Republican convention

[estesbob]

If our own party’s Nurse Ratched didn’t frighten from the stage, we have Romney campaign lawyer and strategist Benjamin Ginsburg orchestrating totalitarianism from behind the curtains. He has been called a bête noire of the Tea Party, but he’s really just a lawyer – the very kind of lawyer that Clint Eastwood was talking about.

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Couldn’t have said it better Karen!

I suspect you didn’t provide a link because you were embarrassed it came from lewrockwell.com

 

[meltzerboy]

That’s all well intentioned but it sounds rather naive, like something out of a Frank Capra movie, especially given that the Republicans have rewritten the rule book to favor the coronation of “conservatives” like Mitt Romney - in other words, anyone or any interest (see Citizen’s United) who is capable of buying an election. In November, you will be doing no more than giving your approval to one of the oligarchy’s two preselected candidates (both who happen to have pro-abortion, anti-constitution, big-government records).

In think Karen Kwiatkowski had it right when she wrote recently in “What I Saw at the Convention” that:

I spent a day of my life at the 2012 Republican Convention. The plan was to stay for full four days, but the choreographed and staged “decision-making” made the 2,000 plus delegates irrelevant. Republican Party members hoping to see democracy in action were left staring at a fuzzy gray screen, listening to static, beating their heads against padded white walls. No free man would subject himself to such idiocy. As Doug Wead so delightfully put it, the party has been reduced to “ten fat men sitting in a room.”

One of these fat men is John Sununu. Watching him on Tuesday afternoon steamroll the wishes of half of the delegate floor, and destroy what was left of the integrity of the GOP, I was strongly reminded of Nurse Ratched running the floor at the Salem State Hospital. In One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Ratched dominates her fiefdom sternly, with her contempt for her charges oozing with her every smirk, and every command. This evil queen saw criminality in a raised eyebrow, revolution in a meek request for equality. Punishment for dissenters would be quick, overwhelming, and comprehensive. John Sununu’s totalitarianism was on display, and his goal seemed obvious: the literal and figurative lobotomy of the constitutional and liberty movement within the party.

As with the Salem State Hospital, the world of the RNC convention, the world of ten fat men, their sycophants and enablers, is a small place, removed from natural law, and removed from the reality of America. This is the real blessing – we can and are walking away. Millions of us are literally and figuratively walking away from the kabuki theater of neoconservative statism posing as a popular problem solving. We can do this!

If our own party’s Nurse Ratched didn’t frighten from the stage, we have Romney campaign lawyer and strategist Benjamin Ginsburg orchestrating totalitarianism from behind the curtains. He has been called a bête noire of the Tea Party, but he’s really just a lawyer – the very kind of lawyer that Clint Eastwood was talking about.

Romney’s advisors include all manner of warfare-welfare statists. I’m not naming all the names here, but I think the flat and poorly received speech by head neoconservative statist John McCain said it all. The GOP media, notably on talk radio, carefully avoided all mention of McCain after his dismal and eye-darting display of war promotion as republicanism. If he isn’t the original Manchurian Candidate, he’ll certainly do.

The ten fat men in the room rarely get up in front of the people, and they certainly don’t take questions. The convention speakers were instead front men and women, and except for Clint Eastwood, all heavily scripted and controlled. I have one thing to say about the presentations given by the array of bright, handsome, pretty, clean and coiffed “conservative” speakers paraded before the podium for four days. They didn’t build that! The lack of passion in the speeches, and the restrained audience response to them, indicated that they knew that none of them really owned the message. That’s how democratic centralism works.

Observers, attendees, and the media frequently noted that the convention wasn’t all that fun. It certainly wasn’t entertaining. It lacked positive energy, and the attempted decapitations of the liberty wing of the party fostered a generalized anxiety, rather than loud cheering around the cage. The “two will enter, one will leave” mentality engineered by the ten fat men seemed instead to result in a ragged fracturing of the GOP, with too many people recognizing that we can’t do this.

The liveliest presentation of the four days was Eastwood’s own act on stage, a dash of honesty and fearlessness that boldly slapped the GOP establishment as evenhandedly as it slapped the Obama administration. He had an RNC vetted speech – and he chucked it. This simple act of nullification sent waves of fear and anger throughout the establishment controllers. I don’t know if they lobotomize 82 year olds, but I imagine the thought crossed Nurse Sununu’s mind. I’ve no doubt the Romney team was assessing its medical options in real time as Clint charmed and educated those watching.

This convention convened nothing and decided nothing. Onerous security, unhealthy and overpriced concession food in the Forum, the moment-by-moment scripting of the convention speeches, and the pervasive fear of the liberty and constitution segment of the crowd is what we will remember. Ten fat men in a room built that.

These devils dancing on the head of a pin ultimately amount to very little. What these men built isn’t good, doesn’t work, and won’t sell. Their so-called conservative message – saving welfare programs to be paid for by unborn Americans, fighting wars on the other side of the world on borrowed money, cutting imaginary out-year federal budgets and calling that constitutional government – is falling flat.

When in a rare moment over the four days we heard about a flawed monetary policy, the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution – cheers roared out. Oh, wait. Flawed monetary policy, our shredded natural rights, a trashed Constitution were not discussed from the stage – the best the ten fat men could do was suggest we might be able to balance the budget in 27 years (Ryan’s “plan”) and point out that “everything was free but us” – and then go on to the next topic before we could really think about what that means, and what the GOP’s position really is on that lack of liberty.

Real people are the majority – let’s start with the 23 million men and women in this country who want to work and produce and currently cannot because the government is in the way, or the 100 million who don’t vote because Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumber offer no real change, or the 200 million who deeply cherish their children and grandchildren. We matter, we count, and ultimately we do rule. We built it, we can do it, and ten fat men in a room better stay out of our way. The Democratic Party establishment has their own ten fat men in a room, and we know they won’t have Ron Paul on stage either. The GOP establishment clearly has no idea how to restore the Republic, and these bureaucrats are not interested in learning how.

Happily, that’s our job and we started without them years ago. The anachronistic statist party they built, like an old factory that would not adapt to technological and market reality, will be boarded up and lights out within a decade. If there is one thing I learned at the 2012 GOP Convention, it is that the liberty movement is vibrant, fearless, and unstoppable.

Couldn’t have said it better Karen!

I too generally agree with Karen’s assessment of the political scene today. OTOH, I also think Juliane has a good point. Life often imitates art and, in some ways, can be a Frank Capra movie.

 

[eightandsand]

I think I could have. How about a link? Who is this person?

Here it is: lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski288.html

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

That’s right. I am inventing my perception and am totally biased against Eastwood and his fantastic presentation.

I think posters who read my posts know that I am no ideologue. I can call a spade a spade when I see it, no matter where it comes from.

With all due respect, ringil, one only has to read a few of your posts to know you are in the tank for the Democrat Party.

 

[eightandsand]

I suspect you didn’t provide a link because you were embarrassed it came from lewrockwell.com

What a ridiculous comment. Yeah, I’m sure that’s the reason estesbob. Boy, you are a negative fellow.

By the way, I just provided the link.

From what I have read, I find nothing “embarrassing” about lewrockwell.com.

You should be “embarrased” for your rush to an ulterior motive for my not providing the link.:tsktsk:

 

[_Abyssinia]

Romney got a 6 point bounce and is now leading Obama by 3 points on Rasmussen

rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

She’s a Libertarian. The article quoted is here:
lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski-arch.html

I found her assessment accurate, if not edgy. The only reason I pay attention to the GOP anymore is because they are the only party I think that has a chance at being saved from the brink of oblivion. The Tea Party demonstrated that the GOP is willing to listen to non-conformist voices if they yell loud enough. The DNC is beyond all hope.

 

[meltzerboy]

Romney got a 6 point bounce and is now leading Obama by 3 points on Rasmussen

rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

This will most likely bounce back after the DNC. I think the debates will be the most critical factor in the election. And, of course, turnout.

 

[ByzCathCantor]

Nothing uncharitable about it. It is a rather mild way to describe corruption. It is no more uncharitable than a term like “robber baron.” Calling that kind of utterance uncharitable, given that there are genuine uncharitable terms and phrases out there, is rather disingenuous and a form of uncharity towards the English language.

The most effective advocates for any position never have to resort to such. They can make their points intelligently, decisively and in charity.

That said, there was a lot of charity exhibited at the RNC. It will be interesting to see if a more civil discourse can continue.

 

[_Abyssinia]

This will most likely bounce back after the DNC. I think the debates will be the most critical factor in the election. And, of course, turnout.

Maybe. Turnout from the base matters, it is not just swing voters

 

[ishii]

It was a nasty rant by an obviously nasty person. I have no interest in knowing who she is.

Not worth your time, rlg. She was a Libertarian (capital L) until recently and lost huge in the GOP primary for congress. She of course supported Ron Paul. Maybe she would feel better if she got over it and supported the pro-life, conservative ticket of Romney/Ryan.

Ishii

 

[eightandsand]

I think the debates will be the most critical factor in the election. And, of course, turnout.

Couldn’t agree more. In an election as close as this one, where polls seems to change in realtime and seem to be extremely sensitive to the current media narrative, and where image seems to matter more than substance, I think the debates will end up being the deciding factor.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Couldn’t agree more. In an election as close as this one, where polls seems to change in realtime and seem to be extremely sensitive to the current media narrative, and where image seems to matter more than substance, I think the debates will end up being the deciding factor.

Ryan debating Biden

Excited for Obama and Romney debate each other, because Obama is going to be on the defence considering he is the incumbent and he is going to have to defend his policies in a poor economy

 

[eightandsand]

It was a nasty rant by an obviously nasty person. I have no interest in knowing who she is.

Translation: you know she is telling the truth, you know that she is not nasty, but you just don’t like it. Poo-poo.

 

[gilliam]

This will most likely bounce back after the DNC. I think the debates will be the most critical factor in the election. And, of course, turnout.

There are not that many undecided voters if we believe the polls. I agree there will be another counter-bounce after the DNC convention. There almost always is. But we will also be after Labor Day, and the undecided voters will be slowly making their choices.

Chances are one of the candidates will pull away from the other in September.

 

[ByzCathCantor]

I think the debates will be the most critical factor in the election. And, of course, turnout.

That should be the case in the normal course. We’ll have to see if that holds true this time around.

 

[gilliam]

Translation: you know she is telling the truth, you know that she is not nasty, but you just don’t like it. Poo-poo.

Her article has a lot of name calling in it. I would say that it is “nasty” no matter if you agree with what she says or not.

 

[qui_est_ce]

Nothing uncharitable about it. It is a rather mild way to describe corruption. It is no more uncharitable than a term like “robber baron.” Calling that kind of utterance uncharitable, given that there are genuine uncharitable terms and phrases out there, is rather disingenuous and a form of uncharity towards the English language.

Every one is entitled to their opinion. I personally found the rant full of tired old talking points. There was Mayor Love, Condoleeza Rice, Ann Romney, and others. They were certainly not “ten fat men.”

As with the Salem State Hospital, the world of the RNC convention, the world of ten fat men, their sycophants and enablers, is a small place, removed from natural law, and removed from the reality of America. This is the real blessing – we can and are walking away. Millions of us are literally and figuratively walking away from the kabuki theater of neoconservative statism posing as a popular problem solving. We can do this!

Really? This person really sat at the RNC? They must have had on their blinders, because I didn’t see any of this at all.

I saw articulate and vibrant speakers, young and old, black and white, Latino, women and men. I saw energy.

I see the left making fun of old people (Clint Eastwood, John McCain), asking if there were anything but blond women. You know, because there WERE WOMEN, so they have to find another tactic. Bimboize them.

Why doesn’t the left address the many points made there rather than character attack?? Why? Do they have anything cogent to say except you are liars, you are old?

What happened to being charitable, compassionate, caring?

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

What a ridiculous comment. Yeah, I’m sure that’s the reason estesbob. Boy, you are a negative fellow.

By the way, I just provided the link.

From what I have read, I find nothing “embarrassing” about lewrockwell.com.

You should be “embarrased” for your rush to an ulterior motive for my not providing the link.:tsktsk:

I give up posting from LewRockwell. People here are just not open to reading anything cited from it. However, I was a rabid establishment GOPer just 4 years ago. I used to flame down lewrock myself, calling them a bunch of nutbag potheads. Then I actually startedreading folks like Gary North, Tom Woods, Thomas DiLorenzo, and Lewellyn Rockwell himself. They in turn lead me to the likes of Murray Rothbard, Fredrich von Hayek, and Ludwig von Mises. The more I read, the more I understood that the power structure of the GOP and DNC are less concerned about serving the people who voted for them, and more about paying back the people who funnel money and power into their pockets. I began to understand that it wasn’t unions that I despised, but rather the bosses like Richard Trumpka and Andy Sterns, who use the DNC to openly promote and push for communism.

 

[eightandsand]

Ryan debating Biden

Excited for Obama and Romney debate each other, because Obama is going to be on the defence considering he is the incumbent and he is going to have to defend his policies in a poor economy

They are both uninteresting and unexciting. The only excitement may come if Biden has a psychotic episode on stage.