Qu'ran vs. The Bible

[George_Waters]

Yeah thats why a lot of muslims keep wishing Mohammad with ‘peace be upon him’ (pbuh). because nobody is sure what allah would to him. right, hamba?

I’ll bet you’re getting told where to go!

 

[George_Waters]

Although an agnostic your bias towards Islam is well documented on this board so your view is skewed.

Who are you addressing this to? You have made your bias toward Islam blatant on this thread.

 

[AgnosTheist]

Not even close the Bible took it in every category, paying a rape victims FATHER, not even the rape victim $50 then making her marry the man who raped her is infinitely more vile than saying it’s O.K. to hit your wife a little, and it’s just as much of a going forward command as what is in the Koran.

comparing 2 such incidents side by side, sure the bible policy is a lot more cruel. but i took into consideration the limitations and rate of occurrences. how many rapes are there compared to rebellious wives? and then how many jews are there compared to muslims? jews stick to themselves, while muslims convert everybody. thats how the koran rules over the bible.

Although an agnostic your bias towards Islam is well documented on this board so your view is skewed.

Only because I see that its more cruel than the bible. If my view is skewed then prove my bias. I am realistic, show me a real time application of the bible that beats the koran in real time in terms of violence.

 

[lukewarm]

Only because I see that its more cruel than the bible. If my view is skewed then prove my bias. I am realistic, show me a real time application of the bible that beats the koran in real time in terms of violence.

A brief advanced search of your username and the word “Islam” will return plenty of your bias. Me I"m faithless and actually indifferent to all religions and I think they’re all ridiculous. So I can look at each with a more opened mind.

 

[AgnosTheist]

A brief advanced search of your username and the word “Islam” will return plenty of your bias. Me I"m faithless and actually indifferent to all religions and I think they’re all ridiculous. So I can look at each with a more opened mind.

Yeah i’m biased, but its not unfounded. Lets just reason together. Im not afraid to admit my faults

 

[George_Waters]

A brief advanced search of your username and the word “Islam” will return plenty of your bias. Me I"m faithless and actually indifferent to all religions and I think they’re all ridiculous. So I can look at each with a more opened mind.

If you are indiffrent to all religions, why are you here?

If you already think religion ridiculous then you are not open minded.

Be careful now or you will show your biass.

 

[Rocky]

Judges 11:39:

“At the end of two months she returned to her father, who did to her according to the vow which he had made; and she had no relations with a man. Thus it became a custom in Israel”

(he vowed to sacrifice as a burnt offering the next person to walk through his door, this turned out to be his daughter).

Oh Lukewarm, you know you are not being honest here—you know that you are editing the text to make it seem that sacrificing children became a custom in Israel. Shame, shame on you!

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

I judge off of what I have available, and to call me a liar for no good reason IMO makes you an indecent person. Sorry if that bothers you, but it definitely doesn’t show a good side of you.

lukewarm; Although I never called you a liar, I do have an opinion untowards your claim. It’s a free world. And I’m entitled to an opinion.

I’m happy to repeat my opinion; I don’t believe that you have read the Qur’an from cover to cover. If my opinion means I’m calling you a liar and makes me indecent, so be it. It doesn’t bother me. What does bother me is the teapot calling the kettle black. Do you suppose that a contest looking for the worse of two books, with a disregard to context, is decent? To put it bluntly, do you suppose that you are decent?

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

If you know the Bible 4:157 Is also repeated in John. They are referring to the Zionist or Jews. Jesus said they are nothing but liars and thief’s. They have no right to claim to be a descendants of Abraham. The zionist do not have any claim to Palestine according to the Qu’ran and the Bible. The Muslims and Catholics have lived in peace for years before the zionist showed up. Israel is a false country and still supports slavery. They know nothing about the concept of human rights. The zionist are just a false teaching and have taken land which is not theirs to take. They have persecuted both the Catholics and the Muslims. They promote prostitution and strip search both Catholic and Muslim girls. We need to stand united against the zionist evil.

Hi RickD1950,

Qur’an 4:157 denies the crucifixion of Christ. (I regard that as the worst verse in the Qur’an because it goes against history). You’re kidding yourself if you think that is a message repeated in the bible.

As for the rest of your post, it is off topic from the thread, so fortunately I can ignore it. Maybe you should start a new thread in the Skinheads and KKK forum.

 

[Montalban]

LOL what you wrote made no sense, I proposed a very simple proposition and you come back with nonsense about logical fallacies. I can’t stand it when dimwits use words like to quoque and “red herring” because they are too scared to engage. If you don’t want to play find another thread.

For starters, when you call people dimwits for using tu quoque, it helps if you don’t call it to quoque

So again very simple, give me the worst Surah in the Qu’ran and I’ll find ten ones in the Bible that put it to shame.

Which is a tu quoque argument!

This thread is merely to show the few anti-Islamic propagandaists on this board (two of the worst are in this thread), that if they can argue by cherry picking Surah’s it’s only fair if people are able to do the same about the Bible. You can’t use two sets of standards, it’s not right.

But you say there’s two sets; you’ve not been able to show this. I’ve challenged you to show this, say with regards the beating of wives. And you back down right away.

I can hear clucking already

 

[Montalban]

But this is the Bible vs the Koran, not the NT vs the Koran.

That’s a flaw in the challenge because both religions don’t view their books the same way.

 

[Montalban]

IMO, the real cause of Christian disagreement with Muslim beliefs is that Christians just cannot bring themselves to accept that it is God Himself who will send people to the Hellfire.

That’s right! We don’t believe that a God of love will do this.

*Knowlegeable Muslims *on the other hand have no problem at all accepting that God is indeed the Greatest Terrorist there is.

A bit of a tautology, but never-the-less if you want to believe in a god who deceives, and who is cruel, that’s up to you.

 

[Montalban]

thats a mighty big insult to human intelligence. a lot of people dont even believe in hell.

This thread is not about “What people in general believe”

 

[Montalban]

Since people send themselves to Hell, we can also say that viruses do not kill people.

Not quite. If you take no action when you’re sick, you could be said to have allowed yourself to die. And this would be a better analogy

Instead, it is people who allow themselves to be killed by viruses.

If you compare a virus to sin, then we Christians take steps to have a cure - unless we choose to live in sin. And we suffer from the consequences of sin

 

[Montalban]

Not even close the Bible took it in every category, paying a rape victims FATHER, not even the rape victim $50 then making her marry the man who raped her is infinitely more vile than saying it’s O.K. to hit your wife a little, and it’s just as much of a going forward command as what is in the Koran.

Each of your points was met, in turn. Instead of dealing with that you switch back to ‘rant’ mode.
Lukwarm:

Although an agnostic your bias towards Islam is well documented on this board so your view is skewed.

Even if someone were biased, that doesn’t negate what they’ve said here… you’ve not been able to show that.

 

[lukewarm]

lukewarm; Although I never called you a liar, I do have an opinion untowards your claim. It’s a free world. And I’m entitled to an opinion.

I’m happy to repeat my opinion; I don’t believe that you have read the Qur’an from cover to cover. If my opinion means I’m calling you a liar and makes me indecent, so be it. It doesn’t bother me. What does bother me is the teapot calling the kettle black. Do you suppose that a contest looking for the worse of two books, with a disregard to context, is decent? To put it bluntly, do you suppose that you are decent?

I’m more decent than you I think, I tend to think the best of people not immediately suspect the worst in the, I certainly don’t suspect people when they’ve given no good reason for it. To me that is kind of a crazy way to view people…

 

[Montalban]

A brief advanced search of your username and the word “Islam” will return plenty of your bias. Me I"m faithless and actually indifferent to all religions and I think they’re all ridiculous. So I can look at each with a more opened mind.

:bowdown:

 

[lukewarm]

Not quite. If you take no action when you’re sick, you could be said to have allowed yourself to die. And this would be a better analogy

If you compare a virus to sin, then we Christians take steps to have a cure - unless we choose to live in sin. And we suffer from the consequences of sin

Met in turn LOL, we aren’t reading the same topic I think…

 

[lukewarm]

:bowdown:

Now you’re learning, bow down *****…

 

[Montalban]

I’m more decent than you I think, I tend to think the best of people not immediately suspect the worst in the, I certainly don’t suspect people when they’ve given no good reason for it. To me that is kind of a crazy way to view people…

Yet you have decided, for no apparent reason, that a lot of Christians are hypocrites.

When pressed, you’ve gone back into rant mode or backed away from reasoned discussion.

Agnotheist met your points one by one. I have challenged you to meet me on any one issue - I nominated the beating of wives, as one, but that was a mere suggestion.