Reverend Rob Schenck Explains Why He Wasn't at the March for Life

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A priest can’t be pro-choice, it is heretical, and the priest didn’t claim to be pro-choice in the article. They just didn’t attend the march for life.
 
Willing_Spirit said:
A priest can’t be pro-choice, it is heretical, and the priest didn’t claim to be pro-choice in the article. They just didn’t attend the march for life.
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Rev. Rob Schenck is not a priest. He’s an Evangelical clergyman.
And he is most definitely pro-choice these days.



 
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I wouldn’t cite that opinion/perspective piece as evidence. Honestly, I had to check the publication date to make sure it wasn’t an April Fools Day satire.
 
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Oh, well I still don’t understand why he is called pro-choice. It says in the article “For me, and for too many of my fellow pro-life activists…”

Edit: Just saw your links. I guess it’s not misleading for those in the loop. Still confused by the quote above then.
 
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I have posted several articles above showing that he is pro choice.

Perhaps you should read up a bit on the man before you flag other people’s posts based on incorrect assumptions.
 
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Perhaps, but I think it still stands as misleading when it doesn’t clarify that “Reverend” isn’t referring to a Catholic priest on a Catholic site, and he refers to himself as a pro-life activist in the present tense in the article.
 
 
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he refers to himself as a pro-life activist in the present tense in the article.
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Rev. Schenck is the one who’s being misleading by continuing to present himself as a pro-life activist when he’s writing editorials stating that he supports Roe v. Wade.

He wants to have it both ways, and he can’t.

In my opinion he’s a bit of a Judas.
 
kainosktisis said:
Here’re some examples:

Each month, thousands of witches cast a spell against Donald Trump…

Palestinians threaten…
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You have just proven that anyone can find some pretty wild things on the internet. Are those examples useful in understanding or defining Trump Derangement Syndrome? Do you seriously think that witches and Palestinian activists represent or typify liberals, Democrats, or average people who think Trump has illegally abused his power?
 
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Dan123 said:
I don’t think I could post pictures of the signs and memes created about Obama without being banned from this forum.
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I remember that too.

But two wrongs don’t make a right, and definitely these things have got more extreme and more widespread under Trump than they were under Obama. The anti-Obama stuff was mostly hidden away in the darker corners of the Internet whereas the anti Trump stuff is so in your face that there is no place you can go if you want to avoid it.

It seems to me that the people who were upset when people went after Obama with stupid memes are trying to get their revenge now that Trump is president, and are overshooting the mark massively.

Revenge is not a good basis for political discourse.
 
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Cirdan_XII said:
It seems to me that the people who were upset when people went after Obama with stupid memes are trying to get their revenge now that Trump is president, and are overshooting the mark massively.
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I think objectively Trump has done more questionable things. The right laid into Obama for golfing. Trump objectively golfs more and at his own resorts, enriching himself. Perhaps it’s disproportional but it’s not entirely without merit.
 
Beryllos said:
I respectfully disagree (with Schenck and the previous post which was deleted). Hopefully President Trump’s words in defense of life and the unborn will live and bring life, even long after his faults and failings have been consigned to history books.
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I agree, however this issue points out the folly of attaching Christianity too closely to politics.
We need to vote pro-life, and that vote is sadly almost exclusively one party. But our message needs to focus on core principles, not political rhetoric that only causes reflexive defensiveness.
 
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tafan2 said:
You need to go back and refresh your memory. Everytime an right-to-life issue came up, W came down on the right side. Off the top of my head, i recall him reinstituting the Mexico City policy on his first day of office. He prohibit embryonic stem cell research from using any cells derived by new embryos that would be killed. He appointed Alito and Roberts to the Supreme Court. I could probably do 5 minutes of research and find more that he did. He certainly stood up for right-to-life as much as Trump has.
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Good points, but it’s hard to make a comparison. I’d say speaking at the rally is credible support Bush did not proffer in his 8 yrs,
 
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I think objectively Trump has done more questionable things. The right laid into Obama for golfing. Trump objectively golfs more and at his own resorts, enriching himself. Perhaps it’s disproportional but it’s not entirely without merit.
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I doubt it enriches him, the course is effectively shut down when POTUS is on the green. If you are a Dem golfer being inconvenienced, you likely find another course to spend your $.

I did read his golfing trend is just above Obama’s
 
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https://presidentialgolftracker.com/trump-vs-obama-golf-games/

They seem to have run the numbers. To be fair this considers golf alone not all vacations so I’m not indicting him on this, but there is the question of appearances. Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm merely to avoid the appearance of conflict. President Trump travels to his properties, and it seems on multiple occasions the prices charged are orders of magnitude more than the public is charged. That hasn’t been the practice with other presidents, Democrat or Republican, and I don’t think it can be argued it befits such an important position to be paying huge sums of money to properties with your own name on it.
 
To follow up on that, this is probably one of the more clear examples.


The complaint filed in D.C. Superior Court states that another nonprofit, the Prayer Breakfast, paid just $5,000 to rent the ballroom on the morning of Trump’s inauguration. That afternoon, the inaugural committee reportedly paid $175,000 to rent the same room.

Nonprofit money was also used to “pay for a private after-hours party for the Trump family and roughly 1,200 guests at the Hotel,” Racine says, despite concerns raised by inaugural committee staff that the use of funds was inappropriate.

The inaugural committee was also involved in booking the majority of the rooms at the hotel, according to the complaint. The lawsuit states that it would be standard practice for the hotel to provide free or reduced-priced event space to a group that booked a large block of rooms.

I’ll let the lawsuit decide how inappropriate it was, it just feels like every single thing has some whiff of impropriety about it.
 
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They seem to have run the numbers.
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your data looks wrong, it seems to include visits to a club (Mara El Lago?) and not just actual golf outtings. Thus it’s comparing apples and oranges since Obama went to Hawaii etc which aren’t in the count…

This site gives a correct comparison
 
Theo520 said:
This site gives a correct comparison
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Gotcha, yep seems more apples to apples. The other number I found was that Trump has spent almost as much on vacations in 3 years as Obama did in 8. I’ll vet that number more before posting a link but if true and derived from reasonable numbers and assumptions is a bit worrying. I know presidents have working vacations but still.
 
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