Purgatory......

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Could someone (catholic who knows) tell me about the process that the Church has of releasing a soul from purgatory? I can only guess that indulgences and the treasury of merit come into play. A little insight please.
Purgatory is full admission to temporal punishment die to sin.

Matt 12:32 Says anyone who says a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but no one who speaks against the HS will be forgiven in his world or the next. Jesus clearly shows us that there is forgivenes after death in the phrase IN THE NEXT. Forgivenss is not necessary as I have said in heaven, and it not possible in hell. So where does you teaching claim next is?

Indulgences, yes lets talk about inducgences prayers for the dead. Paul mentions people being baptise on the dead’s behal so the dead can be raised. Raised from where. They are not in heaven, no need to be raised from heaven, and no sins can be atoned for in hell so where are they?

You see you continue to mock the CC teaching of purgatory, but you have no answers for these scriptures. Why is that?
 
thru the Holy Spirit which is He.
Agreed. But where does scripture say that we were all left with the gift to teach and interpret scripture. Or where does ST teach that?

I have seen where scripture says we can’t ALL define scripture but missed the part where we all have that gift. Could you show me?
 
Because a lot of people do not believe in what you say.
But its not just what I say its the word of God. Did the word of God not say that the Church is One, That the Church is Holy, That the church is Catholic, and the Church is the teachings of Jesus Christ through the Apostles. How did these become just my words?
 
But its not just what I say its the word of God. Did the word of God not say that the Church is One, That the Church is Holy, That the church is Catholic, and the Church is the teachings of Jesus Christ through the Apostles. How did these become just my words?
I have never read in the Bible where the CC is the one true church. But if you believe thet then God Bless you on your journey. The Church i belong to is in my heart, Jesus.
 
But its not just what I say its the word of God. Did the word of God not say that the Church is One, That the Church is Holy, That the church is Catholic, and the Church is the teachings of Jesus Christ through the Apostles. How did these become just my words?
Do you believe in them? God Bless you if you do.
 
I have never read in the Bible where the CC is the one true church. But if you believe thet then God Bless you on your journey. The Church i belong to is in my heart, Jesus.
Did you miss reading MT. 16:18-19 and later He said in MT18:17-18 and where was it He said A church that was build in the 1500 is the true Church,tahs one I missed
Have a good day and remember Jesus dose love You
 
I have never read in the Bible where the CC is the one true church. But if you believe thet then God Bless you on your journey. The Church i belong to is in my heart, Jesus.
Oh yeah, try reading the second Vatian Councls decree on Ecumension. It explains it all quiet clear.

The church is one because of her source the highest exemplar and source of this mystery is the unity of the Trinity of Persons Of ONE God, the Father, S, H.S.

THe church is one because her founder for the word made flsh the pirce of peace reconciled all men to God by the Cross.

The Church is one because of her soul, It is the HS dwelling in those who believe and pervading and ruling over the entire Church who brings about the wonderful communion of the faithful and brings them together so intimately in Christ that he is the principle of the Church’s unity.

See, remember seeing all of that in the scripture. Bet you do!😃

Now thats our faith!!👍
 
Agreed. But where does scripture say that we were all left with the gift to teach and interpret scripture. Or where does ST teach that?

I have seen where scripture says we can’t ALL define scripture but missed the part where we all have that gift. Could you show me?
1 John2:27 But the annointing which ye have received of him that abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you; but as the same annointing teacheth you of all things, and what is truth and is no lie; and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
 
1 John2:27 But the annointing which ye have received of him that abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you; but as the same annointing teacheth you of all things, and what is truth and is no lie; and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Huh?:confused: This is saying that the Holy Spirit is what leads Christians to the Truth. 2:24 if you continue on reading says that Continuity with the apostolic witness as proclaimed in the prologue is the safeguard of the right belief.

Where does this say that we are gifted with the Holy Spirit to interpret scripture. IT says let what you heard from the beginning (which is the teachings of the Church either by word of Mouth or written) be with your forever, and do not let others turn you against the teachings of the Church.

This scripture is talking about certain gnostis that denied that the earthly Jesus was the Christ, to deny knowledge of the Son is to deny the Father since only through the Son has God been full revealed.

I do not see where any of this scripture is saying that we can define scripture without the teachings of the Church:confused:
 
Again we get our teaching from the church from the Imposition of hands as told in scripture.
First Tim. 4:14 That is how the gift of the Holy Spirit is given to teach by the imposition of hand of the presbyterate. We have a name for that It is Called Holy Orders. That is how the authority is given to them.
 
Again we get our teaching from the church from the Imposition of hands as told in scripture.
First Tim. 4:14 That is how the gift of the Holy Spirit is given to teach by the imposition of hand of the presbyterate. We have a name for that It is Called Holy Orders. That is how the authority is given to them.
HUH the authority is given to us by the Holy Spirit!
 
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You are so sily, rinnie!😃 The catholics didn’t give me the Bible; God did through His prophets and apostles!😛 Silly!
Who as history confirms are Catholics:D

HEAVEN, HELL AND PURGATORY
Pope John Paul II

Hell is the State of Those who Reject God

At the General Audience of Wednesday, 28 July 1999, the Holy Father reflected on hell as the definitive rejection of God. In his catechesis, the Pope said that care should be taken to interpret correctly the images of hell in Sacred Scripture, and explained that “hell is the ultimate consequence of sin itself… Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy”.
  1. God is the infinitely good and merciful Father. But man, called to respond to him freely, can unfortunately choose to reject his love and forgiveness once and for all, thus separating himself for ever from joyful communion with him. It is precisely this tragic situation that Christian doctrine explains when it speaks of eternal damnation or hell. It is not a punishment imposed externally by God but a development of premises already set by people in this life. The very dimension of unhappiness which this obscure condition brings can in a certain way be sensed in the light of some of the terrible experiences we have suffered which, as is commonly said, make life “hell”.
In a theological sense however, hell is something else: it is the ultimate consequence of sin itself, which turns against the person who committed it. It is the state of those who definitively reject the Father’s mercy, even at the last moment of their life.
Hell is a state of eternal damnation
  1. To describe this reality Sacred Scripture uses a symbolical language which will gradually be explained. In the Old Testament the condition of the dead had not yet been fully disclosed by Revelation. Moreover it was thought that the dead were amassed in Sheol, a land of darkness (cf. Ez. 28:8; 31:14; Jb. 10:21f.; 38:17; Ps 30:10; 88:7, 13), a pit from which one cannot reascend (cf. Jb. 7:9), a place in which it is impossible to praise God (cf. Is 38:18; Ps 6:6).
The New Testament sheds new light on the condition of the dead, proclaiming above all that Christ by his Resurrection conquered death and extended his liberating power to the kingdom of the dead.

Redemption nevertheless remains an offer of salvation which it is up to people to accept freely. This is why they will all be judged “by what they [have done]” (Rv 20:13). By using images, the New Testament presents the place destined for evildoers as a fiery furnace, where people will “weep and gnash their teeth” (Mt 13:42; cf. 25:30, 41), or like Gehenna with its “unquenchable fire” (Mk 9:43). All this is narrated in the parable of the rich man, which explains that hell is a place of eternal suffering, with no possibility of return, nor of the alleviation of pain (cf. Lk. 16:19-3 1).
The Book of Revelation also figuratively portrays in a “pool of fire” those who exclude themselves from the book of life, thus meeting with a “second death” (Rv. 20:13f.). Whoever continues to be closed to the Gospel is therefore preparing for 'eternal destruction and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might" (2 Thes 1:9).
  1. The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather* than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy. This is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes the truths of faith on this subject: “To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called ‘hell’” (n. 1033).
“Eternal damnation”, therefore, is not attributed to God’s initiative because in his merciful love he can only desire the salvation of the beings he created. In reality, it is the creature who closes himself to his love. Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever. God’s judgement ratifies this state.

We are saved from going to hell by Jesus who conquered Satan
  1. Christian faith teaches that in taking the risk of saying “yes” or “no”, which marks the human creature’s freedom, some have already said no. They are the spiritual creatures that rebelled against God’s love and are called demons (cf. Fourth Lateran Council, DS 800-801). What happened to them is a warning to us: it is a continuous call to avoid the tragedy which leads to sin and to conform our life to that of Jesus who lived his life with a “yes” to God.
Eternal damnation remains a real possibility, but we are not granted, without special divine revelation, the knowledge of whether or which human beings are effectively involved in it. The thought of hell — and even less the improper use of biblical images — must not create anxiety or despair, but is a necessary and healthy reminder of freedom within the proclamation that the risen Jesus has conquered Satan, giving us the, Spirit of God who makes us cry “Abba, Father!” (Rm. 8:15; Gal. 4:6).

This prospect, rich in hope, prevails in Christian proclamation. It is effectively reflected in the liturgical tradition of the Church, as the words of the Roman Canon attest: “Father, accept this offering from your whole family … save us from final damnation, and count us among those you have chosen”.

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