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to council you on how not to sin again, 5 To issue an appropriate penance [in place of your OT goat offering]. 6 with the words:" I ABSOLVE YOU FROM YOUR SINS, IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER; THE SON; AND THE HOLY SPIRIT."***twetymom and I have danced this song before, and she is a wonderful dancer, but always wants to lead
Friend, I have explained this multiple times before. At least twice in this string, but I’ll do it again just for you!
Catholics neither believe, teach or practice that “priest” forgive our sins. [Just had this dicussion with Ed earlier today.]
Here is how it actually works.
ALL of humanity has a specific role to do,
The Priest has a different and separate role, and God has the main role.
I would point out the “model” for the Sacrament of Confession, which as I will show, is both created and mandated by Jesus Himself, is based on Old Testament Practices.
** Lev.5:6 *****" and he shall bring his guilt offering to the LORD for the sin which he has committed, a female from the flock, a lamb or a goat, for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for him for his sin."
** 2Chr.29: 21 **" And they brought seven bulls, seven rams, seven lambs, and seven he-goats for a sin offering for the kingdom and for the sanctuary and for Judah. And he [GOD] commanded the priests the sons of Aaron to offer them on the altar of the LORD"
The Point here is that the idea of priest being not simply used BUT ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL AS SIN FORGIVENESS INTERCESSORS IS NOT NEW.
The role, mandate and responsibility of ALL humanity is to obey Christ and Confess there sins to a Catholic Priest. WHY? I know you dn’t want to hear this, so look it up;its still in your KJB!
** John.20 Verses 20 to 23**"When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send YOU! " Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
The role of the Catholic priest is 1. To hear your Confession of your sins. 2. Determine if you are truly sory for them? 3. To determine if you are committed [with God’s help] to avoid sinning this way again. [EX. if your sin is sex outside marriage and your living with your partner, your NOT sincerly committed to not so sinning again, and your sin will not be forgiven. [COLOR=“red”]4.
NOTE, He does NOT use the words “I FORGIVE YOU”! HOWEVER THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS!
THE ROLE OF GODis the actual forgiving of your sins that the priest has 1. petitioned God to do for you on your behalf. 2. Authorized God as Christ has mandated him to do, to actually forgive you your sins, which requires this specific process. READ Mt. 16: 18-19 for further evidence.
And friend, if Christ did not tell you [an all of us to go to Confession] what Bible are you reading? Its in mine and in the KJB.
PLEASE don’t say God didn’t mean it, God did not understand what He was mandating, or God was lying! READ WHAT IT SAYS! Then friend do it:thumbsup:
Why do people continue to use Old Testament scripture when speaking of confession and priests, because burnt offerings and sin offerings went out with the old covenant!
Hebrews 4:16 declares,“Let us boldly enter the throneroom of grace!” So you see, you have no need of a priest; you can approach God on your own(one on one). 1John1:9 says that if we confess our sins unto Him…" And He didn’t tell me to go see a catholic priest, either! Plus, Jesus told me and you not to cal any man on this earth Father!
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Sure, when Jesus was teaching and walking with His disciples, they were the recipients of His wise sayings and Commandments; but down through history, we have all learned from the parables and scriptures! The apostles are gone, so now each and every one of us is charged with"feeding the sheep!" So, as long as we have breath, we will continue to debate what scripture really means, relying heavily on guidance from the Holy Spirit!