Regarding if Jesus is God

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Oh yes, I see that now. Perhaps you might wish to begin RCIA classes. It may help your knowledge of the bible and how it applies to Catholicism.

By the way God is with a capital G.
 
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Luke.1 Verses 26 to 37

[26] In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,
[27] to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.
[28] And he came to her and said, “Hail, O favored one, the Lord is with you!”
[29] But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and considered in her mind what sort of greeting this might be.
[30] And the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
[31] And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus.
[32] He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High;
and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David,
[33] and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever;
and of his kingdom there will be no end.”
[34] And Mary said to the angel, “How shall this be, since I have no husband?”
[35] And the angel said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you,
and the power of the Most High will overshadow you;
therefore the child to be born will be called holy,
the Son of God.
[36] And behold, your kinswoman Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son; and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren.
[37] For with God nothing will be impossible."
 
garycouch said:
There has been a lot of argument regarding if Is Jesus is God,I will like to hear your opinion and facts ?
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I am not sure where you have been hearing this argument.

Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the second Person of the Blessed Trinity, true God and true man.
 
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Wrong. Jesus (the son) is not the father.
Wesrock said:
God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All three are co-eternal, co-equal in majesty, co-equal in power. All three are the creator. God is one essence, undivided.
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Wesrock said:
God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All three are co-eternal, co-equal in majesty, co-equal in power. All three are the creator. God is one essence, undivided.
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Obedience is one of those words that never sounds like fun. It feels like an obligation, like something we have to do but doesn’t seem very fun. We often doubt the motives of those asking us to obey, or we think that our way would surely be better. Jesus set the ultimate example for how we should live, and as we study His life obedience sticks out most of all. He had full authority over heaven and earth (Colossians 1:16), yet He fully submitted to the Father’s authority and fully obeyed God in everything.
 
TheTrinitySaves said:
Wrong. Jesus (the son) is not the father.
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Wesrock:
God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All three are co-eternal, co-equal in majesty, co-equal in power. All three are the creator. God is one essence, undivided.
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Jesus is not the Father. And everything I wrote is true. I don’t think you understand the concept of the Trinity: one God who is three persons. Here is the Athanasian Creed.
Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.
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Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.
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Wesrock:
God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All three are co-eternal, co-equal in majesty, co-equal in power. All three are the creator. God is one essence, undivided.
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Obedience is one of those words that never sounds like fun. It feels like an obligation, like something we have to do but doesn’t seem very fun. We often doubt the motives of those asking us to obey, or we think that our way would surely be better. Jesus set the ultimate example for how we should live, and as we study His life obedience sticks out most of all. He had full authority over heaven and earth (Colossians 1:16), yet He fully submitted to the Father’s authority and fully obeyed God in everything.
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In his humanity, yes.
 
Nope, The son also obeys the father in his heavenly state as well.
 
You know, you just keep repeating the same thing. That is not a way to prove your point. But it is true, you do not understand the Trinity.
 
I Disagree, I don’t think its Hersey to proclaim that the son is perfectly obedient to the father while being co equal in his divine nature. Thats the nature of the father son relationship. I respect your position and I don’t appreciate you saying that I won’t make it to heaven if I believe that the son is obedient to the father
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The Trinity is one mind, not three minds, and one will, not three wills. There is no submission in the Trinity. Again, you misunderstand what we profess.
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@TheTrinitySaves

What you’re professing is not the Catholic faith or Trinitatianism. It is in fact anti-thetical to it.
 
Irishmom2 said:
You know, you just keep repeating the same thing. That is not a way to prove your point. But it is true, you do not understand the Trinity.
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Quote me scripture where the son disobeys the father or where he is permitted to do so.
 
TheTrinitySaves said:
Quote me scripture where the son disobeys the father or where he is permitted to do so.
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The Son cannot disobey the Father because they’re the same God, not because He’s perfectly obedient to the Father. God cannot reject or disobey Himself.
 
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TheTrinitySaves said:
I Disagree, I don’t think its Hersey to proclaim that the son is perfectly obedient to the father while being co equal in his divine nature. Thats the nature of the father son relationship. I respect your position and I don’t appreciate you saying that I won’t make it to heaven if I believe that the son is obedient to the father
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Wesrock:
The Trinity is one mind, not three minds, and one will, not three wills. There is no submission in the Trinity. Again, you misunderstand what we profess.
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I was quoting the Athanasian Creed, not saying anything about your salvation. This isn’t something the Catholic Church is iffy or undecided on. What you’re professing is in direct contradiction of it.
 
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