The Church does not do such things, Sellers. Sinful men, claiming to be Catholic, committed gross atrocities against the innocent. They were wolves in sheeps clothing. You are correct that the Church does not condone or support such acts, which are considered mortal sins.
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Yes, of course! Besides, there is much of the Apostolic Tradition that has been retained by Baptists, so does not merit abandonment.
What if what Catholics believe is what the Apostles believed and taught?
All very good questions.
The Catholic church is not a “denomination”. It is the church founded by Christ. Denominations are those ecclesial communities that have left the Apostolic Faith and distinguish themselves by how much of Catholic Teaching they reject.
There really is an tremendous irony (or should I say hypocrisy?) in the fact that, in another thread, this young lady excoriates someone for using the word cr*p in a private message to her, but now feels free to use the phrase WTF , and moreover, uses it in connection with a belief she knows is more precious than diamonds to most of those on this forum.
She is a troll and is playing people on this forum. Just read the history of her posts, it’s very obvious.
I’m sadly coming round to this point of view. For a time I thought she was sincere, but then some of the untruths began to worry me. One minute she hated attending Mass, the next she’s recommending it, one minute she’s completed an RCIA course, the next she hasn’t, one minute she’s convinced that the Catholic church is ‘her’ church, the next she’s being insulting about the core doctrine of the Eucharist.
History has proven the corruption and resistance to reformIf it won’t admit the possibility that it is corrupt, that is proof of its corruption. A corrupt Church that won’t admit its corruption, cannot be reformed. And a Church that refuses to be reformed is heading for trouble. If its apologists defend the indefensible, & minimise its crimes, they thereby condemn it as no non-Catholic ever could.
Depends on the definition… The true church is not an organization, not a series of buildings, but the body of true believers. The true church consists of those who are regenerate; that is, it consists of those who are the true Christians.
The Catholic Church is most cetainly a denomination.
I am so sorry but you are wating your time on me, I have given up trying to follow catholic beliefs now. But I will never leave my catholic church though.
The catholicchruch is not corrupt; only people are corrupt. And if you don’t mind I think I have eyes to read what swear words some one sends me in a private message. She said the “f” word on many, many occasions.
The problem is, Jennifer, is that one sentence, ’ I have given up trying to follow Catholic beliefs now’ does not go with the other’ ’ But I will never leave my Catholic chirch though’.
So do you think that I should leave my church? It is my church because it is Christ’s church!
Because I have not discerned the Holy Spirit calling me to be Catholic. And because there are way too many rules to know let alone understand. It is my understanding that when one consents to be Catholic they are saying they know and agree with all the Church teaches and will uphold it to the best of their ability. Since I can’t know them all and I don’t believe in blind faith I am not going to be Catholic. This is subject to change if the Holy Spirit so prompts, of course.Protestants, what ever your denomination is, please tell me why you will not be Catholic!?
xxx jennifer xxx
That is completely unfounded.
We do believe that every human being is fallible and born sinful and that does not exclude the pope, the magisterium or even Mary.They don’t like infallibility of the pope - they prefer their own infallibilityas a result there are thousands of protestant popes: 2 Tm 4, 3 they will collect themselves a whole series of teachers according to their own tastes; (dear separated brethren, please pray for a gift of humility for yourselves). Jesus said: this is my Body, this is my Blood, but protestant non-believers know better than Jesus - it’s just bread and wine.
The pope is not the vicar of Christ. The Vicar of Christ is the Holy Spirit… We do obey the Vicar of Christ… we just don’t obey the pope.
We refuse to accept a wafer God that has to be eaten. Jesus Christ died on the Cross and said that it was finished. We celebrate our communion Sunday in remembrance of Him, not eating “Him” in the form of a wafer.
There is no need for a sacrament of reconciliation: We confess our sins to God and we should do that daily… For the purpose of spiritual guidance we may talk to a pastor, but we don’t have to confess to a priest.
We don’t need questionable apparitions to guide us… we have God’s Word in the Bible.
That is purely your opinion… You might not like it, but there are quite a few biblically founded preachers out there whose listeners are not there to get their ears tickled.
You don’t really consider these men Christians, do you? I mean you might as well call Sai Baba a Christian and it would not make much of a difference to me, because He isn’t. You might call Joel Osteen a good preacher too, but he is a mere motivational speaker and not preaching the Gospel.
My “denomination” is not the right one. I am sure that the true church is more than just one denomination or one organisation or even a couple of buildings. It is the body of Christ and as a such the true church consists of all true Christians may they be Baptist, Methodist or any other denomination… Quite a few Catholics might be among those too…
We all know what God tells us about this in the Bible and I disagree with organisations that bless such behavior and even ordain these people.
Another one of those personal problems you have? If you want to talk seriously, refrain from insults that are unfounded… it does not reflect too positively upon yourself if you don’t.
You are one confused cookie! you do not believe in the practices of the holy catholic church, but you will attend services. You also show that you are methodist and catholic? I come from a long line of methodist minister and went to siminary to becom one myself and they are nothing like each other and teach verry differently! It was only when I recieved a college education on christianity did I aknowledge and embrace the Catholic church! Since it is obviouse that you are verry confused, perhaps you should do the same for a house devided cannot stand and nor will your soul! Good luck!I can’t become catholic because I can’t believe in the Eucharist.I will however never leave my catholic church!
I like how you speak of opinion! that is what your beliefs are based off of; opinions not truth. I was once protestant until I recieved a college education in siminary on chritianity. Let me let you in on somthing that Baptists and other protestant religions teach. They teach that Catholics are not save becasue they believe they are saved by works and not faith, but think about it! If you are really saved and filled with the holy spirit than you cannot help but do works and those works Christ liked to call fruits! at the same baptist say you must be baptized to be saved, but why would you not call that a work? It is true! you must be baptized and you are compeled to do such a “work” becasue of your faith and love for Christ! I am sad to see that you have left the holy church for a counterfeit. I will pray for you!
You certainly have no worries in that department.
Welcome to CAF Thumper! I think you will find the answers you seek here. And consider yourself invited!
Yes, of course! Besides, there is much of the Apostolic Tradition that has been retained by Baptists, so does not merit abandonment.
What if what Catholics believe is what the Apostles believed and taught?
All very good questions.
The Catholic church is not a “denomination”. It is the church founded by Christ. Denominations are those ecclesial communities that have left the Apostolic Faith and distinguish themselves by how much of Catholic Teaching they reject.
