Same sex marriage laws

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KarenNC said:
The boy is homosexual not some sort of slavering sex fiend. Since when does homosexuality equal lack of self control any more than heterosexuality does?
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Well, lets see we have comments like “I am too good looking to be celibate” in regards to a question about self control, and then we have a comment like* “I do, but I know in my heart it’s okay to be gay, so I don’t need to use it]” in regards to self control.

As to when does homosexuality equal lack of self control, I guess when we see comment like I quoted above.*
 
KarenNC said:
I read it as him meaning lifelong celibacy, such as you proposed earlier. His wording may come across as a bit arrogant or conceited, but I can’t fault him for saying he doesn’t want to be celibate for the rest of his life.
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and i read it the opposite way. I guess we are going to have to wait till TEEN comes back and can clarify the matter.

See and I think that TEEN comes across as confused…oh well!🤷
 
wifeandmomoftwo said:
See and I think that TEEN comes across as confused…oh well!🤷
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Really? Seems pretty clear to me. He is sexually attracted to males rather than females and, like the vast majority of the human race, is interested in finding a lasting relationship.
 
KarenNC said:
Really? Seems pretty clear to me. He is sexually attracted to males rather than females and, like the vast majority of the human race, is interested in finding a lasting relationship.
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Perhaps insecure/ unsure would of been a better word:D
 
KarenNC said:
There is not a single thing in that list that at least some heterosexuals are not also doing, married or otherwise, nor are any of these diseases unique to the homosexual population.
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True, and heterosexuals who engage in anal intercourse suffer the consequences in similar proportions to homosexuals who engage in anal intercourse. Wifeandmom’s post was not against SSM per se, but a pretty good reason not to engage in anal sex.
 
Spirithound said:
True, and heterosexuals who engage in anal intercourse suffer the consequences in similar proportions to homosexuals who engage in anal intercourse. Wifeandmom’s post was not against SSM per se, but a pretty good reason not to engage in anal sex.
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👍 or fisting or rimming!
 
goofyjim said:
I’m not for calling it marriage necessarily. I just think we should strike all the antisodomy laws off the books.
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Human laws are a dim and somewhat faint imitation of the divine law. Striking the anti-sodomy laws (and others that may remind us of the divine law) may be a further distancing ourselves from anything that might remind us of God’s law.
 
KarenNC said:
There is not a single thing in that list that at least some heterosexuals are not also doing, married or otherwise, nor are any of these diseases unique to the homosexual population.

Such behaviors or the intent to engage in them are not a barrier to heterosexual civil marriage, so I see no reason they should be a barrier to homosexual civil marriage.
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Except that the actualization of homosexual acts is of the devil. It is Satan’s counter-attack to God’s plan. Can’t defeat the Woman Clothed with the sun…go wage war against her offspring. Confuse their desires so that they are inflammed for their own sex. And then come up with a whole system of logic and reason to sustain such actions as worthy and noble and godly.

Thus giving it the appearance of a defensible and “natural lifestyle”.

A sin is a sin is a sin whether it’s commited by a heterosexual or a homosexual. The sins of the flesh by heterosexual and homosexual men and women - are ushering in (with a flaming red carpet) the anti-christ bringing the mystery of iniquity to fruition in our own flesh.
 
mangy_dog said:
Human laws are a dim and somewhat faint imitation of the divine law. Striking the anti-sodomy laws (and others that may remind us of the divine law) may be a further distancing ourselves from anything that might remind us of God’s law.
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Isnt that what “they” want:shrug:
 
iamrefreshed said:
For those who believe that all same sex couples should be allowed civil marriages in all states, do you also support marriage rights for people in what would be termed an incestous relationship? (i.e. brother/sister, uncle/niece, brother/brother)

Please give reasons for your support/non-support.

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Lets see first I do not support SSM. I would also not support marriages between people that would be of an incestuous nature.
Why, becuase incest is morally and legally wrong.
Leviticus 18:17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy wife and her daughter. Thou shalt not take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, to discover her shame: because they are her flesh, and such copulation is incest.

***CCC2388 *Incest designates intimate relations between relatives or in-laws within a degree that prohibits marriage between them. St. Paul stigmatizes this especially grave offense: "It is actually reported that there is immorality among you . . . for a man is living with his father’s wife. . . . In the name of the Lord Jesus . . . you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. . . . " Incest corrupts family relationships and marks a regression toward animality.
 
wifeandmomoftwo said:
Lets see first I do not support SSM. I would also not support marriages between people that would be of an incestuous nature.

Why, becuase incest is morally and legally wrong.Leviticus 18:17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy wife and her daughter. Thou shalt not take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, to discover her shame: because they are her flesh, and such copulation is incest.

***CCC2388 ***Incest designates intimate relations between relatives or in-laws within a degree that prohibits marriage between them. St. Paul stigmatizes this especially grave offense: "It is actually reported that there is immorality among you . . . for a man is living with his father’s wife. . . . In the name of the Lord Jesus . . . you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. . . . " Incest corrupts family relationships and marks a regression toward animality.
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We’re in the same boat wife/mom.

I just don’t see why one can be allowed, SSM, and not the other, incest.

In my head it’s apples & apples.

I would like for someone who is pro-SSM to tell me why or if they think it’s apples & oranges.🤷
 
iamrefreshed said:
We’re in the same boat wife/mom.

I just don’t see why one can be allowed, SSM, and not the other, incest.

In my head it’s apples & apples.

I would like for someone who is pro-SSM to tell me why or if they think it’s apples & oranges.🤷
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Are heterosexual relationships between unrelated consenting adults and heterosexual relationships between a brother and sister, father and daughter, etc. apples and apples?

The same concerns and issues would apply to a relationship between a brother and a sister as to a sister and a sister or a brother and a brother.
 
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