Some hymns are predictable like that, especially those designed for simple congregational singing. More sophisticated hymns are artistically interesting precisely because they are unpredictable and are full of little surprises. You’re not going to be able to bungle your way through “Jerusalem” (“And did those feet, in ancient time”), for example.LittleLady is so correct in saying hymns are predictable.
Again, I was not the one who originated the off-topic commentary, nor did I disrespect the forums. Your compadre was the one who initiated the spreading of … I will be kind and say half-truths.If you want to discuss the arch-heretic Luther, go start another thread.
Stop disrespecting the forums and the OP while trying to spread your half truths.
That thing is impossible to sing.He did write some great hymns. A Mighty Fortress Is Our God…
I have no problem with Luther hymns outside of the Liturgy.Depends on the organist. A lot of times they play with too slow a tempo. But a lot of hymns are like that.
See, in that case I actually have the utmost respect for Lutherans then.Then don’t use them. I
I would say it depends. There are some Lutherans that are vehemently anti-Roman Catholic. I personally don’t take that stance although I will stand my ground on those doctrinal differences that we have. Would we use post-Reformation Catholic hymns? I don’t know any off-hand so I can’t really comment substantially. Would we use a Marian hymn? Depends on what you mean by that. I mentioned “What Child Is This” which could be considered a Marian hymn I guess, but our hymns typically center on Christ and/or the Trinity. If you mean a hymn which upholds heretical views of Marian uber-devotion? Then I would say definitely not.Are Lutherans in general comfortable using post-Reformation Catholic hymns in their Liturgical assembly? How about an 18th century Catholic Marian hymn?
I have mixed feelings on closed communion to begin with. I won’t go into that because its a complicated topic. I will say that I am perfectly comfortable separating a hymn or song which agrees with my confession doctrinally from the songwriter who authored it.See, in that case I actually have the utmost respect for Lutherans then.
I feel it would be a sham for them to use hymns written by people who they aren’t in communion with, who they believe to be in serious error, in their liturgical assembly.
So, for that, the Lutherans have more integrity than us Catholics in that regard.
I would say those are simply faithful Lutherans.. There are some Lutherans that are vehemently anti-Roman Catholic.
Would you use an Islamic chant then?will say that I am perfectly comfortable separating a hymn or song which agrees with my confession doctrinally from the songwriter who authored it.
I know that Haydn’s Te Deum is in a lot of Lutheran hymnbooks. There are undoubtedly others.Are Lutherans in general comfortable using post-Reformation Catholic hymns in their Liturgical assembly?
I would disagree on what you say is faithful by disdaining fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. Our goal is to be one body, on faith, one baptism. You don’t get there by scorning those with whom you have doctrinal disagreement.I would say those are simply faithful Lutherans.
Luther is kind of the archetypal Lutheran, isn’t he? And he was vehemently anti-Catholic.
IMO, if you’re a Lutheran you need to be anti-Catholic. I don’t really see how you can be a Lutheran yet not be anti-Catholic - you’d have to be a lukewarm Lutheran to not be. Anti-Catholicism is built into Lutheranism.
Would an Islamic chant confess Christ as Lord and Savior, our Redeemer, and God? Straw man argument.Would you use an Islamic chant then?
I think you are very much confusing yourself.What? What fallacious comment about Luther etc? I believe you must be confusing me with someone else.