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WanderAimlessly
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More going on’s in San Francisco:
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San Francisco Catholic Charities Head an Active Homosexual
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GloriaPatri4
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Sadly, I’m not surprised by any of this.
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Holly3278
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They should fire him. No Catholic organization should have an employee that is participating in such a sin and is unrepentant.
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Joel_Ruiz-Dana
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This article made a big impact on me when it first came out:
How Catholic Charities Lost Its Soul
Brian C. Anderson
How Catholic Charities Lost Its Soul
Brian C. Anderson
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Brad
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I no longer give to Catholic Charities. I think our only option is to stop giving until they prove that those working for them are in agreement with basic faith tenants. It is not up to us to give because they say they are charitable. It is up to them to show that they are striving for charity through first being honest. Then they can have my dollar back.
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Catherine_S
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Joel Ruiz-Dana:
Thank you for the article Joel…I especially injoyed the article that it mentioned and I have saved it!
“How Dagger John Saved New York’s Irish,” Spring 1997.)
Excellent Article Indeed!!
God Bless You,
Shalom,
Catherine
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Thank you for the article Joel…I especially injoyed the article that it mentioned and I have saved it!“How Dagger John Saved New York’s Irish,” Spring 1997.)
Excellent Article Indeed!!
God Bless You,
Shalom,
Catherine
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fix
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Incredible.
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Joe_Kelley
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Joel Ruiz-Dana:
Unfortunately it does not appear to have made an impact on either the new archbishop, or the new cardinal.
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mikew262
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Who are you really punishing by holding back? The Catholic Charities hierarchy, or the poor soul the charity is designed for?
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contemplative
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An active gay man in a high profile position for a Catholic organization in San Francisco does not surprise me. Even so…he should be canned…gay town/San Francisco or not.
Saint Francis pray for us.
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Timidity
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Ok–so some guy in some position of power is a sinner. I don’t see the point, and I don’t see how this posting this story isn’t the sin of detraction.
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contemplative
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detraction is the blackening of an absent person’s good name by unnecessarily revealing a true but hidden crime, sin, or defect.
There is nothing hidden about a two men living together with an adopted child…one of whom by the way…holds a prominent position in a Catholic organization…nothing private about that…might as well SHOUT it from the highest mountain.
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fusilierlx
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A person’s ability to donate to charities is finite. There are plenty of worthy charities. Therefore, one has to choose among charities. What’s the harm in choosing charities faithful to the teaching of the Church? I would suggest charitably informing the unchosen charity of your reasons.
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rlg94086
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The point is (from the original post):
Do you think his particular sin may have something to do with it?
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Brad
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To answer your question:
- It is not punishment. It is standing for the truth of Christ. This is long-term reward for those that hear His voice through my weak and sin-stained actions. In the short term, perhaps the Catholic Charities leadership is harmed.
- The “poor souls” are still being helped - just through alternate organizations to whom I wish to direct my tythe.
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GloriaPatri4
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servant675
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TWO BASIC TYPES OF HOMOSEXUALITY
There are two basic degrees or types of homosexuality. Individuals in the first group may, or may not be aware of their mental disorder, and therefore not all will see the need to seek professional counseling. This group struggles with their unnatural feelings and prefers to keep them private, and they deserve our compassion.
Some women who have a domineering father will only be attracted to those of their own sex because they have learned not to respect men. The same is true of some men who have a domineering mother. Others, should one of their parents/guardians not truly love them, from a very early age may unconsciously imitate certain masculine or feminine characteristics of the parent/guardian that they most admired. However, not all become homosexuals - as with every human being, our moral state determines our ability to resist the temptations we experience.
The other more severe type is made up of individuals who are “avowed,” practicing homosexuals. Through their own free will, they choose to live an immoral lifestyle. These individuals do not seek to change or confess their sinfulness - they have no shame, and most have many partners. They desire acceptance of the scandal they create, and are openly proud of their unnatural behavior. These type homosexuals and lesbians seek the “right” to publicly practice their unnatural behavior, and accuse anyone who admonishes them of being “prejudiced,” or of “discrimination.”
These individuals, and others who live immoral lives, as well as those who give their approval or “consent” to morally sick lifestyles, are included in the warnings and condemnations recorded throughout Sacred Scripture. For example: “They who do such things, are worthy of death (Hell), and not only they who do them, but they also that CONSENT to them that do them” (Romans 1:32).
Vincent Bemowski
There are two basic degrees or types of homosexuality. Individuals in the first group may, or may not be aware of their mental disorder, and therefore not all will see the need to seek professional counseling. This group struggles with their unnatural feelings and prefers to keep them private, and they deserve our compassion.
Some women who have a domineering father will only be attracted to those of their own sex because they have learned not to respect men. The same is true of some men who have a domineering mother. Others, should one of their parents/guardians not truly love them, from a very early age may unconsciously imitate certain masculine or feminine characteristics of the parent/guardian that they most admired. However, not all become homosexuals - as with every human being, our moral state determines our ability to resist the temptations we experience.
The other more severe type is made up of individuals who are “avowed,” practicing homosexuals. Through their own free will, they choose to live an immoral lifestyle. These individuals do not seek to change or confess their sinfulness - they have no shame, and most have many partners. They desire acceptance of the scandal they create, and are openly proud of their unnatural behavior. These type homosexuals and lesbians seek the “right” to publicly practice their unnatural behavior, and accuse anyone who admonishes them of being “prejudiced,” or of “discrimination.”
These individuals, and others who live immoral lives, as well as those who give their approval or “consent” to morally sick lifestyles, are included in the warnings and condemnations recorded throughout Sacred Scripture. For example: “They who do such things, are worthy of death (Hell), and not only they who do them, but they also that CONSENT to them that do them” (Romans 1:32).
Vincent Bemowski
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St.Sharky
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Heres a hypothetical analysis of events:
If the story about him being homosexual had not come out then he would continue to do his job to the best of his ability, as he has probably been doing for the last few years. There wouldn’t be this uproar, there wouldnt be people claiming that they will stop giving to Catholic charities, none of this big business.
He would have kept on working, keeping his private life to himself, because its really no ones business if he is “sinning” in a homosexual fashion in his own time, as it has no bearing on his job. Its not like he was diverting funds into a private banks account or commiting any other kind of fraud.
Now this poor fellow is going to lose his job because you guys (and Im sure other catholics and catholic news agencies) are kicking a storm over it. So in the end he is fired for being homosexual
This is in bold because it is important, because a large majority of posters here have on other threads stated that the days of homosexuals losing their jobs as a result of their sexual orientation are gone, when if you look at this story they quite clearly are not
If the story about him being homosexual had not come out then he would continue to do his job to the best of his ability, as he has probably been doing for the last few years. There wouldn’t be this uproar, there wouldnt be people claiming that they will stop giving to Catholic charities, none of this big business.
He would have kept on working, keeping his private life to himself, because its really no ones business if he is “sinning” in a homosexual fashion in his own time, as it has no bearing on his job. Its not like he was diverting funds into a private banks account or commiting any other kind of fraud.
Now this poor fellow is going to lose his job because you guys (and Im sure other catholics and catholic news agencies) are kicking a storm over it. So in the end he is fired for being homosexual
This is in bold because it is important, because a large majority of posters here have on other threads stated that the days of homosexuals losing their jobs as a result of their sexual orientation are gone, when if you look at this story they quite clearly are not
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Liberalsaved
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You know, it strikes me that if this were so all-fired important, and so negatively affecting the performance of his job, and not a case of homophobia by whoever leaked the story, then someone would have done something in retaliation sooner. The old rule does fit; if I never heard about it it’s usually not that big a deal.
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Brendan
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I think you have it backwards. Nobody here wants to see this man lose his job. What we want is for him to reform his life and live a life in accordance with the teachings of Christ and His Church.
What’s wrong with that?
In addition, when sin is made public, it becomes the responsibility of the Christian community to assist that person in overcoming that sin. The act of doing that is a demonstration of Christian Mercy, in fact, it’s the very first Spiritual Work of Mercy.
I would it be an act of Christian Charity and Love to say to an alcoholic “ God made an alcoholic so you are not in need of any help”.
We would be just as lax in not helping a homosexual overcome their sin, or a public adulterer to recognize the value of their marriage, or a drug user to overcome their dependencies.
We sin becomes public, especially by that person’s own admission (he was the one who announced his homosexuality, no one ‘outed’ him), it becomes the responsibility of the entire Christian community to help our brother overcome it.
And if they refuse, we can act like Christ when he told the Rich Young Man (Mt 19) what he needed to do to be saved, or the crowds in John 6 for the Eucharist discourse.
What’s wrong with that?
In addition, when sin is made public, it becomes the responsibility of the Christian community to assist that person in overcoming that sin. The act of doing that is a demonstration of Christian Mercy, in fact, it’s the very first Spiritual Work of Mercy.
I would it be an act of Christian Charity and Love to say to an alcoholic “ God made an alcoholic so you are not in need of any help”.
We would be just as lax in not helping a homosexual overcome their sin, or a public adulterer to recognize the value of their marriage, or a drug user to overcome their dependencies.
We sin becomes public, especially by that person’s own admission (he was the one who announced his homosexuality, no one ‘outed’ him), it becomes the responsibility of the entire Christian community to help our brother overcome it.
And if they refuse, we can act like Christ when he told the Rich Young Man (Mt 19) what he needed to do to be saved, or the crowds in John 6 for the Eucharist discourse.
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