Priests and pastors on CAF

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I think there is a big distinction to be made between uncharitable (CAF’s favorite word, apparently,) and extreme frustration with those who will not listen.
Frankly I don’t blame them.
People who ask a question should be prepared to take the advice or correction of a priest.
 
Better a prideful, know-it-all layman than a prideful, know-it-all clergyman!

Although we (laymen) should initially give all clergy the benefit of the doubt, this doesn’t mean that clergy are never wrong and/or they know absolutely everything about all of Catholicism.

Just once, before I leave this Earth, just once I want to observe a clergyman admit they were wrong on doctrine/canon law when a layman has corrected him. And, yes, it does happen! And, yes, it has happened on CAF.

Sincerely,

A prideful layman. 🙂
 
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Just once, before I leave this Earth, just once I want to observe a clergyman admit they were wrong on doctrine/canon law when a layman has corrected them.
In the mean time, I will bet on the priest having it right.
 
Sorry to read this on CAF. This is exactly what this thread is about.
There’s not ONE “prideful” cleric here.
No amount of schooling of a layperson is equivalent to the years of Seminary and practical ministry of the Fathers.
 
AHHHHHHHH!!! Where was I??? Nice to meet you, @(name removed by moderator) !
 
If someone won’t listen then what is the point in corresponding with them? Something I am working on, and don’t do well, is letting someone else have the last word. When I notice the conversation going back and forth with no advancement in my better but rare moments I stop responding. If I don’t then the extreme frustration comes out.
 
Well, many of the people doing the correcting are not people with experience like 1ke.
Some are just teenagers with internet.
 
I’m talking about when people ask priests advice. And then argue with the priest. 🤐
 
What tips do you have for being successful at this? The removal of a real “ignore” tool has made this more difficult on CAF.
 
I’m talking about when people ask priests advice. And then argue with the priest. 🤐
Well that is very human. I deal with that often enough myself. Someone asks for advice and then argues with me. And then I do the same to others. Isn’t that human nature? We want to do what we want to do no matter the rules? If the rules are against what we want it is the rules that are wrong. We like to justify ourselves.
What tips do you have for being successful at this? The removal of a real “ignore” tool has made this more difficult on CAF.
I have no real tips besides getting older and allowing for opportunities to humble yourself. It is tempting to my pride to want to be right and want others to acknowledge that I’m right. What can help some is acknowledging when I’ve been wrong. The more I do that the less I feel a need to be right.

I find the ignore feature works well. I don’t get alerts from people responding and if I notice they have I simply don’t respond myself.
 
I / we have a few priests, and that’s a few, which are too many, recalcitrant and eccentric in real life. There was a priest in nearby parish who make all kinds of strange decisions which result in many of his parishioners to leave his parish to go to our cathedral many miles further down the road.

While we should be submissive to our priests, we should know when they are wrong. To follow everything that a priest says even when he is wrong or uninformed, is also not being responsible.

Being a long time Catholic, actually many of our belief are simple and not mysterious. Some are even no brainers. It is an insult even if they are lay people, if priests are condencending to his flock. I admit that I am prideful when it comes to this because I am not that ignorant or that a priest would know everything. From my experience in doing things together with priests in real life, lay people can contribute to the cause, and respect should be mutual when they are due.

God bless.
 
’ve seen it happen occassionaly. I’ve gotten the feeling at times that a few of our Latin cousins think we’re… weird. Or just plain wrong. Or not really Catholic.
We’re the closest Catholic church to the airport, and average an unsuspecting visitor a week, typically finding us on masttimes.org.

Brother Jude, an RC assigned to us, typically explains to them (and does a spectacular job).

We’ve only had one group walk out partway through, apparently deciding we “were too” orthodox.

And then there was that radtrad couple who goes to a “parish” set up by a renegade priest. They were absolutely convinced that every RC who came here was running from the Novus Ordo. I futilely tried to explain that we had run to to east, not from the West, and that the “froms . . .” never last long, to no avail.

An then there were the ones that told our former priest, Fr. Nils of blessed memory, that their priest had told them to come to our parish when he was away because we had valid sacraments (as opposed to, you know, those parishes the Bishop of Las Vegas runs :roll_eyes:).

He didn’t have much patiences for them. “I’m Roman Catholic, you know. So why is it invalid when I celebrate my own rite, but valid here?” He also didn’t have much patience for those (often the same people) who thought that Jesus spoke Latin: “what would he have one with it? Cuss out the roman soldiers?”
 
I wish those that left would return. One can post Church documents all day long, but nothing beats their pastoral wisdom, education, and experience when it comes to explaining what those documents actually mean in terms of the many questions people post on here. I miss Fr Ruggaro and Brother Jay, along with the others that are no longer posting here. Glad for the few we have left.
Brother Jay, at least, didn’t stop posting because of negative engagements with others. His health is perpetually precarious.

 
Thanks for posting that. I’ll keep him in my prayers.

He’s a truly gentle and kind man. I’m glad to have been able to communicate with him here, however briefly.
 
but it is undeniable that this is a social media website, and any of us (myself included) may not be who or what we present ourselves to be.
If you have legitimate doubts about someone’s credibility, send a note to the moderators. I know there was one time a new person claimed to be a priest but posted something, I don’t remember what but it was a basic knowledge topic, that was wrong. I sent a message mentioning that and their claim to be a priest and their posts were removed (I can’t claim to have certain knowledge if it was in relation).
So in short, when there’s doubt, send a message to the mods and they’ll take care of it. CAF has a vested interest in avoiding fakers.

And it’s that vested interest of CAF which allows me to take the word of our longstanding clergy members when they say who they are. (And thank you to all the clergy who are willing to post here and share your invaluable knowledge.)
 
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