Rep Joe Kennedy III Speaks Out For All Americans

[7_Sorrows]

Raxus:

The vast majority of those people were not Nazis. That word is quickly losing all meaning in the regressive left’s attempt to paint everyone with whom they disagree with it.

HCTC noted that Nazi’s marched in Charlottesville. She did not say that everyone there was a Nazi. She did not say that everyone there that she disagreed with is a Nazi. I am not sure that anyone has ever said that.
Can you identify some one who has said that?

That is what most were trying to insinuate at the time it happened. Yes, even those here at CAF.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Raxus:

HCTC noted that Nazi’s marched in Charlottesville.

She would be incorrect.

It seems as if you want to engage in a semantic discussion of the term “nazi.” While I think words are important and that it is good to define terms in order to promote understanding, what is material in this instance is not so much the meaning of the word “nazi” as it relates to a specific historical instance in Germany - but rather the brotherhood that the group in Charlottesville clearly presented themselves to have with the very virulent expression of nazism that came to fruition in nazi Germany.

Who diverted the thread to Charlottesville
and Nazis?
The topic is about the speech last night
by Kennedy III.
If you want to engage a conversation about Nazis, start a new thread.

 

[dvdjs]

That is what most were trying to insinuate at the time it happened. Yes, even those here at CAF.

I diasagree, but could be persuaded by documentation.

 

[dvdjs]

The regressive left incorrectly calls people ‘Nazis’ " is a good example.

You have not demonstrated the truth of anything.

 

[dvdjs]

Nobody has said the exact words as such, but have done so in so many. Here’s a HuffPo writer

Nobody. Good.
And the huff po writes says: imagine. Glad this is in that realm.

 

[HCTC]

Who diverted the thread to Charlottesville

and Nazis?

The topic is about the speech last night

by Kennedy III.

If you want to engage a conversation about Nazis, start a new thread.

Threads often meander away from the original topic. This one is no exception. In my opinion, in the name of freedom of speech some topic deviation should be indulged. But you should feel free to redirect it back to the speech Joe Kennedy gave by commenting on the speech.

 

[Raxus]

the brotherhood that the group in Charlottesville clearly presented themselves to have with the very virulent expression of nazism that came to fruition in nazi Germany.

I think you are gravely incorrect in this assessment, and to conflate racists with actual murderers is intellectual dishonesty of the highest order.

 

[Raxus]

You have not demonstrated the truth of anything.

“The people at at the Charlottesville march were not Nazis” is in itself an objectively true statement.

 

[Raxus]

Nobody. Good.

Plenty have insinuated or tacitly endorsed the idea.

And the huff po writes says: imagine. Glad this is in that realm.

Whatever. I lead the horse to water. Drink or not as you will.

 

[HCTC]

the brotherhood that the group in Charlottesville clearly presented themselves to have with the very virulent expression of nazism that came to fruition in nazi Germany.

I think you are gravely incorrect in this assessment, and to conflate racists with actual murderers is intellectual dishonesty of the highest order.

“(Vatican Radio) The Vatican’s permanent representative to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe has marked ‘Holocaust Remembrance Day’ with an appeal to never forget the lessons of the past.

“At a OSCE Permanent Council meeting, Msgr Janusz Urbanczyk said: ‘the Holocaust teaches us that utmost vigilance is always needed to be able to take prompt action in defense of human dignity and peace.’

“Quoting from Pope Francis who said that the cruelty that was perpetrated in the Nazi stermination camps is still around today, Urbanczyk said ‘the International Holocaust Remembrance Day should (…)help us to ‘go beyond evil and differences’, and open every possible pathway of peace and hope in our world of today.’”

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/201...ches_us_that_vigilance_is_always_need/1288576

Maybe you would like to continue this discussion on this thread. I think 7 Sorrows would appreciate that…

Holy See: Holocaust teaches us that vigilance is always needed World News

At a OSCE Permanent Council meeting, Msgr Janusz Urbanczyk said: “the Holocaust teaches us that utmost vigilance is always needed to be able to take prompt action in defense of human dignity and peace.” The Secretary of the Pontifical Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, Fr. Norbert Hofmann, was present at the meeting. In an interview with Vatican Radio (in Italian), he said the Pope “began the dialogue by mentioning the importance of this Day for the Jews, but also for us, be…

 

[dvdjs]

conflate racists with actual murderers

One of the Charlottesville racists did kill a person there.

 

[dvdjs]

“The people at at the Charlottesville march were not Nazis” is in itself an objectively true statement.

It is unrelated to what you had been asked to prove, having claimed it to be “demonstrably true”.
Also as a proposition on its own is its truth is unclear since the subject is not quantified - all some, three, … people at Charlottesville …

 

[SuperLuigi]

A lot of folks on the left are all about how things look. Nothing like a straight white male with the last name Kennedy to do the trick.

And I’m sure a lot of people in the homey heartland are going to buy right into it given some of the poll numbers (even if they are off a bit).

Guess I better clear out my message inboxes again for the inevitable “surprised” “didn’t think it could happen” “but they promised”.

Oh, and the usual criticism I get for not just shutting up and going on to get along.

 

[Sy_Noe]

The same could be said when Sarah Huckabee Sanders and others say the American people chose Donald Trump. Most of the American people actually did not. I know DJT does not speak for me.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

The people “chose” Trump according to the rules of the Electoral College. I don’t think anyone has ever argued that he speaks for everyone, though, especially since you can’t turn on a news broadcast without somebody disagreeing with him.

 

[Theo520]

Even though he seemed nervous at first, I think he did a very good job overall, including his strong statement that the Dems are strongly supporting the Dreamers.

Yea, the Dem rank and file should be concerned about that.
They are spending their political capital on people that aren’t even citizens
ignoring the needs of their actual constituency.

 

[JanSobieskiIII]

The democrat party literally cares more about non citizens than citizens.

 

[Road-Worrier]

Protecting human life is a traditional Catholic value. Single payer healthcare, climate change, and all the other “social justice “ values are the usurpers.

 

[JanSobieskiIII]

Saw this on Facebook. Rolling with laughter.

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[JonNC]

HCTC:

Maybe you have a comment on the content of the speech?

Nothing particularly noteworthy about it.

It was noteworthy for its reiteration of the constant and obnoxious, hate filled intersectionality.

Folks, it would be easy to dismiss this past years chaos. Partisanship as politics, but it is far, far bigger than that. This administration is not just targeting the laws that protect us, they are targeting the very idea that we are all worthy of protection. For them, dignity is not something you are born with, but something you measure by your net worth, your celebrity, your headlines, your crowd size. Not to mention, the gender of your spouse, the country of your birth, the color of your skin, the God of your prayers. their record has rebuked our highest American ideals, the belief that we are all or the, we are all equal, that we all count in the eyes of our laws, our leaders, our God, and our government. That is the American promise.

This is pathetic demagoguery