Republican Primary

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Scott_Lafrance said:
I like Pat. Solid Catholic credentials, great at articulating points, out of the box thinker. Fired by MSNBC, so he must be doing something right.
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Agreed. I won’t hold the fact that they ever hired him the first place against him.
 
LisaA said:
The “Stimulus” was not supported by any Republicans as I recall.
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They just passed a rest-of-the-year “Stimulus” (tax cuts, unemployment extension, Medicare payments to doctors) without much opposition from either party.

Must be election time. 🙂
 
SamH said:
Agreed. I won’t hold the fact that they ever hired him the first place against him.
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Pat has always been first and foremost a journalist. Maybe he was working there to try to create some contrast perspective. However, the leftist zombies over their just wanted to eat his brains, not pay attention to what was actually in them. 🤷
 
ProVobis said:
They just passed a rest-of-the-year “Stimulus” (tax cuts, unemployment extension, Medicare payments to doctors) without much opposition from either party.

Must be election time. 🙂
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Speaking of which, didn’t the Republicans give us Medicare Part D? You know, the biggest expansion of entitlements since social security?
 
Ridgerunner said:
Failure to oppose evil = failure to oppose evil.
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How is prayer and fasting a failure to oppose evil?

I plan on fasting and abstaining (aside from Sundays) every day of Lent this year as a oblation for the direction of this country.
 
_Abyssinia said:
I do not agree. If you do not vote for the Republican nominee that means one less vote, and that gives Obama an advantage.
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I’ll try to talk a Democrat Catholic out of voting for Obama. Then the scales will be balanced back to zero.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Or do i need to remind you of the bipartisan support of TARP, NDAA, the Patriot Act, Ben Bernanke, The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, the invasion of Iraq, etc… 9 GOP Senators voted for Sotomayor, 5 for Kagan.
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Especially strange were the votes AGAINST Ben Bernanke. Who would have expected the likes of Senators Jim Bunning, Barbara Boxer, Bernie Sanders, and 20 others would ever be passionately fighting against the same thing?

Too bad it wasn’t abortion as well. 🙂
 
bbarrick8383 said:
Bush had Solyndra on the list as well. They just ran out of time, how unfortunate.
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You are dead wrong! Yes Solyndra applied for loans and was turned down by the Bush Aministration because of the unlikely prospect it would be able to repay them. Once Obama got into office he hustled through this and a number of other 'green energy red ink" projects.

I agree, the federal government has NO ROLE in providing capital and picking winners and losers in business. OTOH if such a program exists, that the Bush administration recognized the risk to the taxpayers and turned down the loan is the best that one could hope for. Obama OTOH doubled down and spread green bucks to repay political donors and other associates. His administration had zero concern about the taxpayers’ money.

Lisa
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Speaking of which, didn’t the Republicans give us Medicare Part D? You know, the biggest expansion of entitlements since social security?
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Repubs sure did, along with congressional Dems, but I question whether it was a bigger expansion than:
-Medicare
-Medicaid

Potentially, it might be, but I don’t see how anyone could be sure. One of the oddities about Part D is that it’s potentially a time bomb in the same sort of way SS was, but even harder to figure out. Supposedly, Seniors pay a premium for Part D, and they do. There is a “base premium” that everybody pays. But if the senior is already on some medication when he applies, the cost of that medication is his “premium”, which comes out of his SS benefit. Now, if he later requires more meds or something, supposedly his premium stays the same. But he has a $310 deductible until he reaches $2800 in deductibles and copays, then he pays 50% up to $4550.

I don’t pretend to fully understand the thing, but it’s pretty strange and it’s hard to know how much the government is really going to spend on medications, particulary since meds go out of patent, and what might cost $500/month today could cost $50 tomorrow.

It is also my understanding that Part D is handled through insurance companies. And, I’m not sure either whether the Obamacare control of insurance extends to that as well. Could be it just won’t cover the $1,000/month cost of the costliest meds, and people might be forced to alternatives that cost less.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
How is prayer and fasting a failure to oppose evil?

I plan on fasting and abstaining (aside from Sundays) every day of Lent this year as a oblation for the direction of this country.
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Good to fast and pray. Bad to fail to exercise one’s franchise to directly oppose evil. If you saw somebody about to strangle another, and if you had a sufficient weapon to prevent it, do you really think you would be exercising your full moral duty by pocketing your weapon and praying?
 
Ridgerunner said:
Good to fast and pray. Bad to fail to exercise one’s franchise to directly oppose evil. If you saw somebody about to strangle another, and if you had a sufficient weapon to prevent it, do you really think you would be exercising your full moral duty by pocketing your weapon and praying?
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If opposing evil means voting Republican then we are nothing but slaves to a political machine. Do with me what you will master GOP politician, just please vote pro-life and I will always check the box by your name as you command.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Repubs sure did, along with congressional Dems, but I question whether it was a bigger expansion than:
-Medicare
-Medicaid

Potentially, it might be, but I don’t see how anyone could be sure. One of the oddities about Part D is that it’s potentially a time bomb in the same sort of way SS was, but even harder to figure out. Supposedly, Seniors pay a premium for Part D, and they do. There is a “base premium” that everybody pays. But if the senior is already on some medication when he applies, the cost of that medication is his “premium”, which comes out of his SS benefit. Now, if he later requires more meds or something, supposedly his premium stays the same. But he has a $310 deductible until he reaches $2800 in deductibles and copays, then he pays 50% up to $4550.

I don’t pretend to fully understand the thing, but it’s pretty strange and it’s hard to know how much the government is really going to spend on medications, particulary since meds go out of patent, and what might cost $500/month today could cost $50 tomorrow.

It is also my understanding that Part D is handled through insurance companies. And, I’m not sure either whether the Obamacare control of insurance extends to that as well. Could be it just won’t cover the $1,000/month cost of the costliest meds, and people might be forced to alternatives that cost less.
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Factually what you state is correct. However, anything subsidized by the government will no doubt RAISE its price. Why should anyone provide discounts or be competitive when they can get any price they want?
 
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