F
FaithofAbraham
Guest
Jesus is Messiah with power of God over us, but not born a deity. Gospels, just not the Church version.
- Status
R
R_not
Guest
Thanks Vickie. I was looking for those websites too. Hitler had more to do with islam than any Christian sect during his time. He and the Arabs were working together - they had a common enemy - hatred of the Jews. Well, they both hated Christians too since so many died under both of their hands besides the Jews.
And after Hitler died we might have squashed anti-semitism in Europe - but it spread to Africa and the rise of it in the middle east happened too. Your websites talk about those who brought about that rise of anti-semitism.
faithofabraham likes to mention all the Bible’s atrocities. Well, the thing is that if we took the koran and its violence out - there would be less than half the koran left.
As for it being the world of allah - that is just an excuse for them to not change. mohammed told them that we Christians and Jews changed the Bible that is why mohammed’s versions of the Old and New Testaments are different - while it was the old boy, mohammed, himself who didn’t have a clue as to the true versions of the stories. Then he said that if you change the koran they will go to hades. How convenient! Intimidate them, terrorize them, brainwash them and if they don’t do what their book of battle tactics tells them to do - they will go to hades!
And as for mohammed not killing women - well, yeah he did. If not directly then indirectly. He issued the first fatwa against a poetess and she died suckling her baby. mohammed took the women and children, raped and enslaved them and they were passed around with the rest of the booty he captured. This guy was not a nice guy. So, he didn’t have their heads sawed off with the rest of the men - he used and abused them for the rest of their lives. And if they were problems you better believe they were killed. What do they call stoning?! They still do it to this day. What do they call ‘honor killings’? Basically the murder of their own family members, or anyone, if they go against islam.
islam is not a ‘religion’. It is a political movement that oversees every aspect of a human’s life. A woman and infidels are less than a muslim male. And as we have seen from these muslim males in these countries - the countries are groveling. Their biggest export is either oil (if that country has any) or jihadists.
Then they blame the West, the USA, or Christians, or the Jews for all their problems. They are their problem.
R
R_not
Guest
Why do you think that past history and our changing so we don’t do it anymore has anything to do with the atrocities that the muslims do to this day?
Muslims torture, murder, rape, enslave, beat/abuse, lie and steal - and they do that against their own women. Then they also do that against non-muslims too.
They do it to this very day while Christians do not.
In our society we take a murderer, give them a trial and mete out punishment. In a muslim society they just say it was an ‘honor killing’ and they get off scott free. Or in the case of a rape - the males know the woman needs 4 witnesses to the rape and the woman will be stoned, or hanged. So they do what they will to whomever. They know nothing will happen to them.
Keep bringing up the Bible. I am sure you really had to dig for those violent passages that we do NOT do anymore while the koran is so full of the violence that if it were taken out - the koran would be about 1/2 of its original size. Oh, but that is the size of the koran you say us infidels should read so you can make the ignorant think that the koran is really peaceful. Sorry chump, I read your koran and the hadiths and the history of mohammed and the history of islam - and it ain’t pretty.
B
Booklover
Guest
Thanks! The poetess was stabbed by Muhammad’s men and by his orders when she was suckling her baby.
Vickie
B
Booklover
Guest
Muslims love to bring up atrocities committed by others, while completely ignoring the bloody history of Islam.
Vickie
L
Lapell
Guest
They still can either accept him or reject him, so they certainly WILL have a choice. just like the rest of us.
L
Lapell
Guest
Anyhow, they won’t be able to deceive Him, will they? And their decision this time will be an informed one… Remember the quote from the late Bishop Fulton J. Sheen? “There are not a hundred people in the United States who hate the Roman Catholic Church. But there are millions who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church.” From this I think there is hope for those who believed those who spread lies about the Church founded by Jesus and the Holy Spirit…
L
Lapell
Guest
They are not the only ones, Booklover. Some former Catholics, some Jews, atheists, TV networks (not EWTN, thank God!) They are quite a lot, some among them just repeating what they have “learned”… They’re many! But if we’re with Jesus and try our best to live up to our faith in, and love for, Jesus, and for everybody because of Him, do we need to worry so much? … God bless you!:harp:
R
R_not
Guest
Hussein killed more in Iraq than we did and now the muslims themselves have surpassed any numbers we killed in this war by accident.
And this archaic ‘Christian crusaders’ is stupid. The muslims have proven themselves not able to take care of their own fellow muslims because they spend more money bribing our Universities, media, politicians, etc than spending it on their own poor. Why is that I wonder? Because they are too busy pushing wahabbism down our throats. They have more oil money than they know what to do with and they do nothing for the palistinians, or any poor anywhere.
Anyway, the more money we give the palestinians - the more bombs they buy. They let their own children starve - and then swoop them up to train them as jihadists.
They blame the West, the evil Satan (the USA), the Jews - and they themselves do nothing for themselves. They send their children to school - to recite the koran for hours on end. To brainwash them to hate and to do jihad.
I get sick of this crud that we are supposed to take care of all these muslims - but why would they have such a mindset? Because their koran teaches them that we are less than they are and we are supposed to either be killed, convert to islam, or be a subjugated people and pay the jizya tax. They think it is their do to do nothing and let others pay for their way through life - basically to pay for their bombs so they can kill us.
Muhammad told the Jews at Bait ul-Midras: “If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle” (Sahih Bukhari 4.53.392). Then, the lives and property of those who do not convert or leave are fair game, as seen in early Muslim battles (including those in which Muhammad participated), Barbary piracy, and so on, and once again in this case.
R
R_not
Guest
I don’t recall any Mexican government official throwing people tied up off of buildings, or torturing them, or digging mass graves so they can shoot them and then throw them into the grave pit they just dug up.
Nope, bad analogy - again as usual. Trying to defend the indefensible as usual.
B
Booklover
Guest
Plot leader “groomed children for terrorism”
Mickey the Jihadist Rat this is an oldie
here’s the latest
memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/1679.htm
Vickie
L
Lapell
Guest
Don’t worry, planten, I do believe you. I just wanted to double-check something and your answer kinda confirm what I thought. You can go in peace as far as I am concerned. God bless you!
L
Lapell
Guest
No, he can’t! If we are unfaithful to our covenant, He however will remain faithful. But still those who sit back mighty claiming Jesus will lose their eternal life if they remain unfaithful to their share of their covenant with God (that’s what baptism is) AND don’t even do concrete steps to make amend and come back to God’s way. If we have sinned but then repent and come back to Him and reject our sin very concretely, won’t God receive us, especially if our return to Him is really meant and not faked?
L
Lapell
Guest
O.K., FaithOfAbraham, I don’t want you to kill, and hope you won’t have to face a situation where you would have to do just that in self-defence!
L
Lapell
Guest
Say, faithOfAbraham, when I take the sum of the posts you put in, it strikes me that many times you sound quite like Socrates, who was well-known to apparently question about every received idea he was hearing from the mouth of the people around to make them think more and better. I like that… but when you go as far as implying things about the Catholic Church herself and our popes in general, I find it very base and unworthy of a man of integrity. I certainly believe I had to scold you in earnest, I didn’t enjoy it, but I think that in Jesus I had to do it. Otherwise I like you.
L
Lapell
Guest
Well, to all of you on this thread: Bye now, and God love you!!
R
rikkk1958
Guest
I have to give up on this thread due to the hardness of the hearts of those whose peculiar reasoning will never cease believing in a faith that is unjust. My message to FaithofAbraham and Planten is; open your heart and mind for a moment and reflect on what you are arguing because no matter what you say the argument you are fighting for is erred and the facts of truth belongs to one true God, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Goodbye and enjoy the forum of the free.
R
R_not
Guest
And the muslims will deny all of this and blame us for their own failures.
the kids brainwashing tool went from the rat - rabbit - bee. It is a bee now. and the school texts are always full of depictions of us as pigs and monkeys. And we don’t riot, tear churches - or their mosques - down or kill old nuns - like they do. they are still rioting over those mohammed cartoons. Personally, I think we should ALL don a mohammed cartoon and start getting them used to the idea that we will make a cartoon of whomever we want to make a cartoon of! If God strikes us dead - that is between the us and GOD - THEY ARE NOT OUR JUDGE, EXECUTIONER OR ANYTHING!
The arrogance of muslims is just beyond words for me. And if you really want to get sick - this is a muslim child learning how to behead a human. He looks to be dead already, but this is what islam is all about. Every single person in the USA, Europe, Canada, Australia, EVERYWHERE should see this video - and I am talking about non-muslims.
mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/191270.php
I would like our Universities, politicians, the Pope! (since he has way too often been trying to appease muslims while around this globe our Christian brothers and sisters die at muslim hands - and also Jews, Hindus, buddhists, etc die at their hands), etc. Like I said it should be for everyone!
I cannot watch it again. I cried the first time. but, this is the type of ruthless behavior everyone since mohammed started this ‘religion’ has faced. The deception, the chaos, that is islam.
I figure it will be pulled because muslims have successfully gotten things censored. they got a book censored on National Review called ‘The Life and Religion of mohammed’ - but it is available elsewhere now. I already got the book, but it is a good one. Another good one is the ‘A Never Ending War’. both are great for reference material.
F
FaithofAbraham
Guest
It’s an exercise in this:
Matthew 7:3-5 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
I freely admit Muslims are wacked out, they mistakenly take scripture meant for only Mohammed’s time and apply it to today. Just as it would be wrong to take scripture about Moses and Joshua and start killing heathen claiming that Christians are the New Israel.
But I don’t see a lot of admission from Christians here that their systems are also corrupt and have done just as much dirt as Islam. So it’s a reality check, better for everyone to admit sins and flaws of their religions and be honest.
F
FaithofAbraham
Guest
Do you have a study where someone has actually done that?
- Status