Same-sex marriages: Let it be!

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Hello, what do you mean “when the wind shifts?”
Pop culture. Changes all the time, it was once normal to own slaves. Redefining marriage is just the same old errors only with new labels and a lot of people just go along to get along unfortunately.

Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions. - G.K. Chesterton.

God Bless

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Josh
 
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Slavery and Gay marriage have absolutely zero in common. Zero. Nada. You realize that correct? It’s not some pop culture “fad” to support marriage equality.
 
Slavery and Gay marriage have absolutely zero in common.
I was talking about the way pop culture swings in regards to morality. If morality is relative then there is no morality and I can liken anything to slavery.
It’s not some pop culture “fad” to support marriage equality.
Yes it is, and if you are Catholic, you really need to look up what the Church teaches on marriage and homosexuality, what it has always professed on marriage and the sin of sodomy.

Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions. - G.K. Chesterton.
 
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Oh, okay. That’s not acceptable to say things like that.

But it doesn’t matter since @anikins thinks I’m a homophobe…sniff…sniff…😃
 
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Marriage is not a right. If it were, all single people wanting to be married should litigate.
This doesn’t make any sense.

Just to be clear… Marriage within the church is one thing. Legal marriage is a different thing. I think people need to be specific about which they are talking about as to avoid confusion. Catholic same sex marriage does not exist. Valid legal same sex marriages very much do exist.
 
I was responding to the “so called allies” comment as well as the “when the wind shifts” comment. This makes zero sense, because to be completely honest the winds are shifting and have shifted, and it’s all in the pro marriage equality side on every level, in every group, including Catholics/Christians. These are facts.
 
Marriage? Call your local machine shop and ask the owner what a marriage is. You will learn that, in the world of manufacturing, a marriage is the mating of two complementary created parts. A perfect union.

Some parallels here. Manufacturing = creation/procreation. Complementary should be self-explanatory. Created parts = Male and female He made them. A union = physical and spiritual, not some artificial contrivance based on which way the cultural wind is blowing.
 
Regardless of what one personally feels, same-sex marriages are licensed in and recognized by all U.S. states and Washington, D.C., as well as all U.S. territories except American Samoa. State level bans are a thing of the past. These are the facts. So in that regard, the OP is correct. Even Trump recognizes same-sex marriages are “settled.”
I don’t know what I wrote that would go against your reply.
This doesn’t make any sense.

Just to be clear… Marriage within the church is one thing. Legal marriage is a different thing. I think people need to be specific about which they are talking about as to avoid confusion. Catholic same sex marriage does not exist. Valid legal same sex marriages very much do exist.
Many activists act as if marriage is a right.
Secular same sex ‘marriages’ are still counterfeits before the eyes of God.
 
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andful of incidents like that are likely to drive a lot of posters back into the woodwork rather than even bothering to try dialogue here.
Going to echo this point because its super important. Openness to dialogue is key in bringing our brothers and sisters into the fold. You cannot have a conversation amongst the brash anti-you-name-it rhetoric that’s often displayed here.

Understanding. Compassion. Grace. This is what will win over hearts.
 
I really couldn’t help but laugh at the naive nature of all of this.

Are gay “marriage” activists so arrogant as to believe this is how it will be forever and always?

Are you going to be in for a surprise…
 
to be completely honest the winds are shifting and have shifted, and it’s all in the pro marriage equality side on every level, in every group, including Catholics/Christians. These are facts.
Fact) Those professing to be Catholic/Christian and support same sex marriage and sodomy, are heretics, and unless they are going to rewrite the bible, anyone not corrupted will see right through their hypocrisy. Hopefully sooner rather than later. And that’s if the west doesn’t tear itself apart in the mean time.

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Josh
 
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Yes, nothing quite like “winning” for the Church on left-wing ad hominem attacks, right Ani?

FORWARD!
 
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Honestly, it really sounds like you are the surprised one, and even worse, in complete denial mode. How am I going to be in for a surprise? Talking in riddled conspiracies does not equate to future fact.
 
Again, secular marriage is different from marriage within the Church. Legal marriage is indeed a right to individuals in many countries.
 
Hello, what about those not professing to be Catholic/Christian and support same sex marriage? Are they all heretics too? :roll_eyes:
 
Hello, what about those not professing to be Catholic/Christian and support same sex marriage? Are they all heretics too?
Of course not. One has to claim to follow Christ, and then embrace heresy to become a heretic. This is why we Catholics say the Nicene Creed, which was to stamp out certain heresies at the time such as those who denied the divinity of Christ. Today the heresy involves those who deny that God created us male and female and the sacrament of marriage for the procreation and rearing of children. Matthew 19, Mark 10

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Josh
 
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Again, secular marriage is different from marriage within the Church. Legal marriage is indeed a right to individuals in many countries.
A person may consider gay ‘marriage’ a marriage but not God nor His followers.
It is different because a secular marriage may or may not mirror marriage as originally created by the Creator of the Universe.
 
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Aww, well good to know that whether Catholic or not, heretic or not, you can legally get married, gay or straight. 😁
 
Well my friends, gay and straight, don’t care what a person may consider marriage, but only what the Government does, and thankfully they do consider gay marriage legal with all the rights and benefits of heterosexual marriage.
 
It is different because a secular marriage may or may not mirror marriage as originally created by the Creator of the Universe.
And when it comes to the government, the only reason it has anything to do with it is for the procreation and rearing of children, when that is taken out of the equation such as with so called ‘same sex marriage’ then the government has no reason to be involved.

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
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