Protestants: how do you know that your interpretation of the Bible is the right one?

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Gabriel_of_12 said:
Gabriel of 12:

Now that you bring this up, has any noncatholic or protestant looked into this claim to confirm if it is valid? I hold if their is more than one Church, we already have one two many, so the 33,000 figure and counting does not phase me one bit. But I think the number is trying to make a point, there is not one non catholic or protestant church but many different churches holding to different Christian doctrines and theologies.
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Gabriel in Gods eyes He has one church.
The RCC has to accept responsibility for the splits in the past.
 
elvisman said:
Nobody’s name-calling.
"By their fruits, you shall know them" (Matt. 7:16). Your fruit on these forums has been to spread anti-Catholic sentiment.:rolleyes:

Jesus gave guarantees to his Church (Matt. 16:15-10, Matt. 18:15-18, John 16:13-15). As individuals He gave us a moral assurance of salvation.
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Jesus gave many promises and instructions to His disciples.
Are you a disciple of Christ?
 
elvisman said:
Nobody’s name-calling.
"By their fruits, you shall know them" (Matt. 7:16). Your fruit on these forums has been to spread anti-Catholic sentiment.:rolleyes:

Jesus gave guarantees to his Church (Matt. 16:15-10, Matt. 18:15-18, John 16:13-15). As individuals He gave us a moral assurance of salvation.
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I am pro truth.
I am instructed not to be unequally yoked with non believers.
 
allhers said:
Wow, you couldn’t be more wrong if you tried when you said that the Latin Vulgate errored, that is the translation that is the very closest to the original languages, … On top of that, I am absolutely positive that the Holy Spirit inspired the whole thing all along, …
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The Catholic Church has stated St Jerome translation contains errors, and has recently been corrected. This task of correcting errors was deemed so important that when the first pope died his successor saw to it the task of correcting errors was completed.

Here is the link:

ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JPTHESAU.HTM
Apostolic Constitution SCRIPTURARUM THESAURUS
Pope John Paul II

Here is an excerpt: "In realizing this revision, “the old text of the Vulgate edition was taken into consideration word for word, namely, whenever the original texts are accurately rendered, such as they are found in modern critical editions; however the text was prudently improved, whenever it departs from them or interprets them less correctly.”

Please tell me how you can be sure other trusted info will not one day be corrected?

Maybe the OP should’ve asked, “Catholics: how do you know that your interpretation of the Bible is the right one?”

Ginger
 
Ginger2 said:
The Catholic Church has stated St Jerome translation contains errors, and has recently been corrected. This task of correcting errors was deemed so important that when the first pope died his successor saw to it the task of correcting errors was completed.

Here is the link:

ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JPTHESAU.HTM
Apostolic Constitution SCRIPTURARUM THESAURUS
Pope John Paul II

Here is an excerpt: "In realizing this revision, “the old text of the Vulgate edition was taken into consideration word for word, namely, whenever the original texts are accurately rendered, such as they are found in modern critical editions; however the text was prudently improved, whenever it departs from them or interprets them less correctly.”

Please tell me how you can be sure other trusted info will not one day be corrected?

Maybe the OP should’ve asked, “Catholics: how do you know that your interpretation of the Bible is the right one?”

Ginger
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I see why you have trouble with the Bible at all, you need to learn to read the WHOLE thing. Not just parts of it.
Like that article for example…it says this…
The text born out of this revision—which, indeed, was quite demanding in certain books of the Old Testament which Saint Jerome did not touch—
Now, care to recant?
 
Hisalone said:
So you will not see Daniel or Samuel in heaven?
I disagree that by denying the trinity you deny God.
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That’s because you don’t unserdtand scripture.
The Trinity hadn’t been revealed to the Jewish Fathers. They were justified by faith because they trusted in god through the Law.

Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law.

During the Transfiguration, Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus. Although the Trinity hadn’t been revealed to them here on earth, they certainly knew about the Trinity at the time of the Transfiguration.

My advice to you: Do some homework on the Trinity.
 
Originally Posted by allhers
Hisalone, (I put what you said in red)

Jesus chose married men to be His disciples the highest calling for anyone on earth.

Not all were married, and don’t you remember that John was the one most beloved by Jesus? Plus, like I said, they were all celibate afterwards.

Peter was married and Paul said others were.To claim they were celibate is considering Jewish tradition and practice would be fallacious

You obviously have no idea of the truth of this either. NO one is denying that some of them were Married, you said Jesus choose Married men and I said not all were. Thats the truth! St. John wasn’t and he was the most beloved, it says that in the Bible.

The early church celebrated the sabboth on saturday, they were Jewish remember. Thy did celebrate the Lords day but itwas not sabboth to them.

When I speak of the early Church, I am speaking of the Catholic Church. Jesus rose on Sunday, and Pentacost was the beginning of the early Catholic Church.

So your speaking of the Church after the 4th century?

Did you think that Jesus rose from the dead after the 4th century? It was after 3 days, okay? Then he instructed those He had chosen, you know, those men who remained celibate afterwards, for 40 days it says, in ALL that He wanted them to teach. Then AFTER that He sent the Holy Spirit on Pentacost, (you know, when the Apostles were gathered in prayer WITH the Blessed Mother (thats in Acts of the Apostles). You can read it in the very first chapter.

Did Mary teach Jesus to pray to David?Moses?Abraham?

I notice that you neatly avoided checking out the Acts of the Apostles where they prayed with her, didn’t you? You also didn’t acknowledge that Jesus prayed with her, we still pray with her. Nice way to try to avoid the discussion, but it didn’t work.

You pray to Mary. Again I will pray with you today but will never pray with you after you depart. That is the difference which you dont address

Actually I pray WITH her, and it isn’t a good idea to tell someone what they do when they know what they do and you don’t. That is bearing false witness and that breaks one of the commandments, you know about those don’t you? As for your very last sentance where you say "Again I will pray with you today…I have no idea what you are talking about there, care to explain that?
 
scooter469 said:
I am confused on why the Bible is interpretated differently.
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A lot of people are, thats the problem, they think they can choose any ole translation they like and make it mean whatever they think. Personally I think that is why Jesus founded ONE Church and instructed those men with His teachings.
 
Hisalone said:
There are many Roman Catholics here that want to give the RCC the credit for the bible. I disagree.
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Okay lets start here. Who do you claim WROTE the first BIBLE. Was it the Protestant faith. OR was it the RC faith? I did not ask you who they Got the words from. again who physically wrote the bible?

Question 2 How could Mary teach Jesus to Pray? That is what you said correct. Do you deny that Jesus is God. I was always taught that prayer came from God?

Question 3 Where did it say that Paul was married and John and to whom. ALso where is your proof that Peter was married at the time of his Being called to be a Apsostle. Can you prove that Peter was indeed not a widow?

Lets start there. Also how do you explain Tradition. And if you agree with the Bible that we are to follow oral Tradition, where do you get it? For oral is not in the bible or do you disagree with that also.
 
elvisman said:
That’s because you don’t unserdtand scripture.
**The Trinity hadn’t **been revealed to the Jewish Fathers. They were justified by faith because they trusted in god through the Law.

Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law.

**During the Transfiguration, Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus. Although the Trinity hadn’t **been revealed to them here on earth, they certainly knew about the Trinity at the time of the Transfiguration.

My advice to you: Do some homework on the Trinity.
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Been there and done that. before I came here I was on Islamic forums.
It is possible to trustin/beleive in God and still not have a revealation of the trinity.
Can such a person be saved? I say yes.
 
allhers said:
We know, you say that all the time, isn’t it strange that you don’t understand that Jesus founded ONE Church also and that we Catholic’s (which means universal) are that Church.
ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC
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My response was to rinnie who was unsure of my position,
How can a holy church buy and sell church offices.
How can a holy church be so intertwined with the tempral that it would raise up and crown princes? pull down and condemn princes? charge secular leaders taxes?
How can a holy church vulgar behavior of its leaders for so long?
How can a holy church torture and put to death those that want to follow a simple path in their faith?
How can a holy church sell its apostolic inheritance?
How can a holy church condone the use of graven images?
How can a holy church give credit to anyone but God or turn to anyone but God for their salvation?

No allhers your log in ID says it all you are not His but Hers.
 
elvisman said:
You STILL haven’t answered my question.
Can you?
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The reason there is more than one church is the split of the Orthodox and Coptic over papal authority among others. The Protestants split into various churches during the reformation-- a period of time that church reform was badly needed. The Catholic Church was not Holy nor Apostolic for it was corrupt, apostate and abusive. There were further splits at later dates for a variety of reasons.
 
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