Republican Primary

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ProVobis said:
Here’s another way of looking at it.

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Doesn’t look like Romney would be too keen on disbanding the Fed either. Another four years for Bernanke either way.
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Economically, I have seldom seen any difference between the parties. Both are big on deficit spending and pandering to big business interests. For me though, the economy is not the most important issue. I just look to the lilies of the field and prepare for the eventual collapse.
 
pnewton said:
Economically, I have seldom seen any difference between the parties. Both are big on deficit spending and pandering to big business interests. For me though, the economy is not the most important issue. I just look to the lilies of the field and prepare for the eventual collapse.
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To me the expansion of the money supply is the big issue.

As Rothschild once said, “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.”

As Cicero once said "“The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall.” (translated from Latin)

The amount of money printing going on IMO is the best indicator of the corruption of the government. Bernanke and practically all the monetary doves in the Federal Reserve System have been appointed/reappointed by Bush and Obama. They have to go if we are to prevent a complete collapse.
 
ProVobis said:
To me the expansion of the money supply is the big issue.

As Rothschild once said, “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.”
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So true. Money being nothing but paper, I guess most policians today never learned that money is not supposed to grow on trees. Unfortunately, most voters do not understand that printing more money does not make us a wealthier nation. It might create a little bubble to dupe voters into thinking things are better, though.

I carry with me a $50 billion dollar bill (Zimbabwe) to remind me of the lessons of my youth, such as you can’t get something for nothing. Yet we in America have lost the most basic wisdom in our greed. I do not know it there is yet time for an answer, but I know the Republican Party is not the answer. They are part of the problem.
 
ishii said:
JFK was also somewhat unpopular in the south in 1960 - coming from Massachusetts, like Romney. That is why he picked LBJ as his running mate - to help win the south. The south will vote for Romney - who else will they vote for, Obama?

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One danger is that they might not vote at all. To have a candidate that the GOP base is unenthusiastic about could tip the balance in Obama’s favor, especially in any state where the race is bound to be tight. If Romney is the nominee, I think it will be a nail-biter here in NC.

I know this is only anecdotal, but a number of my conservative friends and family follow politics only lightly, are unimpressed with Romney, and do not know enough specifics about Obama to really hate what he is doing. I think they just wouldn’t show up on election day.
 
pnewton said:
Money being nothing but paper, I guess most policians today never learned that money is not supposed to grow on trees. Unfortunately, most voters do not understand that printing more money does not make us a wealthier nation. It might create a little bubble to dupe voters into thinking things are better, though.
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Seems like in the end the citizens vote their paper pocketbooks. It’s no wonder the first Bush president blamed Alan Greenspan for his loss to Clinton because Greenspan held interest rates too high.
 
ishii said:
JFK was also somewhat unpopular in the south in 1960 - coming from Massachusetts, like Romney. That is why he picked LBJ as his running mate - to help win the south. The south will vote for Romney - who else will they vote for, Obama?

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I think that the concern is that Republicans who don’t like Romney will simply vote for no one at all. They’ll stay home. That will affect not only the vote for the presidency but also other Republicans on the ticket.
 
Alan55 said:
I think that the concern is that Republicans who don’t like Romney will simply vote for no one at all. They’ll stay home. That will affect not only the vote for the presidency but also other Republicans on the ticket.
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Democrats have the same concern with Obama. Since his “hope and change” fell flat, there are a lot of liberals who won’t vote Republican but may very well stay home.
 
Alan55 said:
I think that the concern is that Republicans who don’t like Romney will simply vote for no one at all. They’ll stay home. That will affect not only the vote for the presidency but also other Republicans on the ticket.
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In a normal year, you might be right. Obama has 50% of the population that say he doesn’t deserve re-election (the other half includes the “no opinion” etc, part–ie, those who do want him re-elected are much less than 50%). The Tea Party is itching to vote against him. They’ll vote, alright. 🙂
 
rlg94086 said:
Democrats have the same concern with Obama. Since his “hope and change” fell flat, there are a lot of liberals who won’t vote Republican but may very well stay home.
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👋 :bounce: Here’s one who entertained the thought of voting for a minor 3rd party such as the Greens. But after viewing the Republican primary process and political discussion on CAF, and weighing my options, I realize doing so would only help the Republicans, whose views I view as worse than Obama. No way would I ever stay home. Well I might vote by mail in ballot. But no way I won’t vote. Have never missed voting in any election and it’s been decades. No reason to start now. 👍
 
CMatt25 said:
👋 :bounce: Here’s one who entertained the thought of voting for a minor 3rd party such as the Greens. But after viewing the Republican primary process and political discussion on CAF, and weighing my options, I realize doing so would only help the Republicans, whose views I view as worse than Obama
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While I could never support anyone who has perpetrated evil on such a scale as the current president as well as proving inept in handling the economy, I have to agree with you on one point, the Republicans here sure are not presenting the moral high ground very well. The candidate too are hit and miss when it comes to lining up with Catholic moral teaching.
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
In a normal year, you might be right. Obama has 50% of the population that say he doesn’t deserve re-election (the other half includes the “no opinion” etc, part–ie, those who do want him re-elected are much less than 50%). The Tea Party is itching to vote against him. They’ll vote, alright. 🙂
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I agree. Even from these threads you see that people will vote for whoever can beat Obama. They want Obama out.

I think it’s the Democrats who will stay home because they can’t vote Republican and they can’t vote for Obama.

Obama has definitely not delivered. Especially on the transparency promise.
 
qui_est_ce said:
I agree. Even from these threads you see that people will vote for whoever can beat Obama. They want Obama out.
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I heard the same logic with Dole. Didn’t happen. I heard it with McCain. Didn’t happen.

If you keep accepting slop, all you’ll ever end up with is slop.
 
I am not a fan of Obama, but if his opponent is either Gingrich or Santorum I either will vote for him or a third party. Neither is fit to be president of our great nation. Romney has weaknesses, but he is ‘presidential’ with plenty of experience. Besides, Gingrich and Santorum likely would lose while Romney has a 50/50 chance of winning.
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One irony in this whole matter. The evangelicals, who traditionally have been most hostile to Catholicism, are voting for Gingrich and Santorum! Polls show that Catholics are more split.

 I know that this will be an unpopular statement, but Santorum and Gingrich will hurt the image of the Catholic Church. Both come across as irresponsible, aggressive hawks, ready to 'bomb 'em' the day after they take office. The personal history of Gingrich makes him ill-qualified - in my view. Santorum belongs back in medieval times. His embracing of Opus Dei and Legions of Christ are very disturbing - again, in my view. I'm well aware that most posters on CAF seem much more pre-Vatican in their perspec tive, but they do not reflect the majority of American Catholics.
 
Roy5 said:
I am not a fan of Obama, but if his opponent is either Gingrich or Santorum I either will vote for him or a third party. Neither is fit to be president of our great nation. Romney has weaknesses, but he is ‘presidential’ with plenty of experience. Besides, Gingrich and Santorum likely would lose while Romney has a 50/50 chance of winning.
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One irony in this whole matter. The evangelicals, who traditionally have been most hostile to Catholicism, are voting for Gingrich and Santorum! Polls show that Catholics are more split.

 I know that this will be an unpopular statement, but Santorum and Gingrich will hurt the image of the Catholic Church. Both come across as irresponsible, aggressive hawks, ready to 'bomb 'em' the day after they take office. The personal history of Gingrich makes him ill-qualified - in my view. Santorum belongs back in medieval times. His embracing of Opus Dei and Legions of Christ are very disturbing - again, in my view. I'm well aware that most posters on CAF seem much more pre-Vatican in their perspec tive, but they do not reflect the majority of American Catholics.
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I like Catholicism, I don’t really care much for the majority of American Catholics.
 
tnr.com/article/politics/101420/santorums-church-opus-dei - article in a left leaning site on how Santorum stated he does not belong to Opus Dei ; may be if he did , he would have projected a bit more of a confidant, peaceful trait , which still can easily come , with enough trust in The Lord , since the foundations are in the right place !
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Mrs .Santorum and Mrs .Gingrich teaming up to promote Divine Mercy devotion and Feasts, as well as the Original Image of Merciful Jesus ,in thousands of places world over , to recognise the power of mercy over evils of all sorts , mercy and trust that gives men and women , power to live in their rightful dignity , even power over adverse weather let alone hatred in hearts - let us hope that many Catholics and Christians would see the potential in same and thus , also to make up for choosing for one , in last election who has become the tool for the enemy, in the one area of health insurance that was the attraction for many !

The origin of these with the Romney plan is to be well recognised too !

If the promise of better economy or better international relations is luring many to someone who also subscribes to views that ought to be very troubling , the lesson to have been learned from the present situation is being wasted !

npr.org/2012/03/07/148170072/ohio-attorney-general-on-santorum-campaign Ohio Attorney General , who has become a Santorum supporter , on his good chance of winning the general election .

Gingrich made mention of role of Bl.John Paul11 and peace from fall of communism ; such would be what a good Catholic leadership can accomplish for the nation and the world ; our heavenly Father would want no less for us His children !
 
I don’t think Romney could beat obama-santorum is doing so well mostly because he is NOT romney

Don’t want romney as the nominee at all-santorum is a little whiny and angry but at least he has some sort of fire in the belly-romney has none at all:rolleyes:
 
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