Score One For Satan!!

[rcwhiteh]

If I was a priest working for death row, I’d stop attending such death murder sessions and work in a real church.

Well, you aren’t, so chill. Besides, Satan doesn’t need you to keep score for him; he has plenty of bean-counters to do that for him.

Otherwise, they’ll never get into heaven.

I’m glad to know you can speak authoritatively about these things - NOT!

Don’t you think it’s a sin to rejoice in someone sent to death, regardless of what the person did?

Let’s see; Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Gary Gilmore, Timothy McVeigh; nope, don’t think it’s a sin to rejoice in SEEING JUSTICE DONE.

Sit down, take a deep breath and wipe the foam off your chin; now listen carefully:

Society has the prerogative of removing from its numbers those who cannot abide by the law; if one violates the highest laws (like rape, murder or treason), the removal can be made permanent and inescapable by putting the miscreant to death. I’d like to have the individual repent of his sin and be made just, but his punishment must be carried out; otherwise, all anyone would have to do is fake repentance and get off scot-free. Whether or not we as Catholics, Christians or whatever would seek such vengeance is irrelevant; governments are not held to the same standard as individuals - nor should they be.

I don’t know if Peterson deserves death; I didn’t get to review the evidence, so I’ll have to trust in the jury. I will admit that had Laci been MY daughter, Scott would have been in front of St. Peter so fast the air would crackle.

 

[porthos11]

777:

If I was a priest working for death row, I’d stop attending such death murder sessions and work in a real church.

You bloke, listen to yourself. The chaplains are not the ones sending these people to the death chamber, the courts did that in accordance with the law. Are you saying that if you were a priest, you would NEGLECT the spiritual well-being of these people just because of your naive pacifism? These are the people who need priests more than ever!!! Your presence at the execution is does not reflect your stance on the death penalty; it shows your support for the offender to the end. Many death convicts are now in heaven despite their crimes because of courageous priests who sacrificed their time and effort to lead them back to God before they died.

For that matter, if I was the personally doing thease death sessions to those earmarked, I’d quit that job, repent, and be a priest.

Fine.

As such, me and my family can only pray thet they that seek death penalties, including those that personally do the death setences on those people (and get meadals for their work) , see the light someday quit such jobs, repent and be priests and nuns, depending on their gender. Amen. Otherwise, they’ll never get into heaven. Don’t you think it’s a sin to rejoice in someone sent to death, regardless of what the person did?

It is not good to rejoice in death, even a just execution. All who die need prayers for their souls.

But I’m amazed at your wisdom that you actually know who’s not going to heaven, since not even the Church knows that. You are indeed wiser than the Church, apparently.

Agan, stop imposing your pacifism on us. You may remain a pacifist, but drop the self-righteousness.

 

[777]

porthos11:

You bloke, listen to yourself. The chaplains are not the ones sending these people to the death chamber, the courts did that in accordance with the law. Are you saying that if you were a priest, you would NEGLECT the spiritual well-being of these people just because of your naive pacifism? These are the people who need priests more than ever!!! Your presence at the death session is does not reflect your stance on the death penalty; it shows your support for the offender to the end. Many death convicts are now in heaven despite their crimes because of courageous priests who sacrificed their time and effort to lead them back to God before they died.

Fine.

It is not good to rejoice in death, even a death penalty. All who die need prayers for their souls.

But I’m amazed at your wisdom that you actually know who’s not going to heaven, since not even the Church knows that. You are indeed wiser than the Church, apparently.

Agan, stop imposing your pacifism on us. You may remain a pacifist, but drop the self-righteousness.

Whatever. Jesus did say there would be disvisions among people. These days, there ain’t a thing that seems just, despite the claims…Go figure…

 

[Mom_of_one]

Ouch! I certainly believe that the death penalty was a just decision in this case, though he’ll probably die in prison before they execute him(due to the appeals process). I do pray that he genuinely repents. I personally think that the attitudes of people who hope he “rots in hell” or who wanted revenge are what gives the devil another score(s). I was one of them. I was VERY glad that the jury gave him the death penalty because the … never mind, I don’t want to repeat what I thought. But that kind of thinking just gives the devil a foothold. I still believe it is the right decision, but now I am sad. Mainly for his family. May God have mercy on him and may God have mercy on me and give me the grace to pray for him. And, in what I think is poetic justice, he will be sent to a prison that overlooks the bay where he dumped Laci and Conner’s bodies.

 

[777]

Momofone:

Ouch! I certainly believe that the death penalty was a just decision in this case, though he’ll probably die in prison before they revenge murder him(due to the appeals process). I do pray that he genuinely repents. I personally think that the attitudes of people who hope he “rots in hell” or who wanted revenge are what gives the devil another score(s). I was one of them. I was VERY glad that the jury gave him the death penalty because the … never mind, I don’t want to repeat what I thought. But that kind of thinking just gives the devil a foothold. I still believe it is the right decision, but now I am sad. Mainly for his family. May God have mercy on him and may God have mercy on me and give me the grace to pray for him. And, in what I think is poetic justice, he will be sent to a prison that overlooks the bay where he dumped Laci and Conner’s bodies.

But it won’t bring Laci and Conner back @ all. That shows you how the devil’s got control over America. Betcha the ones that personally do the death sessions on Scott get medals for their work and apper on talk shows. May God and Jesus have mercy on the jurors anfd the ones that will personally do the death on Scotty. May they repent afterwards, quit their jobs and be priests. Better still, If the judicial system’s going to be tough on crooks, why not even deny them a chance to even see a priest, much less get last rites from them so they can head for hell burdened with guilt for enternity, facing unbearable romorse forever, to ensure justice. By the way does anyone know the name of the one set to do the honors?

 

[AmyS]

777:

But it won’t bring Laci and Conner back @ all. That shows you how the devil’s got control over America. Betcha the ones that personally do the death sessions on Scott get medals for their work and apper on talk shows. May God and Jesus have mercy on the jurors anfd the ones that will personally do the death on Scotty. May they repent afterwards, quit their jobs and be priests. Better still, If the judicial system’s going to be tough on crooks, why not even deny them a chance to even see a priest, much less get last rites from them so they can head for hell burdened with guilt for enternity, facing unbearable romorse forever, to ensure justice. By the way does anyone know the name of the one set to do the honors?

What honors are you talking about?

 

[MrS]

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The Fugitive. Harrison Ford was in the movie.

That was the remake,
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[777]

AmyS:

What honors are you talking about?

The one that will personally do the death session on Scott.

 

[EddieArent]

The Catechism of the Council of Trent is very clear on this. This man is pure evil and should be put to death. That way Satan will NOT win. No, my friend, what would be a win for Satan is if this human were to spend the rest of his life with minimum time behind bars but able to play sports, watch tv, have cookies, etc. That would be a win for Satan to have such evil on the face of the earth.

Does California still use “old sparky”? I’d sign up to flip the switch if I lived on the left coast. For the matter, I’d eventually find a vein for an injection shot.

 

[JimG]

Probably the only immediate effect of the death penalty in this case will be to ensure that he doesn’t go into the general prison population, where his life expectancy would likely be shorter. I don’t think that California has actually executed anyone for about 11 years, and there is a waiting list on death row that they will probably never get around to.

The only problem I see with life in prison is this:
I know of several cases just in my own state, where convicted multiple murderers were sentenced to consecutive life terms, in one case four consecutive life terms. That prisoner just came up for parole–for the 4th time! What good is a life sentence when they keep coming up for parole?

 

[Faithful_2_Rome]

What Peterson done was pure evil…but he is not pure evil… this is the teaching of the Church…and he has the chance for a conversion just as much as anyone else…maybe even more so.

I doubt he will mingle among the general prison population…he’s a marked man for sure… and with the amount of time it takes California to execute, he’ll probably die from old age or being murdered before he gets executed.

Instead of wanting to “sign up” for pulling his switch or finding his vein, how about just a short prayer that he is given the gift of grace to repent so he can gain his salvation before he dies?

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

777:

REPENT!! The world is coming to an end!! It seems that Satan just triumphed in influencing the setence givers in choosing the sin of revenge murder aka the death penalty for Scott Perterson. Those poor souls just opened up to the Devil and the sin of revenge. Don’t they know that revenge murdering Scott won’t AT ALL bring Lacey and her baby back? Whatever happened to two wrongs don’t make a right? To hell with an eye for an eye–If me and my family wore the jurors, we’d refuse death, even if it means losing everything.

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[Exporter]

The jurors used Pure Emotion to render the verdict!

There was absolutely ZERO evidence that tied Scott P. to the death of his wife. There was no forensic evidence whatsoever!

The jury acted from anger and emotion. They were instructed to act on the evidence.

I would have had to vote not guilty.

 

[777]

EddieArent:

The Catechism of the Council of Trent is very clear on this. This man is pure evil and should be put to death. That way Satan will NOT win. No, my friend, what would be a win for Satan is if this human were to spend the rest of his life with minimum time behind bars but able to play sports, watch tv, have cookies, etc. That would be a win for Satan to have such evil on the face of the earth.

Does California still use “old sparky”? I’d sign up to flip the switch if I lived on the left coast. For the matter, I’d eventually find a vein for an injection shot.

Not me and my family. The Catechism of the Council of Trent was underpressure form the goverments to agree to revenger murder Do the words, “the damage is done” mean anything? If Satan doesn’t win though Scott, he can win through someone else that can pick up where Scott left off. There’s way too many killers as it is, so why doesen’t the goverment initiate a mass slaughter of everyone worldwide and in death row, a la The Final Solution? 'Sides, don’t you know how costly these death sessions cost in taxpayer’s money? Life in jail is the more humane way. Evil or not, whatevr happened to forgive our enemies? Remember what Jesus said when he was crucified? Did the apostles seek the death penalty on the Phairasees when they and the crowd stoned Stephen? No, the the ones that voted for death, and the ones that personlly death these people, will they go to heaven for that, even if they don’t repent? That make Roe V. Wade pale. /it’s the same as endorsing Abortion, mercy kills and porno in some ways. If everyone wants Scott dead, why not allow Lacey’s loved ones do the honor of personally revenge murdering Scott themselves? Does it please God and his that everyone should die? It’s a sin to rejoice in someone dying like that. Will the jurors and the revenge killers be having parties and celebrations afterwards to celebrate the death of a man? My family will STILL pray that those people–the jurors and the death row staff and the one who will be given the honor of murdering Scott–will see the light someday, repent for what they did, and quit their jobs to be priests, lest they never enter heaven. Like I said, it it won’t bring Lacey and Conner back at all. What’s scary is that if Scott had any friends (which may be doubful), that person may one vow revenge on the the ones that convicted Scott as well as the revinger murderer, stalk them, track them down, and murder them in revenge for Scott. We’ve seen that sort on thing happen on crime shows and stuff. Whatever happened to two wrongs don’t make a right? Such people, in rejoicing that a man die…what good is that?

So for the benefit of these people, we pray:

Oh, my Jesus!! Forgive us our sins!! Save us from the fires of Hell and failure eternal. Lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy!!

Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of mercy, hail our life, our sweetness and our hope!! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve!! To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in the vale of tears!! Turn them, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy towards us and after that, our exile, show unto us, the blessed friut of thy womb, Jesus!! O clement, O loving, O sweet blessed Mary!!

Father, forgive them, for they not know what they’re doing…

Amen.

 

[777]

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Well put!!

 

[Brendan]

Faithful 2 Rome:

They say only if a person poses a threat to someones life, but once behind bars they can do no harm to anyone.

That’s not true. Just about the only case I can see for the death penalty is for very violent criminals who would pose a threat to other prisoners.

The United States has a very good justice system that can separate a criminal from society very well. Someone locked up for life is not a threat to me or you. But that doesn’t mean they still are not a threat.

Prison murders can and do happen. And it is very hard to protect against that without submitting large numbers of prisoners to permanent solitary confinement.

Someone who has been convicted of a crime and who is serving their sentenced time deserves to be protected from violent murders as much as we do.

The type of person this would affect would be very very rare, and Scott Peterson doesn’t rise to that level.

 

[AmyS]

Exporter:

The jurors used Pure Emotion to render the verdict!

There was absolutely ZERO evidence that tied Scott P. to the death of his wife. There was no forensic evidence whatsoever!

The jury acted from anger and emotion. They were instructed to act on the evidence.

I would have had to vote not guilty.

Wow, you must have been in that jury room… Or you have ESP… Sure they where emotional, why wouldn’t they be. But, there was plenty of circumstantial evidence to convict him, and that was all they needed.

 

[AmyS]

Brendan:

That’s not true. Just about the only case I can see for the death penalty is for very violent criminals who would pose a threat to other prisoners.

The United States has a very good justice system that can separate a criminal from society very well. Someone locked up for life is not a threat to me or you. But that doesn’t mean they still are not a threat.

Prison murders can and do happen. And it is very hard to protect against that without submitting large numbers of prisoners to permanent solitary confinement.

Someone who has been convicted of a crime and who is serving their sentenced time deserves to be protected from violent murders as much as we do.

The type of person this would affect would be very very rare, and Scott Peterson doesn’t rise to that level.

People who work in prisons also get killed, not, just prisoners…

Scott, as well as everyone, deserves their life to repent. I won’t hold my breath on him though. He seems like a sociopath to me. They don’t typically, take repentence or remorse seriously. They don’t have the capablility to. But, that is up to God to judge. I pray for all of their souls. Scott was not the victim in this. Although, he needs prayers.

 

[AmyS]

777:

Evil or not, whatevr happened to forgive our enemies?

What did these people do towards you personally?

 

[JHutch]

EddieArent:

Does California still use “old sparky”? I’d sign up to flip the switch if I lived on the left coast. For the matter, I’d eventually find a vein for an injection shot.

The Condemned of California get to chose how they wish to be put to Death. Their options are 1) The Gas Chamber 2) Lethal Injection.

Several years ago one who was about to meet his fate sued on the grounds that the Gas Chamber was cruel and unusual punishment, especially since other states had (name removed by moderator)lemented Lethal Injection which seems more humane.

It was argued that the man would rather be put to death by injection. The Court decided that the Condemned should be given the option. The man got his wish(be careful what you ask for???) and was executed by Lethal Injection.
*** Too bad the Courts can’t give murder/abortion victims a couple of choices. ***