Proof for praying to saints

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Why pray to saints, if Jesus Himself said we can go directly to the Father through Him?
Because the saints are Holy and if they are Holy you know that they are righteous and God hears the prayers of the Righteous. But you are correct we can go directly to the Father through him. But God loves to hear us pray for one another. And the power of prayer is very very powerful. Especially when we are praying for others. And the saints are in heaven with God. God is very close to the saints.
 
Hiyas RC

**“I have a picture of dear old Mom I will post.”] hmmmm.

Father Mike was teaching me about lies one day at my dinner table.
I had told Father, “that I never learned to lie…and I don’t think I wanna learns it” ( He knew I grew-up in a cult commune thinggie and was kept isolated, till rescued…who would I lie to?)
He say’d, “good girl, cause Jesus and me don’t like lies”.

I thought about this a minute, then ask’d “Father Mike, what do you tell people that bring you their baby to bless…and ask you, if their ‘baby isn’t the cutest’…when you know that baby is unattractive”

He say’d this to me. “Baby, I say 'my what a baby”

I giggled soOoOo hard…no one could finish eating, cause everyone caught my ~giggles~

The above story is true, but might be kimmie phrased ]

SoOo…
My, what a Mommy.😃

( I can see the Darwinist…scrambling to get here ).:D:D

When someone asks me to pray for them…I become an intercessor. That is a very serious ‘charge’ given to me, by the one asking my intersession. I take that charge seriously, reflecting upon, what is being petitioned of me. Knowing that I don’t always ( quite often, in fact ), express myself, in the way my heart, soul, wishes to convey, I too seek an intercessor. To join with me as agreeing upon what I’m petitioning, of my Father, ABBA.

The Saint I pray “with” helps keep me grounded.

Here is an example:
Christmas, I ask’d for a pony. I felt it was a righteous request ( prayer ), wish. Father Mike, interceded for me…by saying “maybe after chemo. Chemo and ponys don’t work well together, baby. If you are sick, that pony will be lonely”. kimmie phrased, but truth ].

Y’ll know he was right, and until he interceded… I didn’t realize what I was askin’ for.

It’s not a matter of “Praying to a Saint”, It’s askin’ that Saint to help guide me, my prayers…in intercession that Our Father, finds them as agreeing on His will being done, not mine.

As shown, my will…is often wrong.

I hope my storys examples, though simple, from a kids eyes and heart, can help others.

God Bless

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Hi kimmie, Also in 956 of the CCC It shows how the intercession of saints being more closely united to Christ, those who dwell in heaven fix the whole church more firmly in holiness.

I think you can learn alot from RC. But I don’t think I would drink with him If I were you. I know he blames me for the wine, but Chris brought some too. I think his gram made it. How about RC"S baby picture huh! :rotfl: My Mother is a beautiful women and always says beauty is only skin deep. But Daddy always said yea but uglyness is to the bone. My Mother always said beauty fades away, and My dad always said yeah but uglyness holds its own. What do you think of RC. Ya think hes holding his own.

I had a baptist friend who called wine the devil juice. I never agreed. But after Chris’s grams I must re-think my reasoning. I kept looking at RC and thinking different things. Like I know God created us all, but the more I looked at RC I CAN see how people could think we all came from apes, you know what I mean.

And Chris kept asking me what I thought of his lips. All I could think of is loose lips sink ships but :eek:

And you are what you eat, what kind of saying is that. RC was eating banana’s banana chips,banana bread. You know what I mean.

Well I must go back to work. Have a great day.
Hiyas Rinnie

This is 2 cute funny,:)🙂
I had a glass of Dom’s for New Years:)

I think where Grwnups get lost…is this.
Praying to Saints…
The first part of Their prayer - we say is a “hail” of their stature. A judge we call “Your Honor”…a great Teacher we might call a “Master”. The First Part of Their Prayer is a “Hail of Honor” the rest of it is asking to help us…in making our petition, righteous in Our Fathers eyes.

We in fact are praying ‘with’ Saints. As agreeing, that our petitions ( with that Saints guidance ), are seeking Gods Will, not our will.
 
Hiyas Rinnie

This is 2 cute funny,:)🙂
I had a glass of Dom’s for New Years:)

I think where Grwnups get lost…is this.
Praying to Saints…
The first part of Their prayer - we say is a “hail” of their stature. A judge we call “Your Honor”…a great Teacher we might call a “Master”. The First Part of Their Prayer is a “Hail of Honor” the rest of it is asking to help us…in making our petition, righteous in Our Fathers eyes.

We in fact are praying ‘with’ Saints. As agreeing, that our petitions ( with that Saints guidance ), are seeking Gods Will, not our will./QUOT

Very good point Kimmie. I think to that when we ask them to pray for us it helps us to also receive more Grace from God to see things more clear. I agree we do not have to do this, but my thing is why in the heck not. To ask someone who lived like we do, in the same world and made it to heaven, to help us to make it, and pray with us and for us also. And for our children. As my kids would say whats the down side of that. My daughter is 25 and now every morning prays the rosary on her way to work. Now that is a Miracle Kimmie. Now my son, well when My Dad died in March he went to Florida with my Mom to bring stuff back and she gave him Paps rosarys. Well he has a big red neck truck, loud, big you know the kind, but Paps rosary beads are hanging on the Mirror. So we are making progress. Pap said them every single day, So now If we can get Jr to at least do lets say once a week. 👍
 
kimmielittle;4647719:
Hiyas Rinnie

This is 2 cute funny,:)🙂
I had a glass of Dom’s for New Years:)

I think where Grwnups get lost…is this.
Praying to Saints…
The first part of Their prayer - we say is a “hail” of their stature. A judge we call “Your Honor”…a great Teacher we might call a “Master”. The First Part of Their Prayer is a “Hail of Honor” the rest of it is asking to help us…in making our petition, righteous in Our Fathers eyes.

We in fact are praying ‘with’ Saints. As agreeing, that our petitions ( with that Saints guidance ), are seeking Gods Will, not our will.[/QUOT

Very good point Kimmie. I think to that when we ask them to pray for us it helps us to also receive more Grace from God to see things more clear. I agree we do not have to do this, but my thing is why in the heck not. To ask someone who lived like we do, in the same world and made it to heaven, to help us to make it, and pray with us and for us also. And for our children. As my kids would say whats the down side of that. My daughter is 25 and now every morning prays the rosary on her way to work. Now that is a Miracle Kimmie. Now my son, well when My Dad died in March he went to Florida with my Mom to bring stuff back and she gave him Paps rosarys. Well he has a big red neck truck, loud, big you know the kind, but Paps rosary beads are hanging on the Mirror. So we are making progress. Pap said them every single day, So now If we can get Jr to at least do lets say once a week. 👍
I agree, BUT not just cause you favor my opinion.
Mostly, when I defend my Faith…I can do so with logic ( prayed on yes, but simple logic ). " whats the down side of that" ] There is no logical downside.🙂

“Do It yourself” ( DIY ) is cool but who wouldn’t seek out the advice of a GREAT plumber, before stripping out all the plumbing?

Wouldn’t I say some thinggie like this.

"Mr. Plumber you are a GREAT plumber. Your works I have seen and read and studied, I want to do this job correctly, It’s important, it’s for my Father’s House, and I know you can help keep me grounded in my efforts. Will you advise and guide my acts, prayers, ‘with’ me.?

I have 'Honored" Mr.Plumber not idolized him.
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rinnie;4647813:
I agree, BUT not just cause you favor my opinion.
Mostly, when I defend my Faith…I can do so with logic ( prayed on yes, but simple logic ). " whats the down side of that" ] There is no logical downside.🙂

“Do It yourself” ( DIY ) is cool but who wouldn’t seek out the advice of a GREAT plumber, before stripping out all the plumbing?

Wouldn’t I say some thinggie like this.

"Mr. Plumber you are a GREAT plumber. Your works I have seen and read and studied, I want to do this job correctly, It’s important, it’s for my Father’s House, and I know you can help keep me grounded in my efforts. Will you advise and guide my acts, prayers, ‘with’ me.?

I have 'Honored" Mr.Plumber not idolized him.
You have a great understanding of intercession. And that is a wonderful way of putting it. 👍
 
kimmielittle;4647894:
You have a great understanding of intercession. And that is a wonderful way of putting it. 👍
Thank you.
I put this in for a very good reason "Will you advise and guide my acts, prayers, ‘with’ me.?’ ]

It answers “Jesus Himself said we can go directly to the Father through Him?” ] ‘with’ me …is my acts, prayers going straight to God…ALONG with Mr. Plumbers.

We do not ask the Saints to pray for us ( cause reveled ) WITHOUT our prayers. We ask for Their intercession, side by side, ALONG with us. Without my prayers and acts, I’ve done nothing.

God Bless You
 
People have been praying for an end to abortion for many long years. Why do you suppose God hasn’t answered these prayers yet?
 
rinnie;4647813:
“Mr. Plumber you are a GREAT plumber. Your works I have seen and read and studied, I want to do this job correctly, It’s important, it’s for my Father’s House, and I know you can help keep me grounded in my efforts. Will you advise and guide my acts, prayers, ‘with’ me.?
I have 'Honored” Mr.Plumber not idolized him.
I see what you mean here but lets look at this another way.
Your father is a jack of all traits,he can do anything.
Your Father is a plumber and has offered to help
with building your house and certainly any plumbing.
Would you actually go to another plumber and ask someone else to come in and do the same job your own father would be able to get done in the best way possible?
Why go to anyone else when you have the Father right there ready and willing to do anything for you.
 
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Father Mike was teaching me about lies one day at my dinner table.
I had told Father, “that I never learned to lie…and I don’t think I wanna learns it” ( He knew I grew-up in a cult commune thinggie and was kept isolated, till rescued…who would I lie to?)
He say’d, “good girl, cause Jesus and me don’t like lies”.

I thought about this a minute, then ask’d “Father Mike, what do you tell people that bring you their baby to bless…and ask you, if their ‘baby isn’t the cutest’…when you know that baby is unattractive”

He say’d this to me. “Baby, I say 'my what a baby”

I giggled soOoOo hard…no one could finish eating, cause everyone caught my ~giggles~

The above story is true, but might be kimmie phrased ]****
Hi rinnie, 👋

Thanks for the memories:
I roomed with a guy one time, years ago. He went on about his wife 24/7 about what a beautiful woman she was. I mean always, over and over. He would reread her letters etc. After about a month he received some pictures and said “Hey want to see a picture of my wife” Excited I said sure, expecting a “babe”! We were in our 20s. The picture he showed me was an “older woman” Maybe 40? at least 100 lbs over weight and I swear she had warts on her face! 😃 Unkempt hair, no makeup, etc. I look ed and looked and finally said “Boy, this is a real good picture!”

I understood after that what they mean when they say Love is blind!🙂
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                    [And that is a true story! ]
He later left deserting to Canada rather than go to Nam!

I don’t have any baby pictures. But here is one of my favoriates. My wife says it makes me look so hamesome! I think it was because I combed my hair! I do have mom’s eyes :rotfl:

By the way, when Saints pray for us. The angels take the prayers to God on trays, like incense, God likes that! 😃 **
 
Very good point Kimmie. I think to that when we ask them to pray for us it helps us to also receive more Grace from God to see things more clear. I agree we do not have to do this, but my thing is why in the heck not. To ask someone who lived like we do, in the same world and made it to heaven, to help us to make it, and pray with us and for us also. And for our children. As my kids would say whats the down side of that. My daughter is 25 and now every morning prays the rosary on her way to work.

**Mother’s prayers are more powerful than others everyone knows that That is why catholics ask mary to pray for us! ** Now that is a Miracle Kimmie. Now my son, well when My Dad died in March he went to Florida with my Mom to bring stuff back and she gave him Paps rosarys. Well he has a big red neck truck, loud, big you know the kind, but Paps rosary beads are hanging on the Mirror. So we are making progress. Pap said them every single day, So now If we can get Jr to at least do lets say once a week.

I can see Him now! Poor Jesus!😃
 
People have been praying for an end to abortion for many long years. Why do you suppose God hasn’t answered these prayers yet?
**Chris, Praying at the Planned Parenthood, I saw 10 not happen last month! Prayers are answered! If we don’t care why should God? Prayer is the answer. Why not make a prayer kind of like: "All the Angels and Saints in heaven, Please Join me is my request for abortion to be stopped. I ask this through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

I think God can’t hear us because not enough people actually care. They believe women have a right to have their babies murdered. Pray for them also. They know not what they do! Poor souls.**
 
kimmielittle;4647894:
I see what you mean here but lets look at this another way.
Your father is a jack of all traits,he can do anything.
Your Father is a plumber and has offered to help
with building your house and certainly any plumbing.
Would you actually go to another plumber and ask someone else to come in and do the same job your own father would be able to get done in the best way possible?
Why go to anyone else when you have the Father right there ready and willing to do anything for you.
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Hi hayes, 👋

The best answer is: Why Not?

Do you realize that many good and faithful Protestants pray to Jesus everyday and even cast out demons in His name? Do you have any idea what Jesus will say to them? He already told us in Matthew 7:22 Many will say “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? …” You can read the rest!

What they have omitted is the one important thing needed, a faithful obedience to Jesus’ commandment to also Eat His Flesh and Drink His blood. This must be done while doing all the other things that He desires to be done. They neglect to be obedient so their prayers just might be useless unless combined with someone who is already in heaven who will listen to them because they were once sinners also! I never presume I am saved I ask the angles and the Blessed Mother to pray for me now and at the hour of my death that I may obtain eternal life.
Am I worthy? No one is!
Can I be saved? The price has been paid!
Can I earn Heaven? No, but I can lose it!

So as I said: Wny Not?

God Bless
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**Chris, Praying at the Planned Parenthood, I saw 10 not happen last month! Prayers are answered! If we don’t care why should God? Prayer is the answer. Why not make a prayer kind of like: "All the Angels and Saints in heaven, Please Join me is my request for abortion to be stopped. I ask this through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

I think God can’t hear us because not enough people actually care. They believe women have a right to have their babies murdered. Pray for them also. They know not what they do! Poor souls.**
I’m subscribed to 40 days for life e-mail newsletters. Several abortionists felt spiritual oppression come upon them as people prayed outside. Feelings of shame and guilt came upon them for no logical reason. Many of them left the abortion practice for good over this.

I’m also reminded of the incident where the sound of a baby crying could be heard inside an abortion clinic. There were no live babies there to cry, and nobody could find the source of the sound. Many women in the waiting room walked out without aborting.

But I still have to wonder why so many are still allowed to die in spite of our prayers.
 
I’m subscribed to 40 days for life e-mail newsletters. Several abortionists felt spiritual oppression come upon them as people prayed outside. Feelings of shame and guilt came upon them for no logical reason. Many of them left the abortion practice for good over this.

I’m also reminded of the incident where the sound of a baby crying could be heard inside an abortion clinic. There were no live babies there to cry, and nobody could find the source of the sound. Many women in the waiting room walked out without aborting.

But I still have to wonder why so many are still allowed to die in spite of our prayers.
Chris, I pray for world peace, how come God doesnt answer? I pray for the conversion of all sinners, how come doesnt answer? I pray for the end of rapes, how come God doesnt answer? I pray for the end of muders, how come God doesnt answer?

Did you ever think if God said yes to everyone of our prayers we would be God. There is a reason God doesnt say yes all the time. But God always answers are prayers its just sometimes the answer in no or not yet.

That reason is we have free will, and free will is for the sinner as well as the righteous. He rains on the just and the unjust. That is a grace. you need to quit trying to think were God is going and start just walking with Him in faith. Hold His hand and say dont worry Father about me I trust in you and were ever you take me Im fine with it and what ever you allow I know your in control. I will continue to pray for what I beleive is right and I know when you say yes I thank you and when you say maybe, I thank you and when you say no I thank you. I just thank you for being you and I trust that as long as I am with you everything will be ok.

There is a reason abortion remains Chris, but dont allow the devils actions to prevent you from the Eucharist. If you do that then your not holding your Fathers hand.
 
People have been praying for an end to abortion for many long years. Why do you suppose God hasn’t answered these prayers yet?
Hiyas Chris
That is a GREAT Question.👍👍

I dono ~sigh~
I do think help is on it’s way. Maybe, in ways I can’t understand.?

I wonder why Our Father, let that king Herod kill all those babys when Jesus was a baby.? I think their Mommys and Daddys was praying to end it, toOo.

God Bless
 
kimmielittle;4647894:
I see what you mean here but lets look at this another way.
Your father is a jack of all traits,he can do anything.
Your Father is a plumber and has offered to help
with building your house and certainly any plumbing.
Would you actually go to another plumber and ask someone else to come in and do the same job your own father would be able to get done in the best way possible?
Why go to anyone else when you have the Father right there ready and willing to do anything for you.
Hiyas Hays.🙂
If I’m making a gift prayers are gifts of obedience ] for/to my Brother ( He’s not my really Brother…I think, He’s like 23 years older than me…but I dono.), does it hurt or help me to ask Katelyn, Ma’am for guidance.? She’s older than me toOo and knows more of what He likes.

My Father, has already built His House. I’m building ‘my gift’, which also hopefully, becomes His House.
 
Hiyas RC, ~gigglin~
My my my…

I like your hair ties. I have some just like them. I wear my hair like that, but my hair is toOo long for me to brush by myself.
 
I have prayed about this, “Why not just go to Our Father”…albeit: Jesus told us we could through Him. He also taught…"where two or more…as agreeing…’ ( you know this one ). The Whole of Him…"Eat His Flesh and Drink His blood."

I get the ‘feeling’ this is kinda dangerous, for most of us and may be where misinterpretations are allowed to enter.

Example:
If I can go straight to God,
Why do I need the Body of The Church.?
( answer intercession )
Why should I care about the Bible.?
( answer intercession )
Why do I need to be in Communion.?
( answer intercession )
I’ve been saved I need nothing else…
( answer intercession )
This could go on and on…until…we find ourselves outside

Because, we are given freewill…without intercession we are self limiting. We limit ourselves without checks and balances.

Again, intercession keeps us/me grounded.
 
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