Rosie speaks out again!

[Wolseley]

Rosie O’Donnell?

…Rosie O’Donnell…Rosie O’Donnell…

Oh, Rosie O’Donnell! Yeah, sure—she was that chick who had a, what, talk show or something about ten years or so, wasn’t she?

Yeah, I remember her. So she’s important now, or what?

I really couldn’t tell you, since I last saw her about the same time I started boycotting baseball, which was after their 1990-something strike…and then, of course, I haven’t watched TV since 2003, and the last three movies I actually saw in a theater were Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, and The Passion…

I’m kind of out of the loop on American popular culture. I unplugged from it some time ago, and have felt immeasurably happier ever since.

 

[Brian_C]

and then, of course, I haven’t watched TV since 2003, and the last three movies I actually saw in a theater were Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, and The Passion…

I’m kind of out of the loop on American popular culture. I unplugged from it some time ago, and have felt immeasurably happier ever since.

People who can unplug the TV scare me almost as much as Rosie!

 

[sea_oat]

Robertson and Falwell at their worst do not call for stoning adulterers to death, encourage their follower to cut off the heads of “unbelievers” nor encourage their sons to blow themselves up in crowded areas so they can enjoy an eternal orgy with 72 women.

There simply in no comparison in any way shape or form.

I couldn’t agree with you more.

 

[tjm8]

Well said!

 

[bones_IV]

I couldn’t agree with you more.

And nor does Mother Angelica or Pat Robertson call for the extermination of people who don’t agree their idealogies. I get so sick of Rosie and her childish temper tantrums.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

ABC’s Rosie O’Donnell told a nationwide audience this week that “radical Christians” are the same as radical Muslims who piloted hijacked jetliners into New York’s Twin Towers, who chop off the heads of individuals and who bomb innocent children in suicide attacks. O’Donnell made her comments as host of ABC’s “The View.”

“Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have separation of church and state,” O’Donnell said. She had been saying that America was attacked “not by a nation.” She continued: “And as a result of the attack and the killing of 3,000 innocent people, we invaded two countries and killed innocent people.” Even her liberal co-hosts were shocked by her comments.

Co-host Joy Behar protested that Christians are not trying to impose mass murder on America. “This group (radical Muslims) is threatening to kill us.” Replied O’Donnell: “No, but we are bombing innocent people in other countries. True or false?”

O’Donnell was saying there is no difference between the radical Muslims who kill in the name of Allah and Bible-believing Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus.

Neither O’Donnell nor ABC apologized for the comments. Had she made similar comments about minorities or homosexuals, there would have been an apology, and she would have probably been fired.

The message from ABC is that bashing Christians is acceptable, even comparing them with murderers who kill in the name of Allah.

There are different kinds of radicalism in Christianity - the kind that allows or encourages one to murder abortionists is one sort; another, is the attitude that won’t allow one to be content to obey the Gospel in a half-hearted way, or to rely on anyone but God.​

As to her remarks, I can’t see why her co-hosts were shocked: what she says is precisely true - unless the USA was uninvolved in “Shock & Awe” bombing (which was a criminal act, BTW - bombing civilians is a war crime; which is why German bombing of London in WW1 was considered to be so outrageous; and why the bombing of Guernica by German planes 20 years later was so widely condemned. And why the Allied bombing of Dresden a few years later still has remained controversial.

Bombing civilians is revolting, even if the USA does it after being bombed by Islamofascists. There is no such thing as a sufficient reason to bomb civilians. Unless one is going to ignore Christian ethics.

BTW - trying to impose democracy from the outside is a contradiction in terms; it can only grow from below. No nation is obliged to be democratic for the convenience of another. ##

 

[gmarie21]

Even though she decided to discuss the war in Iraq, she started by saying that it’s just as dangerous as “Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have separation of church and state”. She wasn’t even referring to Iraq when she made the statement about Christianity. She made the statement, one can deduce, b/c to her it is the radical Christian that will not allow her to marry and recognize a “marriage” to her children’s female nanny. It’s ALL about Rosie and her personal life and how it’s affected, she can’t see beyond that.

 

[Chris_LaRock]

ABC’s Rosie O’Donnell told a nationwide audience this week that “radical Christians” are the same as radical Muslims who piloted hijacked jetliners into New York’s Twin Towers, who chop off the heads of individuals and who bomb innocent children in suicide attacks. O’Donnell made her comments as host of ABC’s “The View.”

“Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have separation of church and state,” O’Donnell said. She had been saying that America was attacked “not by a nation.” She continued: “And as a result of the attack and the killing of 3,000 innocent people, we invaded two countries and killed innocent people.” Even her liberal co-hosts were shocked by her comments.

Co-host Joy Behar protested that Christians are not trying to impose mass murder on America. “This group (radical Muslims) is threatening to kill us.” Replied O’Donnell: “No, but we are bombing innocent people in other countries. True or false?”

O’Donnell was saying there is no difference between the radical Muslims who kill in the name of Allah and Bible-believing Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus.

Neither O’Donnell nor ABC apologized for the comments. Had she made similar comments about minorities or homosexuals, there would have been an apology, and she would have probably been fired.

The message from ABC is that bashing Christians is acceptable, even comparing them with murderers who kill in the name of Allah.

People like Rosie have conveniently overlooked the fact that radical liberals have caused the deaths of countless millions of unborn children every year by demanding that abortion be allowed to continue. Who are the terrorists there???

 

[cestusdei]

The Muslim prisoners in Abu Gharaib begged the Americans to say. Since we left the conditions are worse and there is mistreatment by their co-religionists (gasp). One said that it was much better when the US Army ran the place. This story was not front page news. Wonder why.

Look at it this way. You hear on the news a plane was hijacked. Who was most likely involved?
A. Franciscan Nuns
B. Hari Krishna’s
C. Baptists
D. Muslims

I think that answers Rosie.

 

[Riley259]

Robertson and Falwell at their worst do not call for stoning adulterers to death, encourage their follower to cut off the heads of “unbelievers” nor encourage their sons to blow themselves up in crowded areas so they can enjoy an eternal orgy with 72 women.

There simply in no comparison in any way shape or form.

Exactly, it’s an absurd comparison to make and I hope others in the mainstream media take her to task on it…but, I know they won’t. Anyway, I think the other poster had it right when they said that her idea of radical Christianity was not necessarily just the Falwells and Robertsons but the orthodox Christians in general, especially those of us who think that gay sexual contact is a sin and abortion is the killing of an innocent human person - that’s who she was taken a shot at!!

 

[Chris_LaRock]

Look at it this way. You hear on the news a plane was hijacked. Who was most likely involved?
A. Franciscan Nuns
B. Hari Krishna’s
C. Baptists
D. Muslims

I think that answers Rosie.

Rosie has a private jet. She wouldn’t care!

 

[hosemonkey]

The opening shots in the war between Christianity and Islam were fired long before 9/11. If anyone does not believe that this is a war between opposing civilizations, you had better look closely at the facts. Islam intends to complete the work begun by Mohammed, the conversion by persuasion or by the sword, of the world. The gaining of nuclear capacity by Pakistan and, if nothing is done, by Iran, will further this end. The so-called “moderate” Moslems are largely mute and continue to support the radicals with money and with safe havens. President Bush is correct when he calls this the war of our generation and we face an enemy much worse than Adolf Hitler and his Nazi thugs. For Hitler it was the Jews, for the terrorists of Islam it is the rest of the non-Moslem world. The so-called innocent civilians are just as culpable in their fanatic support of terrorism. I say that in a battle for the very survival of our culture, almost anything goes.

 

[Jeanette_L]

Bombing civilians is revolting, even if the USA does it after being bombed by Islamofascists. There is no such thing as a sufficient reason to bomb civilians. Unless one is going to ignore Christian ethics.

The problem with this is that the USA is not acting as a “Christian” Theocratic nation, we are a secular nation, and our laws and policies are not really driven by Christian principles. We have a population that claims to be somewhere around 85% Christian, but most of these don’t even agree amongst themselves what it means to be Christian, let alone how to behave as Christians while trying to defend free civilization.

BTW - trying to impose democracy from the outside is a contradiction in terms; it can only grow from below. No nation is obliged to be democratic for the convenience of another. ##

We went into Iraq with the intent on helping the Iraqi’s, who had been trying to depose Saddam with the dream of a democratic society, kinda like we had promised them in the first Iraq war and then deserted them to be slaughtered. It’s why we haven’t deserted them to date this time, although I think that honor in keeping our word is not what many in our country are very concerned about anymore.

So, it has never been about imposing democracy, but supporting and standing with those within that country who are willing to fight to establish it, a long hard fight that they can’t win on their own, especially with Al Quieda working against them to make sure they don’t succeed.

It is indeed a mess, but when is war not a mess? And when do we decide that freedom is not worth fighting for?

OK, I’ll shut up now! I don’t normally talk politics, but I do talk religion! This one kinda mixed them both up and I crossed a line I don’t normally cross!

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As to the general discussion: is anyone surprised that Rosie hates “Radical” Christians (radical means anyone who takes their faith seriously and objects to abortion, euthanasia and homosexual marriage) and has no problem saying it? Is anyone surprised that the Left in general thinks we are a threat? The world hated Christ, we should be surprised if they don’t hate us.

Peace in Christ, it’s all we can hold onto in days like these.

 

[Bella3502]

I think her point is valid. And she is entitled to her opinion.

I immediately thought of the Christians that bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors “in the name of God”. They are no better than the radical Muslims.

 

[Jeanette_L]

I think her point is valid. And she is entitled to her opinion.

I immediately thought of the Christians that bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors “in the name of God”. They are no better than the radical Muslims.

The abortion bombers are so extremely fringe, they have no where near the numbers in their ranks that Fundamentalist Muslims have, and are no where near the threat. How often do you even hear about these kinds of things anymore? Most Christians don’t even consider these people to even be Christian and completely disavow their actions.

Rosie is most definately not equating these two, she is talking about Christians who use their voting power to speak their opinions. She thinks the Christian vote is the danger. And I think we could be heading somewhere with this kind of thinking, not too far off into the future either.:twocents:

 

[WanderAimlessly]

Look at it this way. You hear on the news a plane was hijacked. Who was most likely involved?
A. Franciscan Nuns
B. Hari Krishna’s
C. Baptists
D. Muslims

I think that answers Rosie.

She would probably answer A or C.

PF

 

[CathCentrist]

Sorry, but even though I’d be the first to tell Rosie that I would boycott her gay cruises, prevent gays from adopting and even getting married, I would still rather have her as my neighbor over people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. I think its more evil to use the lord in the manner of “Lord lord, did we not preach in thy name and cast out in thy name?” like folks such as those two charlatans do, then just be morally adrift like Rosie is.

 

[Brian_C]

There are different kinds of radicalism in Christianity - the kind that allows or encourages one to murder abortionists is one sort; another, is the attitude that won’t allow one to be content to obey the Gospel in a half-hearted way, or to rely on anyone but God.​

As to her remarks, I can’t see why her co-hosts were shocked: what she says is precisely true - unless the USA was uninvolved in “Shock & Awe” bombing (which was a criminal act, BTW - bombing civilians is a war crime; which is why German bombing of London in WW1 was considered to be so outrageous; and why the bombing of Guernica by German planes 20 years later was so widely condemned. And why the Allied bombing of Dresden a few years later still has remained controversial.

Bombing civilians is revolting, even if the USA does it after being bombed by Islamofascists. There is no such thing as a sufficient reason to bomb civilians. Unless one is going to ignore Christian ethics.

BTW - trying to impose democracy from the outside is a contradiction in terms; it can only grow from below. No nation is obliged to be democratic for the convenience of another. ##

Can you say tangent? Spare your Iraq feelings for another thread, please.

 

[estesbob]

I think her point is valid. And she is entitled to her opinion.

I immediately thought of the Christians that bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors “in the name of God”. They are no better than the radical Muslims.

There hasn’t been a clinic bombing or a Doctor shot at, more or less killed, in over a decade.Even before then they were rare…

You comments are classic liberal moral equivalence. Islamic fanatics has killed 100s of thousands of their “own people” and “unbelievers” while abortion kills 1.2 million a year but by gosh, the Liberal responds, Jerry Falwell , Pat Robertson and radical Christians(whatever that is)are just as bad because they have said things mean things about homosexuals and a handful of abortion doctors got killed in the last 35 years.

 

[Brian_C]

There hasn’t been a clinic bombing or a Doctor shot at, more or less killed, in over a decade.Even before then they were rare…

You comments are classic liberal moral equivalence. Islamic fanatics has killed 100s of thousands of their “own people” and “unbelievers” while abortion kills 1.2 million a year but by gosh, the Liberal responds, Jerry Falwell , Pat Robertson and radical Christians(whatever that is)are just as bad because they have said things mean things about homosexuals and a handful of abortion doctors got killed in the last 35 years.

EXACTLY, my church’s pro-life ministry prays the rosary in front of the local abortion clinic. Nothing more. Now, the local baby kiiling site WAS the victim of a malitoff cocktail recently, BUT…it was at 2 am by someone with a criminal record. They probably could have just as easily thrown it across the street at the Circle K.