Same-sex marriages: Let it be!

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I don’t know about your friends but there are plenty who , for whatever reason, do care if Christians refuse to recognise fake marriages between two people of the same sex. If they didn’t care, they wouldn’t try to get Christians to lose their businesses, expelled from Universities or spread a false gospel.
 
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Jamie5 said:
with all the rights and benefits of heterosexual marriage.
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Like what? Procreation? sorry, your at war with basic reality. And there are many examples of this kind of folly, such as listing two ‘mothers’ on a birth certificate, which shows just how foolish these people have become in going after their fantasies.

You might win in the short term, but you are destined to lose. The only question is how long it will take and how much damage you will do in the mean time.

Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions. - G.K. Chesterton.

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Josh
 
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Like what ?

How about start with this:
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A ruse.

In Australia all of this has been addressed with ‘de facto’ unions, yet they are still pushing for same sex marriage and they are pushing gender theory into schools under the guise of an anti bullying program and all other kinds of nonsense.

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
No ruse at all. You asked what benefits and rights that gay people want (and got) and it is simply the list I provided, the same that ANY married couple wants.
 
That was the case in Canada and the UK. Civil unions offered the same legal rights. Then some activists decided they should be called ‘marriages’.
 
Jamie5 said:
You asked what benefits and rights that gay people want (and got) and it is simply the list I provided
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No, it is much more than that list, much more, it is a revolution over marriage and the family. I didn’t see gender theory in public schools among that list, I didn’t see surrogacy there and I didn’t see bakers and other people dragged before courts for not participating in a same sex wedding or those who hold the Churches teachings on marriage and the family being dragged before the courts.

It is indeed a ruse. Something I am well aware of now. So sorry, but that argument wont fool me at all.

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
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And then the US Gov’t decided they should be called marriages too. And they were and are, present and future.

I’m curious as to what those so vehemently angry about this decision propose should be done about this?
 
Hello, the argument is not meant to fool, but to educate. What does your argument trying to accomplish? What should be done about this ruse as you call it?
 
To start, maybe not compelling Christians to recognise these fake marriages? Maybe not having universities enabling the self-appointed thought police by expelling students for stating the Christian position on a private Facebook account? Maybe not forcing photographers to be physically present at a gay wedding, which they were told wouldn’t happen? Maybe the activists should have been honest that they never intended there to be any ‘safeguards’ for religious freedoms? Maybe the activists shouldn’t have lied by saying religious people wouldn’t be affected?
 
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Jamie5 said:
What should be done about this ruse as you call it?
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Be satisfied with ‘de facto’ union in regards to the government, where you/they share in these rights like everyone else married or not, and leave marriage, for the procreation and rearing of children, which is why the government recognizes it, because we understand that it is for the benefit of the whole of society to encourage the union of a biological mother and father and to any children they produce together.

By giving man-woman marriage a unique status does not trash homosexuals, nor does it trash anyone like myself who are not married. It simply recognizes the important role of procreation and rearing of children which is at the foundation of society.

And what ATraveller said.

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
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No. The opposite of love is hate.

Something you clearly endulge in.
 
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Again, secular marriage is different from marriage within the Church. Legal marriage is indeed a right to individuals in many countries.
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Marriage existed before the Church. It has always been a sexual relationship. That should be sufficient to establish the appropriate criteria for the partners to a marriage. If its sexual nature is deemed irrelevant, then we are speaking of a different kind of relationship.
 
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Roseeurekacross said:
Bob Hawke is a legend! He echoed my sentiments about the survey, today. At the National Press Club Luncheon.

[Former Prime Minister] BOB Hawke has launched a blistering attack on Malcolm Turnbull’s $122 million gay marriage postal survey calling it the “worst economic decision made by any Australian Prime Minister”…

Good one Bob
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For those interested, Bob Hawke voted in favour of SSM.
 
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