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jakasaki
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Nice to see you back on the board Lothair!
I for one look forward to reading what you posts and your replies.
Best regards,
Pam
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I for one look forward to reading what you posts and your replies.
Best regards,
Pam
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Lothair
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I wondered into this and had to quote it in full:
‘The Prophet also once said: Allah, the Almighty, says: Whosoever does a good deed, will have (reward) ten times like it and I add more; and whosoever does an evil, will have the punishment like it or I will forgive (him); and whosoever approaches Me by one span, I will approach him by one cubit; and whosoever approaches Me by one cubit, I approach him by one fathom, and whosoever comes to Me walking, I go to him running; and whosoever meets Me with an earth-load of sins without associating anything with Me, I meet him with forgiveness like that. (Muslim)’
Notice that the prophet of Allah attributes these words to Allah Almighty, yet this does not appear in the Quran. Either Sahih Muslim is lying, Muhammad was lying, or the Quran is missing some verses.
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Do the agonies of death reduce a person’s sins? Does sickness reduce a person’s sins?
ans: …following fatwa issued by the late Saudi scholar Sheikh Muhammad Al-`Uthaymeen:
It makes no difference whether that is at the time of death or before. Calamities are expiation of sins for the believer. Allah Almighty says, “And whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. And He pardons much.” (Ash-Shura 42: 30)
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said, “Whenever a Muslim is afflicted by any hardship, whether it be chronic sickness, grief, harm, a disaster, or even a thorn prick Allah, will wash out some of his minor sins”
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Mary - United States
Do the agonies of death reduce a person’s sins? Does sickness reduce a person’s sins?
ans: …following fatwa issued by the late Saudi scholar Sheikh Muhammad Al-`Uthaymeen:
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Yes, every sickness, difficulty, worry, or distress that befalls a person, even the prick of a thorn, is an expiation for his sins. Then if he bears it patiently and seeks reward for that with Allah, in addition to the expiation of his sins he will be rewarded for the patience with which he bears the calamity that has befallen him.
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“It is because of what your hands have earned” indicates that it is an expiation for the things we have done.Related Questions
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- Not Every Calamity Is a Punishment
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In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful
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related verses :
And when my servants ask you concerning me, [tell them] I am indeed near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls. (Al-Baqarah 2:187)
And your lord said, invoke me and I will respond to your invocation. (Ghafir 40:60)
And when your Lord proclaimed, “If you are grateful, I will give you more.” (Ibrahim 14:7)
Say: "O Ibadee (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
( سورة الزمر , Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #53)
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Does it contradict with Quran ? In His final holy book , God repeatedly told us we will find Him merciful if we repent .
related verses :
And when my servants ask you concerning me, [tell them] I am indeed near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls. (Al-Baqarah 2:187)
And your lord said, invoke me and I will respond to your invocation. (Ghafir 40:60)
And when your Lord proclaimed, “If you are grateful, I will give you more.” (Ibrahim 14:7)
Say: "O Ibadee (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
( سورة الزمر , Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #53)
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Lothair
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Again, let me say that in the authentic traditions of Sahih Muslim you have words that are attributed to Allah. Those words are not found in the Quran, so somebody is lying. Either Muhammad lied about these being the words of ‘Allah Almighty’, or the collection of Muslim is corrupted, or the compilers of the Quran lied when they edited your prophet’s poetry. Wherever the lie originated, your repsonse is a clear admission that you have nothing important to add. Just randomly throwing out verses from the Quran is decidedly unconvincing.
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R_not
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I think it is easier for her to do that than to answer to islam’s koran. What I think she does is try to flood a page with her stuff so as to make responses to her disappear onto a different page thinking that many won’t go back to those pages to read how easily islam can be debunked.
I have seen this from her before. She ignores a lot and usually answers very little. So, I guess, in her mind that makes it easier for her to just stay as she is.
Some others will do a ‘hit and run’. They post and then they run away for a time so as not to have to answer anything that they don’t want to answer, or explain. The post eventually moves to another page and then they ‘hit and run’ again.
To me, all this rhetoric from her and some others, is not islam but a lot of ‘noise’ to detract from what islam really is about. This is probably how they get fools to revert to it - the fools don’t do any research into islam any further than all this rhetoric they plant. It is just more of the facade of islam.
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Lothair
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Mary:
Ther are a few things you overlooked, and I would like to add a few Hadiths to your comments. Muslims do indeed get easily forgiven for sin, and in fact, can sin *all they want *so long as they have asked for forgiveness on three separtate ocassions [Bukhari 598]. In fact, all Muslims need to do to get in heaven is not to 'worship anything besides Allah, not steal, and not commit illegal sexual intercourse." Pretty simple.
For Muslims, it gets even easier. Apparently, neither Adam, Abraham, Moses or Jesus may intercede for the dead. Only Muhamamd gets this honor [Bukhari 570] that was earlier given to the Daughters of Allah. It looks like Allah his angry with his daughters and replsced them with his lone prophet.
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jakasaki
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Lothair… she’s not going to answer. She’s too busy posting nonsense instead of Q&A and debate. All she does is posts from these websites over an over.
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Lothair
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It seems like she is using ‘dawa-ganda’ instead of discussing the topic. It is just like a Muhamamdan to think that posting spam will net some results. If she continues spamming the page, the moderators need to take some action.
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Lothair
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Muslim Woman:
All you are doing is spamming this page by cutting and pasting from other people’s websites. Is that all you have to offer?
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Daanyaal
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Hi everyone
Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum witnessed the rise of Islam in Makkah. He was amongst the first to accept Islam.
In this period, the Prophet, peace be upon him, was concentrating on the Quraysh notables and was eager that they should become Muslims. On one particular day, he met Utbah ibn Rabiah and his brother Shaybah, Amr ibn Hisham better known as Abu Jahl, Umayyah ibn Khalaf and Walid ibn Mughirah. He had begun talking and negotiating with them and telling them about Islam. He so much wished that they would respond positively to him and accept Islam or at least call off their persecution of his companions.
While he was thus engaged, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum came up and asked him to read a verse from the Qur’an.
“O messenger of God,” he said, “teach me from what God has taught you.” The Prophet frowned and turned away from him. He turned his attention instead to the prestigious group of Quraysh, hoping that they would become Muslims and that by their acceptance of Islam they would bring greatness to the religion of God and strengthen his mission. As soon as he had finished speaking to them and had left their company, he suddenly felt partially blinded and his head began to throb violently. At this point the following revelation came to him:
"He frowned and turned away when the blind man approached him! Yet for all you knew, (O Muhammad), he might perhaps have grown in purity or have been reminded of the Truth, and helped by this reminder. Now as for him who believes himself to be self-sufficientرto him you gave your whole attention, although you are not accountable for his failure to attain to purity. But as for him who came unto you full of eagerness and in awe of God, him did you disregard.
Nay, verily, this is but a reminder and so, whoever is willing may remember Him in the light of His revelations blest with dignity, lofty and pure, borne by the hands of messengers, noble and most virtuous."
(Surah Abasa 80: 116).
These are the sixteen verses which were revealed to the noble Prophet about Abdullah ibn Umm Maktumرsixteen verses that have continued to be recited from that time till today and shall continue to be recited.
From that day the Prophet did not cease to be generous to Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum, to ask him about his affairs, to fulfil his needs and take him into his council whenever he approached. This is not strange. Was he not censured by God in a most severe manner on Abdullah’s account? In fact, in later years, he often greeted Ibn Umm Maktum with these words of humility:
“Welcome unto him on whose account my Sustainer has rebuked me.”
Hope this helps
Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum witnessed the rise of Islam in Makkah. He was amongst the first to accept Islam.
In this period, the Prophet, peace be upon him, was concentrating on the Quraysh notables and was eager that they should become Muslims. On one particular day, he met Utbah ibn Rabiah and his brother Shaybah, Amr ibn Hisham better known as Abu Jahl, Umayyah ibn Khalaf and Walid ibn Mughirah. He had begun talking and negotiating with them and telling them about Islam. He so much wished that they would respond positively to him and accept Islam or at least call off their persecution of his companions.
While he was thus engaged, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum came up and asked him to read a verse from the Qur’an.
“O messenger of God,” he said, “teach me from what God has taught you.” The Prophet frowned and turned away from him. He turned his attention instead to the prestigious group of Quraysh, hoping that they would become Muslims and that by their acceptance of Islam they would bring greatness to the religion of God and strengthen his mission. As soon as he had finished speaking to them and had left their company, he suddenly felt partially blinded and his head began to throb violently. At this point the following revelation came to him:
"He frowned and turned away when the blind man approached him! Yet for all you knew, (O Muhammad), he might perhaps have grown in purity or have been reminded of the Truth, and helped by this reminder. Now as for him who believes himself to be self-sufficientرto him you gave your whole attention, although you are not accountable for his failure to attain to purity. But as for him who came unto you full of eagerness and in awe of God, him did you disregard.
Nay, verily, this is but a reminder and so, whoever is willing may remember Him in the light of His revelations blest with dignity, lofty and pure, borne by the hands of messengers, noble and most virtuous."
(Surah Abasa 80: 116).
These are the sixteen verses which were revealed to the noble Prophet about Abdullah ibn Umm Maktumرsixteen verses that have continued to be recited from that time till today and shall continue to be recited.
From that day the Prophet did not cease to be generous to Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum, to ask him about his affairs, to fulfil his needs and take him into his council whenever he approached. This is not strange. Was he not censured by God in a most severe manner on Abdullah’s account? In fact, in later years, he often greeted Ibn Umm Maktum with these words of humility:
“Welcome unto him on whose account my Sustainer has rebuked me.”
Hope this helps
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Muslim_Woman
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Welcome to the forum . Thanks for the explanation.
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Daanyaal
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Walaikum Salam, Muslim Woman.
May Allah/ God guide and bless us all. ameen.
May Allah/ God guide and bless us all. ameen.
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R_not
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What did it explain?
that mohammed got a headache and then thought it was from his allah because he was nasty to a blind guy?
I don’t understand where this is coming from.
Does this explain why mohammed, after he became powerful started to loot, enslave, kill, torture, etc. later on? Did he get a headache when he beheaded a town of men after he made a cease fire with them and broke it? And then enslaved the women and children? Tell me, did he get a headache for doing that and all the raids he afterwards?
Boy, he must have had a doozy of a headache!
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Lothair
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Surah 80 is an interesting read. First of all, this surah was compiled incorrectly from several smaller sermons. Take a look at verses 1-12, which speak of the blind man, then verses 13-16, which speak of ‘honored books’. After that, the topic of man’s creation is discussed in verses 17-23. Verse 24 begins a departure into the bounty of the harvest. At verse 33, another smaller sermon beigns on the topic of the Judgment, which takes us to the end of the surah. Obviously, the editors of the Quran should have done a better job at divinding the chapters.Hi everyone
Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum witnessed the rise of Islam in Makkah. He was amongst the first to accept Islam.
In this period, the Prophet, peace be upon him, was concentrating on the Quraysh notables and was eager that they should become Muslims. On one particular day, he met Utbah ibn Rabiah and his brother Shaybah, Amr ibn Hisham better known as Abu Jahl, Umayyah ibn Khalaf and Walid ibn Mughirah. He had begun talking and negotiating with them and telling them about Islam. He so much wished that they would respond positively to him and accept Islam or at least call off their persecution of his companions.
While he was thus engaged, Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum came up and asked him to read a verse from the Qur’an.
“O messenger of God,” he said, “teach me from what God has taught you.” The Prophet frowned and turned away from him. He turned his attention instead to the prestigious group of Quraysh, hoping that they would become Muslims and that by their acceptance of Islam they would bring greatness to the religion of God and strengthen his mission. As soon as he had finished speaking to them and had left their company, he suddenly felt partially blinded and his head began to throb violently. At this point the following revelation came to him:
"He frowned and turned away when the blind man approached him! Yet for all you knew, (O Muhammad), he might perhaps have grown in purity or have been reminded of the Truth, and helped by this reminder. Now as for him who believes himself to be self-sufficientرto him you gave your whole attention, although you are not accountable for his failure to attain to purity. But as for him who came unto you full of eagerness and in awe of God, him did you disregard.
Nay, verily, this is but a reminder and so, whoever is willing may remember Him in the light of His revelations blest with dignity, lofty and pure, borne by the hands of messengers, noble and most virtuous."
(Surah Abasa 80: 116).
These are the sixteen verses which were revealed to the noble Prophet about Abdullah ibn Umm Maktumرsixteen verses that have continued to be recited from that time till today and shall continue to be recited.
From that day the Prophet did not cease to be generous to Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum, to ask him about his affairs, to fulfil his needs and take him into his council whenever he approached. This is not strange. Was he not censured by God in a most severe manner on Abdullah’s account? In fact, in later years, he often greeted Ibn Umm Maktum with these words of humility:
“Welcome unto him on whose account my Sustainer has rebuked me.”
Hope this helps
That said, I want to focus on a few specific details. The ‘honored books preserved by noble and virtuous scribes’ 80:13-16]. How is it that your prophet held our copyists in such high regard yet modern Muslims apologists say the the Bible is corrupted?
Second, it is quite telling how eager your prophet was to get the noteables of the Quraysh to join him. It doesn’t matter at all that there was some later ‘revelation’ rebuking him. His reaction to an old blind man sheds a great deal of light into his character and motivation. Jesus healed lepers and raised the dead, Muhamamd went after political power.
There is more I could write, but I think shorter posts make better reading.
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R_not
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I think they show us what islam is truly all about. With planten, we see how one cannot keep up the deception - the truth about how islam ‘paints’ us eventually comes out. With muslim woman we see how she is desperately trying to hang onto something that just isn’t there and so tries to use all this flowering language to dupe the ones who don’t venture further into islam.
The thing about islam that I have become very aware of is that leaving islam is a bigger deal than if we left Christianity. It is indeed a death sentence to many, and at the very least they are exiled and left without family and friends - especially these two that we speak of.
And that death sentence isn’t a humane death either in too many instances. We are seeing an increased number of ‘honor killings’ because some become too ‘Westernized’ or for some other reason - and they don’t even leave islam, they just want some freedom that it offers. So, I suppose for ones like muslim woman - it is easier for her to get all ‘fluffy’, get rid of our posts off of a page, etc so as to stay right where she is - it is much safer for her.
This is why we should all pray for muslims.
The thing about islam that I have become very aware of is that leaving islam is a bigger deal than if we left Christianity. It is indeed a death sentence to many, and at the very least they are exiled and left without family and friends - especially these two that we speak of.
And that death sentence isn’t a humane death either in too many instances. We are seeing an increased number of ‘honor killings’ because some become too ‘Westernized’ or for some other reason - and they don’t even leave islam, they just want some freedom that it offers. So, I suppose for ones like muslim woman - it is easier for her to get all ‘fluffy’, get rid of our posts off of a page, etc so as to stay right where she is - it is much safer for her.
This is why we should all pray for muslims.
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Muslim_Woman
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Relations Between Muslims and Non-Muslims
By Dr. Sa
Professor at Al-Madinah Al-Munwwarah University
…The basic rule for relations between Muslims and non-Muslims is based on a few verses.
The first can be translated as, (We have not sent you (O Muhammad) except as a mercy for the worlds) (Al-Anbiya’ 21:107). This verse clearly assures that Islam is a mercy for all accountable beings, both humans and the Jinn.
Islam is a mercy because it guides Muslims to felicity and happiness in both this world and in the hereafter. But is Islam a mercy for only those who choose it as their faith or should Muslims force people to accept it? Here, the second verse comes to assure that (there is no compulsion in religion. The truth stands out clear from error) (Al-Baqarah 2:256).
Other verses that make up the basic rule specifically define the kind of relationship that should take place between Muslims and non-Muslims. The Qur’an says as follows:
(Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends (and ally) with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are wrong-doers.) (Al-Mumtahanah 60:8-9)
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Relations Between Muslims and Non-Muslims
By Dr. Sa
id Ismail SeeniProfessor at Al-Madinah Al-Munwwarah University
…The basic rule for relations between Muslims and non-Muslims is based on a few verses.
The first can be translated as, (We have not sent you (O Muhammad) except as a mercy for the worlds) (Al-Anbiya’ 21:107). This verse clearly assures that Islam is a mercy for all accountable beings, both humans and the Jinn.
Islam is a mercy because it guides Muslims to felicity and happiness in both this world and in the hereafter. But is Islam a mercy for only those who choose it as their faith or should Muslims force people to accept it? Here, the second verse comes to assure that (there is no compulsion in religion. The truth stands out clear from error) (Al-Baqarah 2:256).
Other verses that make up the basic rule specifically define the kind of relationship that should take place between Muslims and non-Muslims. The Qur’an says as follows:
(Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends (and ally) with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are wrong-doers.) (Al-Mumtahanah 60:8-9)
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Lothair
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The relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims can be summed up with a few verses:
*‘Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low’ *9:29].
This was one of the last verses revealed, when Muhamamd was lying in his death bed cursing Jews and Christians. Muslims have always understod that Islam was to abbrgate all other religions, and violence was a central tool for the Ummah that would follow. Here is a very credibly Tafsir on the topics in the verse.
Regardimg Q. 21:107, keep in mind that Muslims actually considering killing kufir as a mercy, not to the victim, but to the Ummah which was mercifully saved from infiltration form kufir.
There was no cumpulsion in religion; while Muhamamd was powerless in Mecca, and during his early years in Medina. In Mecca, he was a peaceful poet, though somewhat controversial. Once he had immigrated to Medina, the ‘Ansars’ were forcing their sons into Islam, so Muhammad put a stop to the coerced conversions [Q. 2:256]. After all, if the sons were forced, they might leave Medina and run off to fight with the Meccans. He would need those men if he was to carry out his plans for revenge.
Muslims can respect non-Muslims, but let’s understand what he details and limits are. I think we may have different definitions of ‘respect’.
Once the ‘People of the Book’ are conquered, they become a valuabe source for the Ummah. Their churches are generally not destroyed though no new churches can be built. Their clergy and relics are most often safe, unless there is even the *slightest *provocation, which of course the Muslims find at once. Also, Christian land owners were dispossessed of their lands, and only allowed to remain as tenant farmers, and on condition that they paid a heavy ‘jizya’ and agreed not to baptize newborn infants into Christianity, or proselytize to the Muslims. Doing so would, and still does, get Christians in very deep trouble.
I could go into more detail, from historical documents from the 18th and 19th centuries, but for now, I’ll let this brief post stand as it is.
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tomarin
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R_not, you have (uncharacteristically, I think) come up with the understatement of the year, given that the traditional punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. And that is something we can all agree should be condemned.
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