Russians Indicted by FBI for Interference in 2016 Elections

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DignumEtJustum said:
I hold disdain for anti-American democrats only. I’ve been all through America and the blue coastal states are the worst. Where they are headed politically is totally off the deep end and can not be called “progress.” The red states will not follow. And YOU are spreading misinformation as pushed by the Associated Press
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The Associated Press is a legitimate, reliable media source. Freedom of the press is a cornerstone of American democracy. You are trading in innuendo and out-right falsehoods.
 
In cahoots with Reuters and The Canadian Press… who else? So “legitimate” and “reliable” due to lack of competition since it’s all the same.

Perhaps the accuser here need be looked at with more scrutiny. Does sir or madam comment elsewhere other than the World News section on this site?
 
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In my opinion, you are not here to add to the discussion but rather to disrupt the discussion.
 
And in my opinion you posses a misguided and ridiculous McCarthy era-like paranoia at a time where Russia is no threat. There aren’t Russians out to get you around every corner; they did their damage already to the American education system and many other organizations including the Catholic Church 80-100 years ago now and have since rejected the ideologies they once held that are today embraced by American Democrats.
 
HCTC said:
In my opinion, you are not here to add to the discussion but rather to disrupt the discussion.
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Exactly. So lets talk instead about all the details Mueller released to force Trump & his supporters to stop claiming it’s all a hoax & witch hunt.
 
DignumEtJustum said:
There aren’t Russians out to get you around every corner
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Today the American government announced the indictment of 13 Russians on various charges including “From in or around 2014 to the present, defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the grand jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit for the purpose of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.”

If those indicted are innocent, they should surrender to the U.S.A. in order to have their day in court where they will have every opportunity to clear their names.
 
Even if they had 300, not a whole lot of influence in a country of 321 million. America had enough and the best candidate won; it’s that simple. How anyone could question that in the succeeding months since the election is beyond me as America finds herself on the rebound for the first time in years while the other candidate has continually made a fool out of herself. What has Russia gained other than perhaps one less nuclear threat for not wanting to go along with the ANTI-CATHOLIC globalist initiative that Hillary would have demanded?
 
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Read the book “None Dare Call It Treason” by John R. Stormer.

Tells the whole story of how the Soviets were active in influencing American domestic politics.

You can buy it on Amazon.
 
Thirteen entire Russians indicted? Now there’s a low-budget flick if ever I saw one. Did Putin pay for that out of the poor box of some Russian church in Yakutsk? I think we had more trolls on CAF during the election than that, and I expect they were all volunteers, or mostly so.

And those thirteen Russians told lies about Hillary Clinton, did they? Well, they were up against the entire American media who were telling lies about Trump, so I doubt they had much influence on the outcome if broadcast hours count for anything.

So far, I take it Mueller has produced thirteen Russians who colluded with…each other? And not a single one of them is in custody or ever likely to be.

But besides the Mueller elephant having gone through a year and more of expensive, tax-paid labor to give birth to a mouse, one can’t help but wonder whether maybe the Russians got smarter as they went along. After the election, they both supported and organized groups against Trump? Given the overwhelming opposition to Trump in the media, Hollywood, the Dems in congress and the “deep staters” in the FBI and elsewhere, one wonders why on earth the Russians have bothered with such miniscule efforts.

Unless, of course, Putin is much smarter than Mueller makes him out to be and is responsible for a whole lot of what is represented as “never trump” opposition. Maybe there are a lot more than 13 trolls, all of them out to stir up sentiment against Trump in order to prevent the government from functioning.
 
DignumEtJustum said:
And in my opinion you posses a misguided and ridiculous McCarthy era-like paranoia at a time where Russia is no threat. There aren’t Russians out to get you around every corner; they did their damage already to the American education system and many other organizations including the Catholic Church 80-100 years ago now and have since rejected the ideologies they once held that are today embraced by American Democrats.
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I think this post just about confirms my suspicions.
 
lynnvinc said:
I don’t participate here at CAF anymore because during the election season most of the posts I wrote something negative about Trump were deleted, like the one I wrote about how it seemed to me that whatever Trump accused of his adversaries in the primaries and general he himself seemed to be guilty of. While exceedingly negative comments about Hilary, like how she was involved in abhorrent sexual abuse, were allowed to remain, despite people flagging them.

So as far as I’m concerned this site is also hampered by Russian interference.

I’m sure this post will also be deleted post haste.
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I hear you. And it has recently crossed my mind if Russians have infiltrated the CAF world news subforum as well.
 
From the CNN article, their summary of the important points from the Mueller investigation:

"1.By “early to mid-2016,” Russians had decided to use whatever means at their disposal to help Donald Trump win.
2.The Russians bought political ads on social media sites and organized political rallies to achieve those goals.
3.Russians, disguising their identities, “communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign” in an attempt to “coordinate political activities.”

None of that is a smoking gun of collusion."

Now, look at #1. If true, it simply shows that the Russkies wanted Trump to win in the primary, possibly because they (and the left media) thought he would have the least chance to win in the general. Remember how much coverage the Democrat media gave Trump before the primary? They wanted him to win the primary, just as the Russkies apparently did.

But that does not mean they wanted him to win in the general, and the article never claims they did.

And again, even if 13 Russians did all of that, it was miniscule UNLESS they have control over a lot more of the media than anybody thinks. And, as CNN itself admits, none of it proves “collusion”.
 
Sy_Noe said:
I hear you. And it has recently crossed my mind if Russians have infiltrated the CAF world news subforum as well.
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I doubt it. I think the anti-Trumpers serving Russian interests on CAF are all volunteers…true believers. The Russians probably do appreciate their constant expression of opposition to Trump, in hope it will paralyze the government and prevent (omigosh!) America being “great again”.
 
There’s a poster that joined on February 8 and is posting to this thread, who seems to be hitting all the marks that I would suggest point to being a Russian troll. The attacks on Clinton, not to mention the attacks on Democrats in general, but most obvious (since they just can’t help themselves) is the attack on the Catholic Church.
 
HCTC said:
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It’s his job.
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Maybe now he will enforce the Russian sanctions that Congress passed.
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Based on his reaction following today’s confirmation that a longtime foe of the US had indeed infiltrated the election, I have my doubts. Because as usual, it’s only all about him.
 
Ridgerunner said:
And again, even if 13 Russians did all of that, it was miniscule UNLESS they have control over a lot more of the media than anybody thinks. And, as CNN itself admits, none of it proves “collusion”.
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The bigger issue isn’t collusion; it’s the level of interference in the 2016 elections through influence orchestrated by a foreign government. I’m pretty sure that you know that there would have been more than 13 Russian operatives involved in this effort. There are 13 Russians with ties to the Russian government that the Feds have enough evidence to charge.

Here is a bit of information relevant to the scope of the Russian effort:

EXCERPT re Facebook:

Overall, Facebook acknowledged to Congress that the Internet Research Agency had bought 3,000 ads on its platform that reached 11.4 million users. The agency’s employees also reportedly made many free posts that reached 126 million users. In addition to polarizing online political conversation, Facebook reported that the Internet Research Agency used Facebook pages to organize 129 real-world events that drew the attention of nearly 340,000 Facebook users.

One of these, organized by a group called Heart of Texas, took place on May 21, 2016, under the banner of “Stop Islamization of Texas.” On that same day, another Russian-controlled Facebook group, called United Muslims of America, publicized a competing rally to “Save Islamic Knowledge” at the same place and time.

EXCERPT re Twitter:
Twitter has acknowledged finding 3,814 accounts linked to the Internet Research Agency, which together posted some 176,000 tweets in the 10 weeks preceding the election. The company also found 50,258 automated accounts it said were connected to the Russian government and tweeted more than a million times.

One particularly notorious account linked to the Russian firm claimed to speak for Tennessee Republicans. It persuaded a wide range of American politicians, celebrities and journalists to share tweets with their own massive lists of followers. The list of prominent people who tweeted out links from the account, @Ten_GOP, which Twitter shut down in August, included political figures such as Michael Flynn and Roger Stone, celebrities such as Nicki Minaj and James Woods, and media personalities such as Ann Coulter and Chris Hayes.
 
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Elections should be suspended until we’re sure our system is Secure. Until then, all government positions should be filled by appointment.
 
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