Rep. Paul Ryan now supports gay adoption

[Prodigal_Son1]

How has that type of rhetoric been working out? When you attack and insult people through words my experience has been that their minds snap shut.

 

[rlg94086]

Really? No one discussed the middle East, the war, the economy, social security, healthcare, immigration, taxes, etc. etc.?

Well, conservatives certainly didn’t, right? I mean we are all “one issue” voters, right?

 

[rlg94086]

It’s called “cognitive dissonance”

 

[rlg94086]

What a hoot this is! All the Democrats are surrounding Ryan like a pack of wolves. Sometimes a deer has to be bleeding before a person can see the wolves emerge from the woods. But emerge they do.

Ryan was finished as a national candidate in November, 2012, but I guess he’s symbolic for the left of all they hate, and particularly because he’s Catholic. But there are still only four prolife democrats in the Congress according to NARAL and only four pro-abortion Repubs according to them. And the prolife Dems are shrinking in number as are the pro-abort Repubs. The Democrats are still the party of abortion and homosexual marriage, almost without exception. And their supporters are the supporters of abortion and the profanation of marriage every bit as much as Obama is, and every bit as much as the abortion “doctor” himself is.

Democrat apologists continue in counseling despair to prolife, pro-marriage people. as I have said before, it reminds me of nothing so much as the “Agony in the Garden” scene in “The Passion of Christ” where Satan tempts Jesus to despair…“You can’t save them. No man can do it.”

And it’s the very same temptation to the sin of despair and the very same scandal.

I’m not a Republican. Never have been. But I am not so stupid as to see the evil in the Democrat party of today; a party of which I was once a very active part. The only way to oppose them is to support their opponents. Perhaps those who oppose the paganism of the Democrat party will not win everything with any one candidate or any group of candidates. But the moral imperative to oppose the profoundly evil is still there.

Don’t be fooled by the counselors to despair. There are plenty of them, including on CAF. If all Catholics voted against the Party of Death in even one election, the Dem party would have to change. Until that happens, it won’t. it will get worse and worse. It thinks you all support abortion and homosexual marriage as much as it does, or at least that your moral fibre is so weak that you will even give them a pass when (as with the HHS mandate) they order Catholic nuns to provide contraceptives and abortifacients for themselves. Now that they have officially endorsed abortion and homosexual “marriage” and begun acting to force it on even Catholic nuns, do you really think they’re finished?

Don’t give them a pass. Ryan isn’t the issue. The evil of the Democrat party and its leaders is the issue.

Yep.

 

[rlg94086]

How has that type of rhetoric been working out? When you attack and insult people through words my experience has been that their minds snap shut.

Example A from someone who provides plenty of rhetoric and insults in opposition to Republicans.

 

[Cider]

That’s because Obama was a nod-and-a-wink supporter of traditional marriage. Gay rights advocates knew he was on their side. Catholic Democrats probably knew too, but a lot of them oppose the Church on such issues, so they didn’t care.

So true, in fact I had Dems tell me that exact same thing during his first election.

 

[livingwordunity]

So all we have to do is all vote Republican and that will fix this problem permanently? I don’t think the women are going anywhere. If there are no Democrats they will be coming after the Republicans. The Republicans can be easily bought too. Duh!

Can be bought is not the same as sold.

 

[rlg94086]

So all we have to do is all vote Republican and that will fix this problem permanently? I don’t think the women are going anywhere. If there are no Democrats they will be coming after the Republicans. The Republicans can be easily bought too. Duh!

How did your choice in the general election do? Have your third party folks “fixed” anything yet? No? Duh!!

 

[ProVobis]

Can be bought is not the same as sold.

I’d counter that with a little bit of history but then I would get attacked for bringing up sensitive material from the 60’s and 70’s. There is nothing magical in the Republican Party that would detract women. If there were no Democratic Party, they’d simply break up the Republican Party. Oh, wait…

 

[GaryTaylor]

Ryan didn’t say much of anything really. You could read that completely Catholic also. As far as making his Catholic view more acceptable politically I suppose we’ll see. That’s always been an issue for Catholic politicians. As you see some don’t do well with it. I doubt we’ll see to much wavering with Ryan. That would surprise me.

 

[BroomWagon]

I’d counter that with a little bit of history but then I would get attacked for bringing up sensitive material from the 60’s and 70’s. There is nothing magical in the Republican Party that would detract women. If there were no Democratic Party, they’d simply break up the Republican Party. Oh, wait…

Oh, don’t think that info is so sensitive? Really, an offhand conversation on abortion the day after the SCOTUS ruled on the Supreme Court??

Really to this again, if one is going to get down to that, the Democrats are supporting Infanticide and they support it through Planned Parenthood.

People are for life, it seems to speak volumes that the only way out here is to try to make it a Partisan issue ignoring at the same time, Democrat Abortion Radicals savage the likes of Paul Ryan and anyone else who speaks up for the sanctity of life. Read any democrat newsoutlets for those who trod out trying to equate the 2 parties, thus effectively being anti-life in doing it.

If pro-lifers are voting for Personhood in Oklahoma or supporting Rand Paul’s personhood legislation, they see this as constructive, period.

Rep. Hyde’s Hyde amendment meant fewer abortions but those who make this as a bipartisan issue have to point out, “Oh, it didn’t stop all abortions” while all the while, supporting a party that is indeed, supporting the worse through late term abortions, funding planned parenthood, even an agency that has spoken up for infanticide, pretzel logic.

That is sensitive of which we never hear a counter argument.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Correct, I don’t know too many Democrats who are “one issue” voters as Conservative Republicans seem to be.

If you are referring to abortion as ‘one issue’ that many conservatives put first before other issues like tax, how is that a bad thing? It is not wrong to put the sanctity of life before other lesser issues. Foundation of Catholic social teaching is sanctity of human life.

1. Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia…

ewtn.com/library/CURIA/cdfworthycom.htm

 

[rlg94086]

If you are referring to abortion as an ‘one issue’ that many conservatives put first before other issues like tax, how is that a bad thing? It is not wrong to put the sanctity of life before other lesser issues.

Exactly. I’m sure that Publisher wouldn’t support candidates who supported rounding up Africans and using them for slave labor. That sort of “one issue” is the sort of moral outrage that is worth denying that candidate your vote.

…but I guess I really shouldn’t bring up Democratic Party history…

 

[_Abyssinia]

Exactly. I’m sure that Publisher wouldn’t support candidates who supported rounding up Africans and using them for slave labor. That sort of “one issue” is the sort of moral outrage that is worth denying that candidate your vote.

…but I guess I really shouldn’t bring up Democratic Party history…

If an elected official can not be trusted on seeking to protect and preserve innocent human lives then how can their judgment be trusted on other issues?

 

[rlg94086]

If an elected official can not be trusted on seeking to protect and preserve innocent human lives then how can their judgment be trusted on other issues?

Exactly. And, when great moral evil is involved - slavery, genocide, infanticide, etc. - that issue takes greater precedence. Those who ignore such evil and actually try to take a holier-than-thou approach in combatting those who oppose it are endangering their souls.

 

[oldcelt]

Example A from someone who provides plenty of rhetoric and insults in opposition to Republicans.

If you are referring to me Robert I think you really should look at my posts. I cannot think of a single instance where I have resorted to terms like baby-killers, Party of Death, etc. or referred to the GOP as evil.

 

[rlg94086]

If you are referring to me Robert I think you really should look at my posts. I cannot think of a single instance where I have resorted to terms like baby-killers, Party of Death, etc. or referred to the GOP as evil.

Of course not. You use other rhetoric and insult…a kinder, gentler rhetoric and insult.

 

[meltzerboy]

If you are referring to me Robert I think you really should look at my posts. I cannot think of a single instance where I have resorted to terms like baby-killers, Party of Death, etc. or referred to the GOP as evil.

Well get with the program then, oldcelt. Didn’t you know that name-calling, like patriotism, is the last refuge (or bastion) of a scoundrel?

 

[oldcelt]

Well get with the program then, old celt. Didn’t you know that name-calling, like patriotism, is the last refuge (or bastion) of a scoundrel?

I think I’ll stick with the kinder, gentler “insults.”

 

[rlg94086]

I think I’ll stick with the kinder, gentler “insults.”

Yes…the holier-than-thou approach seems to suit you better.