Priest defies Cardinal Cupich, burns LGBTQ flag on church grounds

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kyrie03 said:
Our beliefs are too different for us to have a meaningful conversation about this topic.
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I am sorry to hear that. I felt I had made a pretty strong connection laying out what the Bible says, what the Church says, and what the father says. I had hoped that we could at least agree that the killing of homosexuals is a moral wrong. Still, I have no problems with anyone (including myself at times) not wishing to continue further in a discussion. All the best to you!
May God bless you and may you find peace in His love!!
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If this love involves the killing of people doing no harm to others then I will continue to be much better off without it.
 
I don’t think he even was disobedient. It sounds like the bishop asked him not to do a public burning, and so he did it privately. A pastor is fully within his rights to get rid of old banners and such in his parish, not to mention one that, in his judgment, depicted the Cross in a profane way.
“We did so in a private way, a quiet way, so as not to bring the ire of the gay community down upon this parish,” Kalchik said in a lengthy interview Monday with NBC News. “It’s our full right to destroy it, and we did so privately because the archdiocese was breathing on our back.”

“We put an end to a depiction of our Lord’s cross that was profane,” he added, noting the flag had a cross and a rainbow intertwined. To use the image of the cross as anything other than a “reminder of our Lord’s passion and death,” he said, “is what we consider a sacrilege.”

Kalchik said that the archdiocese had told him not to burn the flag in front of the church, as planned.

“So in a quiet way we took matters into our own hands and said a prayer of exorcism over this thing," he said. "It was cut into seven pieces, so it was burned over stages in the same fire pit that we used for the Easter vigil mass.”
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He sis so on Church property with parishioners observing. that seems public to me.

The Cardinal also seems to think he was being disobedient and his judgment is really what counts.
 
Apparently, a priest who disagrees with the gay agenda in Chicago is in need of psychiatric treatment and re-education.
 
Wow. That’s pretty powerful writing.
I’d never really heard of Cardinal Cupich, until his rabbit hole remarks. Well, I’m glad I don’t live in the Archdiocese of Chicago. I’ll leave it at that.
 
Cupich is also known for being unsupportive to a group wishing to celebrate TLM in his diocese and for having a traditional priest controversially removed on some alleged grounds of sexual misconduct with adults. The priest said he was innocent and according to some sources was exonerated.
 
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Wrong. A few people from the congregation decided to do it themselves after the priest was told not to. Good on them.
 
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JimG said:
Apparently, a priest who disagrees with the gay agenda in Chicago is in need of psychiatric treatment and re-education.
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It is a shame some Bishops did not take sex abuse as seriously as flag burning. Flag burning seems to illicit immediate removal, sex abuse not so fast.

I am sorry the priest has been removed.
This seems like business as usual for
Chicago.
 
Was the priest involved in the flag burning or was it just parishioners?
 
Yes, unfortunately that happens probably too often in Chicago and other dioceses.
 
“We write to request a full investigation of these actions and for full transparency from the diocese concerning Father Kalchik” and his future with the church, the letter states. Kalchik burned the flag even though the archdiocese instructed him not to.”

Fine, let there be a “full investigation.” They should also include some of the facts brought out in the linked post from Fr. Z’s blog, linked above by Weserthy
 
For Protestants to get involved here is a bit much. They need to butt out. It’s not a Protestant flag that was burned. If Protestants want to weigh in on this, then they can join the Catholic Church first.
 
This is the kind of rhetoric that is not needed.

Accepting gay people into the Church is not the same thing as accepting that homosexual acts are OK.

And we wonder why gay people think the Church hates them? :roll_eyes:
 
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Accepting gay people into the Church is not the same thing as accepting that homosexual acts are OK.
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Why do we have to accept “gay people”? We should (and do) accept people, but the people should not celebrate their weaknesses. Do we accept “alcoholic people” into the Church and allow them to drink during Mass, or do we accept them as people and encourage them to overcome their vices?
 
This is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard!

Yes, we do accept alcoholic people into Church. We accept all kinds of sinners, the last time I checked.
 
But we only identify “gay people” in a unique way. Everyone else are just people, regardless of their vices.
 
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