Bingo. That’s the main issue I have with their guidelines. By ambiguously stating that a larger girl can’t wear the same dress as a smaller girl they’re implicitly stating that there’s something wrong with the larger girl. Without even getting into the nitty gritty of specific dresses.
That should be the guideline in a perfect world.This is all so silly. I just have to sound off.
American culture has taught our youth that “prom nite” is the appropriate time to lose virginity.
Until we change that rubric, the discussion will go on.
And as for covering of the human body, there’s a much older and better solution to the problem. Boys wear suits, period. Pants and shirts, maybe even ties. Girls wear dresses, or pants suits, or whatever they feel like, as long as the swimsuit areas are covered. If nothing appropriate is on the market, learn to sew. Patterns can be altered to fit whatever the human frame in question presents. And who cares anyway what the dress looks like? Get to the prom, the lights go down, no one can see.
Move on, nothing here.
I taught high school for 34 years and was senior class sponsor several times so I was in charge of Senior Ball preparations. When the prom magazines would come out each early spring, the kids were so excited! Many of my financially secure students would drive the 70 miles to San Francisco to make a weekend out of picking out a dress. Senior Ball or Senior Prom is such a right of passage in high school life and there are some things that are better than in 1971 when I was a senior. In the olden days (LOL!) if you did not have a boyfriend, you didn’t go to the prom; nowadays girls and boys buy single tickets and go in groups.Yes, some heavier set teens wear dresses that were really made for slender body types, but if they like the dress and their parents are supportive, then it’s not my business. Now, would I tell my own daughter that her 32DD’s are falling out of the dress and she needs another style? Of course! Body shaming is horrible - 50 years ago a thoughtless 14 year old boy told me that I can’t help that I’m homely and chubby. I have never forgotten that feeling and do not want any other young person to have to live with what shaming does to your self esteem and confidence. I hope all of the kids have a blast at prom and that the dress code is a positive, not another means to make those of us who aren’t size 2 feel less than perfect.This is all so silly. I just have to sound off.
American culture has taught our youth that “prom nite” is the appropriate time to lose virginity.
Until we change that rubric, the discussion will go on.
And as for covering of the human body, there’s a much older and better solution to the problem. Boys wear suits, period. Pants and shirts, maybe even ties. Girls wear dresses, or pants suits, or whatever they feel like, as long as the swimsuit areas are covered. If nothing appropriate is on the market, learn to sew. Patterns can be altered to fit whatever the human frame in question presents. And who cares anyway what the dress looks like? Get to the prom, the lights go down, no one can see.
Move on, nothing here.
The article doesn’t identify who the “critics” are. While it mentions students finding the regulation disagreeable it doesn’t specify that it is these students and only these students that are the referents of “critics.”
They wouldn’t dare comment on the fact that Muslim schools would have much, much stricter restrictions for girls. Everything Christian institutions get criticized for by the Media and in the West in general is true of Islamic institutions - tenfold. Bill Maher, while no friend of Christianity, has made this point many times. A Muslim country beheads gays - not a peep. Imagine if the Vatican started beheading gays in St. Peter’s square?
This might be slightly off topic, but my sister ran into something similar to this scenario in school. It wasn’t about what parts of the body that were covered but how the clothing fit. We grew up in a mostly conservative area and the schools didn’t like for clothing to show off the shape of girls bodies. My mother, who had grown up in an even more conservative environment, took a stance of opposition against this and saw it as a form of punishing or ostracizing girls for body features of which they don’t have direct control. She gave argument against the reaction to teachers for it. There was no specific dress code that addressed this, but teachers would debate among themselves if they felt someone’s outfit was inappropriate.
This. When I was a high school senior, I was a fairly petite girl with 36G breasts. Should I have been forced to wear a burlap sack? Perhaps it would be best for the school not to hold prom if certain body types are considered inappropriate even in a modest but fitted dress.
Young women could solve all these problems by wearing a Muslim burka to the prom:
I can’t tell if you’re serious or not. I’d rather not go to an event at all than be forced to wear men’s clothing that would look incredibly unflattering.
Young women could solve all these problems by wearing a Muslim burka to the prom:
bur·ka
ˈbərkə/
noun
a long, loose garment covering the whole body from head to feet, worn in public by many Muslim women.
People are tired of the double standard that the media employs. It’s not just on this forum. It’s so obvious even people who are non-practising and call themselves Christians throughout the West decry the double standard.
It’s completely relevant. I was talking about Muslim schools. A Catholic school sparks controversy for a modesty code. Why no discussion about the much stricter modesty codes in place in Muslim schools? I’m not saying the Muslim schools are necessarily wrong to have those codes in place. My point is, the media has a beef with the Christian Right. Many of the issues the Christian Right is blasted for are also present in mainstream Islam - and often tenfold…yet it’s politically incorrect to discuss the latter.
Well for one thing, students who attend Muslim schools are probably all Muslims. Many children attend parochial schools who are not Catholic or even Christian. There are also cultural differences that might affect being willing to make a big fuss about draconian dress codes. And how many Muslim schools are there in this country? I’ve never come across one or met someone who attended one. I can think of at least four Catholic parochial schools within three miles of me, plus two Episcopal schools, two Lutheran schools, and an independent Catholic school.
Yup.Young women could solve all these problems by wearing a Muslim burka to the prom:
bur·ka
ˈbərkə/
noun
a long, loose garment covering the whole body from head to feet, worn in public by many Muslim women.
:yup:
Semi serious, with a smile. Equality among the sexes.
