know who I mean.

If you are the least interested in what the American Bishops have to say, I would suggest you read here.
ccc.garg.com/ccc/articles/nonattributed/US_Bishops_001.html

The truth is, I already know that your opinion outweighs the Bishops and the Holy Fathers.

What more can be said?

Yeah, I know. I do not sound very charitable. Mostly I am just weary of this sillyness.
 
Yeah the “charismatic” thing id disapointing. How much more Catholicity must we lose? I have no problem with intense heartfelt preaching. But I need not see any “charismatic” over emotional let’s catter to the people who are lacking a mature attention span… stuff.
 
Isn’t speaking in unknown tongues also a sign of possession?
That’s what spooks me about it.
 
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