The Church says healthcare is a basic human right.
You can not produce farm crops using toxic chemicals and sell them.
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Have you ever seen the labels on 2-4D, Atrazine, Anhydrous ammonia or Round Up?
Have you ever seen the labels on 2-4D, Atrazine, Anhydrous ammonia or Round Up?Prove what I said is wrong.
Jim
No I haven’t, but how does this disprove that the government doesn’t regulate farming products that are sold for human consumption?Have you ever seen the labels on 2-4D, Atrazine, Anhydrous ammonia or Round Up?
Subsidies to farmers and corporations are wrong distort the true price of commodities and are an insult to honest laborers and are loved by the statist and Stalinist alike.
I’m not arguing about the rightness of farms subsidies, but the fact is, they’re there and there are plenty of corporate benefits the government gives, like tax write-offs for closing up shop here in the USA and moving to China.
Actually, one can actually debate whether or not single payer meets the test of subsidiarity. For example, in all insurance markets you have the adverse selection problem and having one health insurance system for everyone does solve that particular problem. The downside is that governments cannot run anything efficiently. So it is not surprising that we have a lot of debates on healthcare. But, the Church has never definitively ruled that single payer violates subsidiarity, so it is left to our prudential judgement.
We don’t do that now, and oddly enough, didn’t do that in the previous 234 years prior to this legislation.
The Church is opposed to parts of the legislation and the Bishops have said, it needs work, specifically, the conscience exemption on contraception and such.
Can you please define this “right”. I mean life is an easy right to define. God gave ME my life, no one else’s life. Even the live’s of my children are not mine, but rather a stewardship that I am accountable to God for. So, while I understand that having the right to access healthcare is a right that is intimately tied with the right to life, how can anyone claim that the PROVISIONING of healthcare is also a right? Unless a country establish a manner of provisioning healthcare to its citizens that does not violate the citizens equally valid property rights, how can you justify this, unless you also justify slavery? If you force one group of people to pay for the healthcare of another group of people, or force doctors to care for patients regardless of their ability to pay, then you are effectively making one group of people slaves to another group of people.
Great, so we agree that no faithful Catholic can support this legislation.
Isn’t it odd that some can have such a narrow application with such a broad statement by the Church, and yet have a very broad application of “in the presence of proportionate reasons”?
We did but the socialist/communist are winning the last battles and we are willing to be serfs for healthcare, food stamps, retirement income, unemployment income, whatever we want from Uncle we yell loud enough and it is ours.Can you please define this “right”. I mean life is an easy right to define. God gave ME my life, no one else’s life. Even the live’s of my children are not mine, but rather a stewardship that I am accountable to God for. So, while I understand that having the right to access healthcare is a right that is intimately tied with the right to life, how can anyone claim that the PROVISIONING of healthcare is also a right? Unless a country establish a manner of provisioning healthcare to its citizens that does not violate the citizens equally valid property rights, how can you justify this, unless you also justify slavery? If you force one group of people to pay for the healthcare of another group of people, or force doctors to care for patients regardless of their ability to pay, then you are effectively making one group of people slaves to another group of people.
I thought we fought a great and bloody war over this…
No, the Bishops have not said that.
With all due respect to the bishops, how people cover their health expenses are none of their business. They should stick to topics that they do have authority over that they AREN’T doing so well at, like teaching about salvation, the Eucharist, abortion, contraception, etc… you know, faith and morals. The things they have direct authority over.
And since the current law contains no such exemptions to satisfy the USCCB’s demand for religious freedom, support for it is untenable.
You probably are being quoted a cost with low/no copays and deductables.