Republican Primary

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I’m not really sure why people have this fascination with Rick Santorum, his voting record is absolutely appalling:

redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/

Voted to double size of the Department of Education
Voted for Medicare part D
Voted for budgets that included funding for Planned Parenthood
Voted to raise the debt ceiling on five different occasions
**Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy. **
Endorsed Pro-Choice Arlen Specter over Pro-Life Pat Toomey

His constituents thought so highly of him that they threw him out of office with him losing by over 18% of the vote. I just don’t see how he is able to fool so many into thinking that he is a “small government conservative” when nearly all his votes INCREASED the size of government.
 
Santorum fortunately will never get the nomination.

And Gingrich…well besides his super nutty ideas, I can’t see Callista as FLOTUS. I mean really.

But right now I believe Romney has the best chance of helping Obama slide into his second term. I look forward to the upcoming months.
 
No matter what happens, the Republican party failed to put up a strong candidate against Obama. The Republican debates and the long drawn out campaign process have hurt any chance the Republican party for election.
 
…on the fence…
If you have an economic and social conservative ideology, either one is good. Santorum was very strong in the last debate in Florida. He seems less likely to equivocate than Gingrich and more likely to practice his social conservative principles, which come from the heart. However, Gingrich has bolder ideas, more of a track record of accomplishment, and is more of a seasoned politician altogether, though perhaps a little too seasoned. Either one is preferable to Romney, in my view, and can successfully debate and campaign against Obama. Full disclosure: I’m a liberal Democrat but have no fear of Romney.
 
No matter what happens, the Republican party failed to put up a strong candidate against Obama. The Republican debates and the long drawn out campaign process have hurt any chance the Republican party for election.
I disagree since I think the outcome of the general election mainly depends on the state of the economy in a few months.
 
I disagree since I think the outcome of the general election mainly depends on the state of the economy in a few months.
I disagree because the GOP has had its hand on Romney since 2008. He’s not as divisive, and he is able to pull in the fence sitters. He’s also a complete tool and I don’t trust him anymore than Obama. Less, actually. At least I can sorta gauge where Obama is heading with things.

I’ll likely vote Santorum in the primary as a giant “screw you” to the GOP, but I’m not voting in the general election because Obama isn’t even eligible to begin with and it’s a sham.

I don’t see a Republican win no matter what.

2012/2013 will begin a new era in America which will be increasingly socialist, increasingly violent, and increasingly anti-Christian and anti-conservative Judaism.
 
No matter what happens, the Republican party failed to put up a strong candidate against Obama. The Republican debates and the long drawn out campaign process have hurt any chance the Republican party for election.
Sure. Give up before you get started. 😛

The Republican Party still has a great chance in November.
 
If you have an economic and social conservative ideology, either one is good. Santorum was very strong in the last debate in Florida. He seems less likely to equivocate than Gingrich and more likely to practice his social conservative principles, which come from the heart. However, Gingrich has bolder ideas, more of a track record of accomplishment, and is more of a seasoned politician altogether, though perhaps a little too seasoned. Either one is preferable to Romney, in my view, and can successfully debate and campaign against Obama. Full disclosure: I’m a liberal Democrat but have no fear of Romney.
At one point, I thought you said you liked Romney, and he was the only Republican candidate you even considered. Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly. :confused:

Either way, your full disclosure is appreciated. I take liberal Democrat’s opinions and figure the opposite is probably true, so I’m expecting Romney to beat Obama. 😃
 
No matter what happens, the Republican party failed to put up a strong candidate against Obama. The Republican debates and the long drawn out campaign process have hurt any chance the Republican party for election.
The long process between deciding whether it should be Hillary Clinton or Obama in 2008 people said would lower their chances of election, but many said the long process made Obama a ‘‘stronger’’ candidate.

The long process for the Republican candidates is probably a good thing to prepare the eventual nominee - they are going be going up against super negative, class warfare president in Obama and they need to be as prepared as possible.
 
It was reported on twitter:

Gingrich shows up an hour late to half-empty Latino town hall & cuts his speech short - 7 min.
 
Thomas Woods (author of “How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization”) recently weighed in on this:

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cu2xaEd2cmU
Well, I certaintly agree with Mr. Woods’ assertion that we are Catholics first, and Americans second.

Although, I do want to point out, that in earlier periods of American history, our ancestors strived to portray themselves as Americans first and Catholics second. Obviously when Catholic immigrants first came here. But, also during WWII, when Catholics might have been seen as supportive of Mussolini or Franco in Spain… if they hadn’t been so pro-American at the time.

Of course, it was probably easier to be “pro-American” then. America was a different country, a country we could be proud of. I believe it is Pat Buchanan who says it isn’t wrong for Americans to not be proud of their country anymore. The country and society changed, and left behind a lot of decent faithful Catholics.
 
Ok… Romney wasn’t completely out for me (and I like Ron Paul, I do agree with him on several issues, but he is out right now for me). I am just having the hardest time figuring out who to vote for… there is a difference, in my opinion, between who would be the best president and who would be the best Republican candidate, since the latter has to win against Obama… I am trying to figure out who I want to be the candidate… but of course I want the best candidate that will be the best president… Oy, I’ve sitting watching debates on Youtube, and wanted to see if you guys could help me out.
 
At one point, I thought you said you liked Romney, and he was the only Republican candidate you even considered. Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly. :confused:

Either way, your full disclosure is appreciated. I take liberal Democrat’s opinions and figure the opposite is probably true, so I’m expecting Romney to beat Obama. 😃
I may have said I liked Romney–I really don’t remember–because I thought his views are more moderate than the others and because I considered him more electable (putting on my conservative face). But that was before I heard him express those views in a whole bunch of platitudes, and before I realized just how out of touch with middle-class and working-poor Americans he is. I was also listening hard to Paul for a time, until I realized he’s also out of touch with the modern world, no matter how noble and sincere his libertarian ideas may be. Now I’m favoring Gingrich despite his political baggage. We need someone who can turn around the economy, and I don’t believe Romney, for all his business experience, or any of the others, have much of a clue. I’m even considering voting for Gingrich should he become the GOP nominee. More disclosure: I did not support Obama in the democratic primaries, but Hillary. However, I voted for Obama in the general election since I regarded McCain as semi-psychotic. I want a good race and think Obama should earn re-election, not be handed it by an inferior Republican candidate.
 
What’s interesting is that Ron Paul’s campaign stops are reporting that people are lined up, and packed standing room only to hear him speak.
 
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