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Santorum’s officially closed out Missouri and Minnesota, decisively.

Minnesota:
1.) Santorum 45%
2.) Paul 27%
3.) Romney 17%

Romney’s 3rd place finish puts him behind Ron Paul by double digits, and losing to Rick Santorum by almost a 3-to-1 margin.

Missouri:
1.) Santorum 55%
2.) Romney 25%
3.) Gingrich 15%

Also of note, Rick Santorum won a majority in every single district in Missouri.

Romney is crushed by 30 points - his margin of defeat exceeding his entire vote count.

Colorado (with 26% reporting):
1.) Santorum 44%
2.) Mitt Romney 28%
3.) Gingrich 15%

Another double-digit loss for Romney, this one particularly devastating in a state the media and his campaign told us he was going to win.

Interesting. Supposedly Mitt Romney was the best choice for the nomination because he was going to deliver those swing-states easily with his “electability.” Looks like all that was all just a ball of myths from the Romney campaign and his supporters in the media.

No matter how well Romney polls in California or New York or Massachusetts those states aren’t in play in the general election for the Republican nominee, so Mitt’s appeal to those kinds of voters are useless outside of the primary. Meanwhile the ability to pull in the “purple” states of the Southwest and Midwest are what the last 3 election cycles have hinged on. This seems to be Rick Santorum’s wheel-house, even on a shoe-string budget without a super-funded Super-PAC running hate-ads against the other candidates.
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Well, during this campaign season, I chose to give my money to Newt Gingrich, but tonight I found myself giving my prayers to Rick Santorum.

I prayed for voters in Minnesota, Missouri, and Colorado to vote for Santorum somewhere between 6 and 10 times… I would say that every practicing Catholic at least subconsciously supports Rick Santorum…

And, IF Rick Santorum does win Colorado… he’s ahead right now. That would mean he’s 3 for 3 tonight. That would be huge. Possibly, Possibly huge enough to get Newt Gingrich to drop out.
 
mlund said:
Santorum’s officially closed out Missouri and Minnesota, decisively.

Minnesota:
1.) Santorum 45%
2.) Paul 27%
3.) Romney 17%

Romney’s 3rd place finish puts him behind Ron Paul by double digits, and losing to Rick Santorum by almost a 3-to-1 margin.

Missouri:
1.) Santorum 55%
2.) Romney 25%
3.) Gingrich 15%

Also of note, Rick Santorum won a majority in every single district in Missouri.

Romney is crushed by 30 points - his margin of defeat exceeding his entire vote count.

Colorado (with 26% reporting):
1.) Santorum 44%
2.) Mitt Romney 28%
3.) Gingrich 15%

Another double-digit loss for Romney, this one particularly devastating in a state the media and his campaign told us he was going to win.

Interesting. Supposedly Mitt Romney was the best choice for the nomination because he was going to deliver those swing-states easily with his “electability.” Looks like all that was all just a ball of myths from the Romney campaign and his supporters in the media.

No matter how well Romney polls in California or New York or Massachusetts those states aren’t in play in the general election for the Republican nominee, so Mitt’s appeal to those kinds of voters are useless outside of the primary. Meanwhile the ability to pull in the “purple” states of the Southwest and Midwest are what the last 3 election cycles have hinged on. This seems to be Rick Santorum’s wheel-house, even on a shoe-string budget without a super-funded Super-PAC running hate-ads against the other candidates.
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Santorum really kicked butt! Where does this put the delegate count?
 
Semper_Zelare said:
And, IF Rick Santorum does win Colorado… he’s ahead right now. That would mean he’s 3 for 3 tonight. That would be huge. Possibly, Possibly huge enough to get Newt Gingrich to drop out.
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I don’t know if Newt would consider dropping out just yet, but I think he should seriously consider doing so. He’s been steadily losing ground in the daily polls while Santorum has been gaining.

I was pulling for Newt even before he got into the race, but at this point I think it would be best if he dropped out and endorsed Santorum.

Rick Santorum: “Conservatism is Alive and Well”
c-span.org/Events/Rick-Santorum-Conservatism-is-Alive-and-Well/10737428057-1/

Addressing supporters at the St. Charles Convention Center in St. Charles, Missouri, Santorum said that “tonight was a victory for the voices of our party, conservatives and the tea party.”
 
Semper_Zelare said:
And, IF Rick Santorum does win Colorado… he’s ahead right now. That would mean he’s 3 for 3 tonight. That would be huge. Possibly, Possibly huge enough to get Newt Gingrich to drop out.
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The real question is whether it is huge enough to finally put a stake in the heart of the Romney “electability” and “inevitability” myths. The whole argument of Romney being the guy to pull the swing votes was always implausible considering the winner-take-all nature of the Electoral College. His appeal on the Left Coast never mattered. His New England and Manhattan appeal never mattered. The swing-states are the Southwest and the Rust Belt, decided largely by the ability to turn out the conservative base and Reagan Democrats, groups that Romney fails to inspire but Rick Santorum has strong traction with.

Hence Rick Santorum smashing Romney in Minnesota, Missouri, and Colorado.

Man, when the tax returns come in I think I’m going to put up the donation money to get me a sweater vest.
  • Marty Lund
 
Hm, somehow in the shift from 43% to 51% of reporting Romney just switched up form a 15 point deficit to a dead-heat. Looks like Colorado’s district reporting will keep us guessing for a while yet.

Looking at the precinct maps it looks like Romney got lifted by reports in from around Denver and up along the Utah boarder (heavy LDS territory) while Santorum dominates the rest of the precincts. A lot hinges on a few more urban precincts and a lot swath of rural and suburban precincts that have yet to be counted.
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onmyknees said:
Go Rick!!! 52 and 53% in polls!
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Rick is just another big government Republican.

Rick is a domestic and foreign interventionist.

Rick takes an unconstituitonal, federalist, status-quo approach to the issue of legal abortion and therefore gaurantees that abortion will be legal for a very long time. The federal interventionist approach that Rick preaches, will be used by Democrats time and time again to neutralize any short-term gains.

Rick ENDORSED the pro-death Arlen Specter over the pro-life Pat Toomey in 2004 over a “supreme-court nominee deal” that Arlen Specter is on the record stating never took place. Either Santorum or Specter is lying and this issue needs to be resolved before a potential liar is elected to the White House. Rick Santorum’s endorsement of Arlen Specter gave President Barack Obama the deciding Senate vote to pass Obamacare, yet nary a peep from the elders in the “pro-life” movement over this. But I guarantee you that those of us in the trenches of the pro-life movement in Pennsylvania will not forget how Rick stabbed us in the back. We will also not forget how Rick Santorum ENDORSED the pro-death Christine Todd Whitman, nor will we forget that from 1995 through 2006, Rick Santorum VOTED 10 times to fund Title X and International family planning services, including Planned Parenthood, which directly funded contraceptives and indirectly funded abortions. When you get right to it, it appears that Rick Santorum has always been more pro-Santorum than pro-life, endorsing pro-choice candidates whenever doing so seemed good for his political career.

For all of Rick Santorum’s rhetoric, when it comes down to his voting record he is much less pro-life and pro-constitution and pro-conservative than Ron Paul. Right now, at this very moment, abortion is legal in ALL 50 states and there is no real, lasting, constitutional solution in sight if you look to men like Rick Santorum. Yet, had conservatives followed the lead of men like Ron Paul who are strict constitutionalists and have a consistent record to prove it, there is a very good chance that abortion would be illegal in many of our 50 states as I write this, and many more lives saved than under the strategy of a Santorum.

When it came to the Iraq War, Rick Santorum stood on the wrong side of history rather than standing with Pope John Paul II and numerous Cardinals (Cardinal Ratzinger included) and Archbishops and other officials who made it very clear that Iraq was nowhere near being a Just War. Instead, Rick listened to George Weigel, Michael Novak and the Neocons and supported that unconstitutional, unjust and uneccessary war in Iraq.

It appears that Rick Santorum has also been pushing for a war with Iran for some time. In 2005, Santorum sponsored the Iran Freedom and Support Act, which appropriated $10 million of U.S. taxpayer dollars for the purpose of regime change in Iran. I have a suggestion for Rick: instead wasting more American blood and treasure, Rick, why don’t you renounce your U.S. citizenship, become an Israeli citizen, and join the IDF. Or, at the very least, you could end your Presidential campaign and instead of spending all that energy on warmongering here, you could move to the Middle East and become a devoted member of the Iranian Resistance.
 
Whew Rick Santorum Wins Colorado!!!

(yes… I had to watch CNN to learn this first apparently…)
 
:clapping: I’m very glad Rick won tonight. No make that ecstatic. :extrahappy: If I thought God was a registered Republican, I might even pray for more Santorum wins in the Republican primary. So I was thrilled but I watched his speech and he kept referring to Missouri in one sentence as “Missoureeee” and in the next as “Misouraaaa”. I suppose he was just trying to pacify both sides of the state though. And he kept refering to Obama as not listening to the American people as if the conservative voters in Republican contests tonight were somehow solely representaive of the American people. But I suppose it plays well with the base.
 
CMatt25 said:
:clapping: I’m very glad Rick won tonight. No make that ecstatic. :extrahappy: If I thought God was a registered Republican, I might even pray for more Santorum wins in the Republican primary. So I was thrilled but I watched his speech and he kept referring to Missouri in one sentence as “Missoureeee” and in the next as “Misouraaaa”. I suppose he was just trying to pacify both sides of the state though. And he kept refering to Obama as not listening to the American people as if the conservative voters in Republican contests tonight were somehow solely representaive of the American people. But I suppose it plays well with the base.
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Well… FULL DISCLOSURE: I now have a note that quoted your post, and I saved it as “If Santorum wins, Cmatt eats these words”.

SO, supposing we have a President Santorum… you sir will rue the day.

So… here’s to hoping :irish1::coffee: That seems to be as close as I can get to toasting with the smilies… Irish coffee, if you get my drift.
 
Colorado at 100%

Santorum 40%
Romney 35%
Gingrich 13%
Paul 12%

Not even a clean sweep of Mormon country could put Romney over the hump.
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Caldera said:
I don’t know if Newt would consider dropping out just yet, but I think he should seriously consider doing so. He’s been steadily losing ground in the daily polls while Santorum has been gaining.

I was pulling for Newt even before he got into the race, but at this point I think it would be best if he dropped out and endorsed Santorum.
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Yes it would help the conservative cause against Romney if he only had one opponent in upcoming races.
 
rlg94086 said:
Santorum really kicked butt! Where does this put the delegate count?
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As I undertood it, Missouri didn’t choose delegates based on the primary. It was nothing more than a non bindng preference straw poll. They will have a separate caucus to choose delegates later. Romney made little if any effort there is what I heard. I also heard Santorum put more effort in Minn than Mitt. Mitt still has a war chest of dough.
 
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