That’s a very, very good point, fbl!
The successors of the Apostles, that Jesus promised to lead into all Truth.
There is no such thing, Tweety. For you to say so demonstrates your lack of Catholic faith.
Again you find it necessary to insult Catholics, Tweety. You assert that we do not test the spirits or apply discernment. Indeed we do this, which is how we know your claim to be Catholic is false.
You are bearing false witness against your neighbors, Tweety. How does this glorify Jesus?
You are right. Catholicity is defined by what Jesus taught. He taught everything to His Apostles, and they to the Church. To the extent that you refuse their testimony, alive and well in the Church, you deny Christ.
Your intimations that what the Catholic Church teaches is not “true” is proof of your lack of Catholicity. Why do you claim to be a part of something which you publicly deny?
This is one of those anti-Catholic statements, Tweety. Jesus appointed authority. You refuse to accept those whom He sent. To that extent, you refuse Him.
She is, Tweety. Jesus founded a Church to whom He gave gifts and authority. It is through that Church that we are saved. Those who malign the Church in the way that you are doing damage the salvation of all of us.
See post above.
Amen Brother!!!
Amen brother!!!
Having sex does not make a person unholy in the sense you mean.
Actually, keep praying Des. She has made progress. She first added “born again” to Catholic, which clarifies that she has a non-Catholic theology.
We can join any kind of suffering to that of Christ. Why should fasting be excluded?
Did you do this to draw closer to God? Did it work?
Disciplines of the spirit are not “forced upon” anyone. They are enjoyned to participate in the life of the Spirit.
Pk, so number 3. Devoted ENTIRELY to the deity or the work of the deity. Key word there is ENTIRELY (In case my caps lock didnt show that). The vessels used in the temple in the OT were to be used ONLY for that purpose. They were SANCTIFIED, they were HOLY. To use them for any other purpose would be to defile them and to insult God by using that which HE has claimed for HIS purposes for the purposes of mere humanity.
Perhaps in their eyes, or at least, for some of them However, it was God who established Moses’ authority.
You are right, one might. In her case, this is not true. However, even if it was, it is inappropriate to claim that you embrace a faith that you reject.
Every post Tweety makes that contains the word “Catholic” next to her affiliation is a public statement that she embraces a faith that she does not.
Trust me, Doki, Tweety is not weak.
No one has attacked Tweety. On the contrary, she disparages our faith every post where she claims unity with the Church.
No, I am sorry, I don’t. It seems to me that you are not able to trust God to keep HIs promises.
We are speaking of the Friday meat fast: once a sin to eat; then the rules change.
You seem to be forgetting the original Letters were written in the mid to late 1st century by eye witnesses (of one degree or another). Those letters were passed around and/or copies. It was a couple of centuries later that the Letters put agreed upon and up together in one Book.Another thought just occurred to me:
There was no Bible for the first 4 centuries of Christianity–that’s 400 years, folks!
That’s like the time from when the Pilgrims arrived on Plymouth Rock until approximately modern day.
When I think about that time frame, it’s *staggering *how long the Church existed without the Bible, relying only on Sacred Tradition.
(We are agreed that the Scriptures existed, but there was no one who codified the Scriptures to tell the Church: this is inspired, and this is not. That did not come for 400 years.)
Imagine this 400 years-- [SIGN1]from the time of the Pilgrims until present day[/SIGN1]–without the Bible! That really makes it real for me–what about you?
Sorry to say but that’s a very silly question and IMO, has nothing to do with it. Jesus said there is only One good and that’s not Mary, Joseph, you or I. He said it is God. I trust His understanding.
No one is asking you to, Tweety, although it is clear that your brain definitely needs some washing.
Persons who claim to be Catholic have an obligation to understand why the Church teaches what she does, and if they do not agree, assent that the Church is right, and seek by prayer, obedience, and study to be conformed to Christ’s image as manifested through the Church. At the very least, those having difficulty accepting the Teachings are to avoid public dissent, such as the kind you have demonstrated here. Public dissention by a person claiming to be Catholic is a grave insult. I feel sorry for you that you feel insulted. I’m wondering of a verse that said that Jesus ever was insulted. I think that is a human fleshly emotion. Just my opinion.
Most of us have had to accept one or more elements that we just don’t understand (yet). Peter and the 'Apostles did not understand what Jesus meant when He said “my flesh is true food” either, but rather than walk away from Him, Peter said “to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life”. We trust that the Word committed to the Church by Christ are the Words of Life, and we will not find them anywhere else. Look at the context of the Gospel of John: Jesus spoke metaphore after metaphore. That’s why the statements of Jesus about His Body and Blood are metaphorical in John 6. Those who left were correct if in fact Jesus meant to literally eat His Flesh and drink His Blood. It was forbidden to eat human flesh and drink human blood. No wonder critics of Christianity thinks Christianity is canabalistic. BTW, Jesus said His words were Spirit and Life. They are to be spiritually understood and they give life to the real hearer.
Tweety, Jesus is not going to give any one individual a special revelation that contradicts what He has already revealed to the Church. I believe you are sincere in your desire to discern the Truth, but the promise He made to lead into all Truth was given to the Church. Individuals can only benefit from it to the extent that they are in unity with the One Body. God never contradicts Himself or His word. That’s not in question here. The question here is whether your understanding of the church Jesus founded is correct. We all will probably find many suprises when we get to Heaven.
These type of comments are insulting. They imply that we do not study, and struggle, and examine all that we are told. It comes across really condescending. Especially from someone who does not appear to have ever studied the reasons behind the doctrines with which she disagrees. Do you mean to tell us you are insulting us when you tell us our understanding is incorrect? Are you being condescending when you tell us our doctrinal understandings are incorrect. Are you telling us we don’t study? Come on, Guanophore.
Do you really think it is a good representation of Jesus for you to present yourself as someone you are not? How does this glorify Him? How does insulting all the Catholics here by giving a bad example show love of your neighbors? How are you fulfilling the commands of Roman 14? You are not, IMO.
If you wish to pretend to be Catholic in your parish, that is between you and your pastor (and God, to whom you will answer for your duplicity). When you do it here on CAF, you malign the Church in public. You expose yourself to all to be held accountable for misreprenting yourself as well as the Church. Your church must not have broad shoulders. That’s precisely why Jesus built His church on His own shoulders. He is strong enough.
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In that case, it is inappropriate for you to claim to be Catholic. Your opinion; not necessarily God’s**.
Jesus was the one to coin the term, ‘born again’. So your problem is with Jesus not TweetyMom.Actually, keep praying Des. She has made progress. She first added “born again” to Catholic, which clarifies that she has a non-Catholic theology.
Next, she acknowledged that Catholics here consider her to be Protesant. We can hope and pray that she will continue on this path toward integrity, and that the word “Catholic” will one day be removed from her affiliaton.
You are right, one might. In her case, this is not true. However, even if it was, it is inappropriate to claim that you embrace a faith that you reject. She rejects some teachings. IMO, that’s quite different that rejecting a faith.
It would be like me claiming to be a Muslim, then giving out wrong information in almost every post about Islam, and affirming others who speak against Islam.
Every post Tweety makes that contains the word “Catholic” next to her affiliation is a public statement that she embraces a faith that she does not. She has doctrinal disagreements. If you leaves the CC it will be because you and others drive her away, IMO.
She is one of the toughest old birds you will ever have the pleasure to meet. Speaking of condescending and unkind. I’d say you should apologize to Tweetymom.
No on is attacking Tweety. We find her actions reprehensible. No, her actions are not reprehensible. BTW, it just occured to me, according to the definition of catholic, all who have called upon the Name of Lord (in a manner meant by the Holy Spirit) are part of the universal church, the Body of Christ.
No one has attacked Tweety. On the contrary, she disparages our faith every post where she claims unity with the Church. Your faith must not be solid if it is so easily disparaged. The Truth can’t be disparaged.
Dokimas, I said this in my post: