I’ve been assuming my weight loss has been due to some combination of the satiety that eating the fat present in meat affords, and the fact that the unprocessed carbohydrates like brown rice or wheat bread are digested more slowly than processed carbohydrates thereby resulting in fewer calories being absorbed by the time a feeling of fullness is achieved and one stops eating. So ultimately eating meat and unprocessed carbs results in a caloric deficit.
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No way. 800 calories/day is a starvation diet for any adult. I lose weight at 2000 calories/day and my normal intake now is 2300 calories/day.
Correct. My breakfast used to be eggs, and whole wheat toast. Lunch was a sandwich and piece of fruit. Dinner would be lean meat, potatoes, whole wheat bread. I never lost weight even when I went from running 2 miles 3x week to 8 miles 3x week. The only oil in the house was extra virgin olive oil, which I used sparingly.
The assertion of the thread is that “Saturated fat DOESN’T cause heart disease” which is untrue because it is a fat and too much fat does cause heart disease. What the original posts report really says is thatthere isn’t enough evidence to say that a diet rich in polyunsaturated fats but low in saturated fats reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease. And so you noticed the irony in the USDA recommendations of the ratio of oils to solid fats are not backed by evidence.I just find it ironic that a source that says to reduce saturated fats is utilized, given the title of this thread.
OTOH, there are various groups of people that eat low-carb, high meat/fat diets, such as various Eskimo groups, the Masai, etc. Guess what?..they DO have buildup in their arteries, as confirmed with autopsies. In the case of the Eskimos, autopsies were performed on frozen bodies that died prior to modern times.
FWIW, that is not a healthy diet. Bread is a processed carb. Potatoes aren’t the devil that people think they are; it’s what people put on them that is an issue.
If the “grain” you are referring to is bread, then you simply dropped a processed carb. Whole grains are just that: unprocessed, complete with the hull intact, containing that vitamins and minerals that are normally stripped from grains, and with the associated fiber. These type of grains usually have to be purchased as a health-food store or ethnic grocery. Some larger public chains carry them now, but it’s no ubiquitous.
People tend to make it much more difficult than it really is. Just envision what it would be like to live in nature, away from the modern word. What would we be eating? Twinkies and Ho Ho’s? Or natural fruits, vegetables, grains, and lean game.Fat is bad for you… a trend for decades
Carbs are bad for you… popular today
Protein is bad for you…recent study of the middle-aged
There is nothing else!
I vote for the Moderation and Variation Diet. (Just made up by me.) Eat a balanced diet from a wide variety of foods, especially fruits and vegetables. Watch out for potion size. Just like they have told us for YEARS.
Actually what the study says is that through their study of numerous other studies related to fat intake, they found no correlation between saturated fat/and or polyunsaturated fat intake and cardiac events.
Actually no one is saying “carb are bad for you” - it’s actually quite difficult to maintain an extremely low-carb diet. Some people seem to manage it ok, but personally, I don’t believe the human body is well-adapted to surviving on ketones. What is popular today, is to promote the lessening of refined carbs - generally speaking, refined flours, sugars (particularly high-fructose corn syrup), and the like as these foods tend to dominate the Standard American Diet (and now in many other nations as well). Refined carbs spike the insulin levels in the body, and over time this takes its toll on the pancreas. Carbs from brown rice, whole grains, vegetables and fruit are definitely a superior source of carbs than what most processed foods offer.Fat is bad for you… a trend for decades
Carbs are bad for you… popular today
Protein is bad for you…recent study of the middle-aged
There is nothing else!
I vote for the Moderation and Variation Diet. (Just made up by me.) Eat a balanced diet from a wide variety of foods, especially fruits and vegetables. Watch out for potion size. Just like they have told us for YEARS.
Could you elaborate on the body not being well-adapted to surviving on ketones? I’m hoping I’m in ketosis, but I don’t have the strips.
I appreciate what you add here and I don’t disagree with you. My point was that if we wait long enough we will hear of a study declaring everything “bad for you” in one way or another. About 40 years ago there was a study that declared that water (not any chemicals or other contaminants in it) would cause cancer long term! We should not have a knee-jerk reaction to every new idea that comes along.
For me, the signs are blatant. Urine turns dark yellow, and I crave fats.
The paper has been criticized and even to the point of retraction, for it is misleading and has mistakes. Also it had to be revised so the first version is no longer valid. For example, they did not mention a 2009 study that replacement of saturated fats with carbohydrates is not beneficial but replacement with polyunsaturated fats is. (It contradicts their conclusions.) ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1425.long Two important studies on omega-6 fatty acids were missed by the authors.
I’m not aware of any critiques of the study that call for retraction - can you provide the source for that?
Although animal products do contain some trans fats - these are not the same structurally, as man-made trans-fats so I wouldn’t group them equally - that is why the FDA is hoping to ban trans-fats - obviously they’re not banning beef, cheese, etc. as there is a distinct difference between the two.