Schwarzenegger: ‘Extreme Right Wing’ Of Republican Party Has Litmus Test That ‘Doesn’t Allow Compromise’

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iamrefreshed said:
Hyperbole much?:rolleyes:
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Where you sleeping under a rock when the Tea Party nearly shut down government and sent the US bonds into junk status?

It wasn’t because our bonds weren’t worth anything, but because investors feared that because Congress couldn’t compromise on anything, they feared Congress would shut down government and make the bonds worthless.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Where you sleeping under a rock when the Tea Party nearly shut down government and sent the US bonds into junk status?

It wasn’t because our bonds weren’t worth anything, but because investors feared that because Congress couldn’t compromise on anything, they feared Congress would shut down government and make the bonds worthless.

Jim
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I see you buy into what the media spoons you.

Also, there is no Tea Party in congress.😉
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Politics is the art of compromise.

The Tea Party members of congress, nearly shut down the government, and brought our bond rating to junk bond status.

Whether you like it or not, the government still has to run, and part of that is providing for the safety and welfare of society, not just supporting the military and big corporate business.

Even Boehner was put into a corner after his compromise with the administration was thrown back in his face by the Tea Party members.

Like it or not, Social Security and Medicaid are here to stay.

Like it or not, roads and bridges must be repaired.

Like it or not, if we don’t help our kids get an education, we’ll end up as a 3rd world nation where only the rich will be educated and in control of every part of our lives.

Yes, when Nancy Pelosi was speaker, she and her peers went on a spending spree that even Obama tried to stop, but not having the political clout, failed.

However, he did manage to keep us out of a great depression, that is a unarguable fact.

If Mitt Romney becomes president with the current legislature, he’ll be hamstrung and will fail just as bad if not worse than Obama. Romney is an expert in working with the opposition party, but the Tea Party members are an opposition that even he won’t be successful with, because of their narrow minded ideological beliefs.

OH, and Romney would won the GOP nomination back in 2007, if not for the Religious right which controlled the GOP, and rejected him because he’s a Mormon.

Yes, the GOP has been ruined by the extreme right wing Tea Party members, who haven’t a clue on how to run government.

Jim
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This post is so full of mis-information that it is laughable.
 
iamrefreshed said:
I see you buy into what the media spoons you.

Also, there is no Tea Party in congress.😉
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You’re trying to tell us that there are no members in Congress, who are supported by the Tea Party and are beholding to them? :rolleyes:

Jim
 
iamrefreshed said:
I see you buy into what the media spoons you.
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A fault of both the right and the left. Who among us gathers his or her own news?
Also, there is no Tea Party in congress.
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Is there even a Tea Party any more? They were supposed to be the New Sheriff in Town, tough and full of sound and fury, but I read nothing of them and hear nothing of how they’re the new king makers or policy directors.

Flash in the pan??
 
FYI

Members of the Tea Party Caucus

Washington, Feb 28, 2011 - Here is a list of those Members of Congress who have officially joined the Tea Party Caucus for the 112th Congress (Updated 7/12/11):

Sandy Adams (FL-24)
Robert Aderholt (AL-04)
Todd Akin (MO-02)
Rodney Alexander (LA-05)
Michele Bachmann (MN-06)
Roscoe Bartlett (MD-06)
Joe Barton (TX-06)
Rob Bishop (UT-01)
Gus Bilirakis (FL-09)
Diane Black (TN-06)
Paul Broun (GA-10)
Michael Burgess (TX-26)
Dan Burton (IN-05)
John Carter (TX-31)
Bill Cassidy (LA-06)
Howard Coble (NC-06)
Mike Coffman (CO-06)
Ander Crenshaw (FL-04)
John Culberson (TX-07)
Jeff Duncan (SC-03)
Blake Farenthold (TX-27)
Stephen Lee Fincher (TN-08)
John Fleming (LA-04)
Trent Franks (AZ-02)
Phil Gingrey (GA-11)
Louie Gohmert (TX-01)
Vicky Hartzler (MO-04)
Wally Herger (CA-02)
Tim Huelskamp (KS-01)
Lynn Jenkins (KS-02)
Steve King (IA-05)
Doug Lamborn (CO-05)
Jeff Landry (LA-03)
Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO-09)
Kenny Marchant (TX-24)
Tom McClintock (CA-04)
David McKinley (WV-01)
Gary Miller (CA-42)
Mick Mulvaney (SC-05)
Randy Neugebauer (TX-19)
Rich Nugent (FL-05)
Steven Palazzo (MS-04)
Steve Pearce (NM-02)
Mike Pence (IN-06)
Ted Poe (TX-02)
Tom Price (GA-06)
Denny Rehberg (MT-At large)
David Roe (TN-01)
Dennis Ross (FL-12)
Edward Royce (CA-40)
Steve Scalise (LA-01)
Pete Sessions (TX-32)
Adrian Smith (NE-03)
Lamar Smith (TX-21)
Cliff Stearns (FL-06)
Tim Walberg (MI-07)
Joe Walsh (IL-08)
Allen West (FL-22)
Lynn Westmoreland (GA-03)
Joe Wilson (SC-02)

bachmann.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=226594
 
JimR-OCDS said:
FYI

Members of the Tea Party Caucus

Washington, Feb 28, 2011 - Here is a list of those Members of Congress who have officially joined the Tea Party Caucus for the 112th Congress (Updated 7/12/11):

Sandy Adams (FL-24)
Robert Aderholt (AL-04)
Todd Akin (MO-02)
Rodney Alexander (LA-05)
Michele Bachmann (MN-06)
Roscoe Bartlett (MD-06)
Joe Barton (TX-06)
Rob Bishop (UT-01)
Gus Bilirakis (FL-09)
Diane Black (TN-06)
Paul Broun (GA-10)
Michael Burgess (TX-26)
Dan Burton (IN-05)
John Carter (TX-31)
Bill Cassidy (LA-06)
Howard Coble (NC-06)
Mike Coffman (CO-06)
Ander Crenshaw (FL-04)
John Culberson (TX-07)
Jeff Duncan (SC-03)
Blake Farenthold (TX-27)
Stephen Lee Fincher (TN-08)
John Fleming (LA-04)
Trent Franks (AZ-02)
Phil Gingrey (GA-11)
Louie Gohmert (TX-01)
Vicky Hartzler (MO-04)
Wally Herger (CA-02)
Tim Huelskamp (KS-01)
Lynn Jenkins (KS-02)
Steve King (IA-05)
Doug Lamborn (CO-05)
Jeff Landry (LA-03)
Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO-09)
Kenny Marchant (TX-24)
Tom McClintock (CA-04)
David McKinley (WV-01)
Gary Miller (CA-42)
Mick Mulvaney (SC-05)
Randy Neugebauer (TX-19)
Rich Nugent (FL-05)
Steven Palazzo (MS-04)
Steve Pearce (NM-02)
Mike Pence (IN-06)
Ted Poe (TX-02)
Tom Price (GA-06)
Denny Rehberg (MT-At large)
David Roe (TN-01)
Dennis Ross (FL-12)
Edward Royce (CA-40)
Steve Scalise (LA-01)
Pete Sessions (TX-32)
Adrian Smith (NE-03)
Lamar Smith (TX-21)
Cliff Stearns (FL-06)
Tim Walberg (MI-07)
Joe Walsh (IL-08)
Allen West (FL-22)
Lynn Westmoreland (GA-03)
Joe Wilson (SC-02)

bachmann.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=226594
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All I see are Republicans.🤷
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Is there even a Tea Party any more? They were supposed to be the New Sheriff in Town, tough and full of sound and fury, but I read nothing of them and hear nothing of how they’re the new king makers or policy directors.

Flash in the pan??
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They are still there. The media just stopped covering them. It’s sort of like pro-life marches. They happen every year, but you won’t see them in the news.
 
rlg94086 said:
They are still there. The media just stopped covering them. It’s sort of like pro-life marches. They happen every year, but you won’t see them in the news.
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Apparently this “flash in the pan” impotent Tea Party was able to eject Richard Lugar (Obama’s favorite Republican) from the seat he’s held for 35 years.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Apparently this “flash in the pan” impotent Tea Party was able to eject Richard Lugar (Obama’s favorite Republican) from the seat he’s held for 35 years.
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Yep…though I’m sure Lugar’s age may have also been a factor, the Tea Party was definitely a major factor.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Fine, put up your self-presumed facts.

Jim
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No problem.

Democrats, either directly (by party platform) or indirectly (through the ACLU, et al), have actively supported, and through the courts and the educational system, forced societal acceptance of the following (only a partial list, in alphabetical order): Abortion
Abolition of private property
Abolition of tradition
Adultery
Affirmative Action
“Alternative lifestyles”
Anti-Americanism
Anti-democracy
Anti-conservative speech
Anti-school choice
Anti-subsidiarity
Assisted suicide
Death taxes
Defiance of legitimate authority
Distribution of condoms in K-12
Diversity (except viewpoint)
Euthanasia
Female masturbation workshops in universities
Fornication
Glorification of debauchery
Godless Marxism
“Hate” crimes laws
Hate for the Christian religion
Hate for those of faith (except Islamics and Islamic bombers)
Homosexual special rights
Intolerance of the good
Isolationism
K-12 Indoctrination into Godless Marxism
K-12 Indoctrination into homosexuality
K-12 sex education
Lack of moral clarity
Moral equivalency
Moral Relativism
Nietzscheism
Obliteration of God from the public square
Parole of vicious criminals
Pedophilia (except by Catholic priests and Republicans)
Polylogism
Pro-Europeanism
Racial quotas
Radical egalitarianism
Redistribution of OTHER peoples’ money
Release of known terrorists
Same-sex “marriage”
Sodomy
Speech codes
The individual human will (will to power)
Tolerance of evil
Tolerance Über Alles
UN one-world government
Unlimited government
Unlimited taxation
“Victimless” crimes
Voting rights for aliens (legal or otherwise)
Voting rights for felons

All this from a Party that claims it wants to prevent some from “forcing their beliefs on others.” Of course, the Democrats have innocuous sounding terms for those of the above with which the average voter is familiar, and if one were to be against any, he would immediately (if not sooner) be accused of “denying others their ‘civil rights’.” If one were to doubt Democratic Party support for the above, I challenge that person to imagine who would be the ones to fight a proposed law to make just one of the above illegal.

One writer summed it up as the Democratic Party’s “fascination with death and communism is the prime mover of its dementia.”

I never heard it put any better.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Politics is the art of compromise.

The Tea Party members of congress, nearly shut down the government, and brought our bond rating to junk bond status.

Whether you like it or not, the government still has to run, and part of that is providing for the safety and welfare of society, not just supporting the military and big corporate business.

Even Boehner was put into a corner after his compromise with the administration was thrown back in his face by the Tea Party members.

Like it or not, Social Security and Medicaid are here to stay.

Like it or not, roads and bridges must be repaired.

Like it or not, if we don’t help our kids get an education, we’ll end up as a 3rd world nation where only the rich will be educated and in control of every part of our lives.

Yes, when Nancy Pelosi was speaker, she and her peers went on a spending spree that even Obama tried to stop, but not having the political clout, failed.

However, he did manage to keep us out of a great depression, that is a unarguable fact.

If Mitt Romney becomes president with the current legislature, he’ll be hamstrung and will fail just as bad if not worse than Obama. Romney is an expert in working with the opposition party, but the Tea Party members are an opposition that even he won’t be successful with, because of their narrow minded ideological beliefs.

OH, and Romney would won the GOP nomination back in 2007, if not for the Religious right which controlled the GOP, and rejected him because he’s a Mormon.

Yes, the GOP has been ruined by the extreme right wing Tea Party members, who haven’t a clue on how to run government.

Jim
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What a great post. It means more coming from you than from me. I know we don’t agree on everything, but I really respect your views.

I’m glad you mentioned the Tea Party/right wing achievement that lowered the USA’s credit rating. What a huge mess.

To be honest, if the GOP still had the policies of Eisenhower, I’d be a Republican. But Eisenhower or even Nixon wouldn’t recognize the GOP in its current form.
 
Jerry_Miah said:
What a great post. It means more coming from you than from me. I know we don’t agree on everything, but I really respect your views.

I’m glad you mentioned the Tea Party/right wing achievement that lowered the USA’s credit rating. What a huge mess.

To be honest, if the GOP still had the policies of Eisenhower, I’d be a Republican. But Eisenhower or even Nixon wouldn’t recognize the GOP in its current form.
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The fact that we’re here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is **a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means ‘The buck stops here.’ **Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit. - Barack Obama

I guess you can blame everyone but the leader, if you want…
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Politics is the art of compromise.

The Tea Party members of congress, nearly shut down the government, and brought our bond rating to junk bond status.
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That’s quite a feat for only 13% of the members of the House to accomplish.
 
ishii said:
So if something becomes a norm, then it ceases being extreme left? So if a majority accepted the ideology of Rick Santorum, then it would cease being “far right” ? Just trying to understand your logic - please explain without calling me names, if you can.

Ishii
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I haven’t called you a single name, and yet you keep accusing me of doing so. Please stop the flame-baiting
 
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