Sean Hannity faces-off with Priest who calls him heretic

[AlegreFe]

Here is something that I typed out from listening to Fr. E. on Relevant Radio this past Tuesday. He was on the Drew Mariani show. You could actually download the show from the audio archives. You have to be registered to do that. Registration is free and so is the audio of the radio show.

A woman called in applauding Fr. E. for saying that he would withhold Communion from Sean. She said that people who are apart from the Church should be denied Communion. She also said that Father was actually showing Sean Mercy. She said either it’s 100% or nothing, black or white. Then Father made it clear that he does not know people’s souls and that he could not refuse anyone Communion just because he has an opinion about a person and then Father said this;

"…in the case of Sean Hannity, he’s a public dissenter from
this and he’s obstinate in it, okay, that’s the classic definition
of heresy. And I have confronted him with it. I tried privately to
confront him with it and he didn’t come back to me and allow
me to have a meeting with him about this and then he himself
invited me on this. He has reaffirmed time and time again that
he’s in public desent against Church teaching. What choice
would I have in a case like that?"

The only choice… to withhold Communion from Sean.

 

[AlegreFe]

Catholics may have the OPINION that contraception is immoral, just as all of Christendom had prior to the 1930’s. That doesn’t make that opinion correct or prov-]e/-]able.

What makes you so sure that it’s an OPINION? And what makes you think that the use of Contraception being evil is not provable?

Even if it’s not provable, which it is btw, that doesn’t give anyone the right to use ABC. God said to be fruitful and multiply. The marital act should be fully OPEN to LIFE. We should not be the ones to decide that a new life should not be born into our lives by putting up a barrier or by killing that new life that has been conceived in the womb.

The Sacrament of Marriage is a very Holy Sacrament that emparts grace in the marriage to the couple. Marriage is a Sacrifice. They are to give each other fully and completely. He is to lay down his life for her and give himself completely to her, including his ability to father a child (if his ability exists by God’s will). This marital act is to remain fully open to life each and every time it is performed. The wife is to be fully open to receive the man’s love, fully and completely open to life. The man gives, the woman receives. If anything is blocking any of that, then it is not in conformity with God’s Will. God’s Will is plainly stated in Scripture. The Church adds to it with revelation from the Holy Spirit by the handing down of Sacred Tradition and Magisterial teachings.

a_cermak:

As a non-Catholic, I guess I can say that I don’t believe contraception is immoral, unless your beliefs tell you it is.

So who is telling you that contraception is not immoral? Your beliefs? From where do your beliefs come? From your church? Does your church have authority by Apostolic succession? Can you trace your Pastors and Ministers in your church back to the Apostles by the laying on of hands, Apostolic succession?

 

[Nordar]

Excellent posts Allegre:clapping: :clapping:

 

[AlegreFe]

Excellent posts Allegre:clapping: :clapping:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i85/Alegre-Fe/Emoticons/Blush.gif Thanks, but ALL for the Glory of GOD! :bowdown2:

You can call me Sandy.

 

[Maratom]

I became suspicious of Sean Hannity when he would bring Jerry Falwell on his radio show to speak about matters of religion instead of a Catholic priest or theologian.

 

[AlegreFe]

I became suspicious of Sean Hannity when he would bring Jerry Falwell on his radio show to speak about matters of religion instead of a Catholic priest or theologian.

:bigyikes: Huh?! Falwell?! What is Sean thinking?! :hypno:

He really needs our prayers.

 

[a_cermak]

Does your church have authority by Apostolic succession? Can you trace your Pastors and Ministers in your church back to the Apostles by the laying on of hands, Apostolic succession?

Yes for the most part, a great many Bishops in my Church have had Bishops from the Old Roman Catholic Church, which does have unquestioned Apostolic succession, present during the elevation for this specific purpose.

 

[AlegreFe]

Yes for the most part, a great many Bishops in my Church have had Bishops from the Old Roman Catholic Church, which does have unquestioned Apostolic succession, present during the elevation for this specific purpose.

“…for the most part” is not ALL.
“a great many” is not ALL.
“Have had” is past tense. There have been many bishops that have excommunicated themselves and therefore breaking the succession.

 

[susiem]

Here is something that I typed out from listening to Fr. E. on Relevant Radio this past Tuesday. He was on the Drew Mariani show. You could actually download the show from the audio archives. You have to be registered to do that. Registration is free and so is the audio of the radio show.

A woman called in applauding Fr. E. for saying that he would withhold Communion from Sean. She said that people who are apart from the Church should be denied Communion. She also said that Father was actually showing Sean Mercy. She said either it’s 100% or nothing, black or white. Then Father made it clear that he does not know people’s souls and that he could not refuse anyone Communion just because he has an opinion about a person and then Father said this;

"…in the case of Sean Hannity, he’s a public dissenter from
this and he’s obstinate in it, okay, that’s the classic definition
of heresy. And I have confronted him with it. I tried privately to
confront him with it and he didn’t come back to me and allow
me to have a meeting with him about this and then he himself
invited me on this. He has reaffirmed time and time again that
he’s in public desent against Church teaching. What choice
would I have in a case like that?"

The only choice… to withhold Communion from Sean.

Probably, the godly place to have stopped speaking…of course, I think that our opinions may differ, but many devout Catholics who I’ve counseled with say that this is their understanding of an individual priest’s role in the handling of this most sacred sacrament…do you remember the Bishop in Les Miserables? Now that was a lesson that will live on forever in the life of every sinner…mercy is greater than judgement. Jesus came to save the sinner… the righteous had no need of salvation…or at least they didn’t think that they needed salvation, mercy, or forgiveness.

 

[Swiss_Guard]

Anybody know if Sean really said this on his radio show?:

Mr. Hannity is not backing down, saying on Monday’s radio program that if he were excommunicated he would call the Rev. Jerry Falwell and ask to join his Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Va.

It was reported in the Washington Times. I hope it’s not true.:nope:

Sean Hannity would probably be more at home with Rev. Falwell than in the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

Hannity and Falwell both support the war in Iraq. Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI both came out against the war.

Hannity and Falwell both believe Bush can do no wrong. Both are more concerned with their public image than with the truth.

Hannity abandoned the faith long ago. He’s no different than a Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, or Nancy Pelosi. He will trot out his Catholic faith when it’s to his advantage. He comes up short when he has to live the faith. He’ll proudly claim how Catholic he is when he needs to play up to his Catholic audience but then bullies anyone who instructs him he’s not practicing his faith. He’s just the same as Kennedy, Kerry, and Pelosi, except that he’s a Republican hack.

The best thing we can do is turn off his TV and radio shows. We don’t need to waste our time listening to this pompous blowhard judge everyone else while whining and crying when he gets judged.

Hannity should reconsider his “judge not lest ye be judged” line. If Hannity ever stopped judging people, he’d be flipping burgers at McDonald’s.

Actually, society would be better served if Hannity were flipping burgers.

 

[scott1228]

First of all, what happened to HLI? When the venerable Father Paul Marx was in charge, they focused on spreading a positive message regarding the church’s teaching on sexuality.

Secondly, why focus on Sean Hannity? Granted, his stance on this ONE tenet of morality is not in sync with the Church, by why focus on him when there are more prominent supposedly Catholic celebrities and politicians who reject All of Catholic moral teaching as well as the authority of the Holy Father. Ever hear of embryonic stem cell research, in vitro fertilization, cloning, gay marriage, extramarital affairs, divorce and remarriage, legal abortion at all stages, assisted suicide, legalization of drugs? Do you know that one of the political parties openly backs all of these things? So why the focus on Sean Hannity?

Human Life International, you can do better.

 

[Swiss_Guard]

First of all, what happened to HLI? When the venerable Father Paul Marx was in charge, they focused on spreading a positive message regarding the church’s teaching on sexuality.

Secondly, why focus on Sean Hannity? Granted, his stance on this ONE tenet of morality is not in sync with the Church, by why focus on him when there are more prominent supposedly Catholic celebrities and politicians who reject All of Catholic moral teaching as well as the authority of the Holy Father. Ever hear of embryonic stem cell research, in vitro fertilization, cloning, gay marriage, extramarital affairs, divorce and remarriage, legal abortion at all stages, assisted suicide, legalization of drugs? Do you know that one of the political parties openly backs all of these things? So why the focus on Sean Hannity?

Human Life International, you can do better.

Sean Hannity invited Fr. Euteneuer on his show. Fr. Euteneuer wrote a column about Hannity’s erroneous position on artificial contraception because Hannity claims to be Catholic. Any Catholic who publicly dissents from Church teaching should be focused on.

So what you’re saying is if someone is a liberal Democrat and dissents from Church teaching that’s wrong but if someone is a neocon Repbulican and does the same the Church should give that person a pass.

HLI in particular and the Church in general should just go after Democrats who dissent from Church teaching. Let’s leave the Republicans alone because they’re the “good” guys.

Hannity defenders need to ask themselves this question: What am I first - a Catholic or a Republican?

Sounds to me like we have people who are Republican first and Catholic second.

 

[MrS]

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Hannity defenders need to ask themselves this question: What am I first - a Catholic or a Republican?

Sounds to me like we have people who are Republican first and Catholic second.

Sad, but true… well said.

 

[Spence06]

Hannity defenders need to ask themselves this question: What am I first - a Catholic or a Republican?

Sounds to me like we have people who are Republican first and Catholic second.

I was defending Hannity(to a point) and I am not a Republican. To assert that if you disagree in the mode in which Fr. Tom spoke, you demean your own Catholicism, is completely absurd.

 

[Nordar]

First of all, what happened to HLI? When the venerable Father Paul Marx was in charge, they focused on spreading a positive message regarding the church’s teaching on sexuality.

Secondly, why focus on Sean Hannity? Granted, his stance on this ONE tenet of morality is not in sync with the Church, by why focus on him when there are more prominent supposedly Catholic celebrities and politicians who reject All of Catholic moral teaching as well as the authority of the Holy Father. Ever hear of embryonic stem cell research, in vitro fertilization, cloning, gay marriage, extramarital affairs, divorce and remarriage, legal abortion at all stages, assisted suicide, legalization of drugs? Do you know that one of the political parties openly backs all of these things? So why the focus on Sean Hannity?

Human Life International, you can do better.

Sean Hannity focused on Sean Hannity, no one else, if you are going to post then make yourself knowledgable of all the facts.

 

[setter]

First of all, what happened to HLI? When the venerable Father Paul Marx was in charge, they focused on spreading a positive message regarding the church’s teaching on sexuality.

This is exactly what Fr. Enteneur did – simply present the truth of the Church’s positive teaching on sexual morality to counter the counterfeit message by the self-proclaimed ‘Catholic’ Sean Hannity. How could the good Father be anymore positive than that?

 

[Swiss_Guard]

I was defending Hannity(to a point) and I am not a Republican. To assert that if you disagree in the mode in which Fr. Tom spoke, you demean your own Catholicism, is completely absurd.

My comment was to those who think like Scott, the ones complaining about “focusing” on Hannity when the Democrats are worse.

Disapproving of Fr. Euteneuer’s method is fine, as I said in another thread. I’m not talking about you when I say there are those who are Republican first and Catholic second.

I apologize if I came across as calling someone who disagrees with Fr. Euteneuer’s method like you have a Republican first and a Catholic second.

 

[susiem]

I was defending Hannity(to a point) and I am not a Republican. To assert that if you disagree in the mode in which Fr. Tom spoke, you demean your own Catholicism, is completely absurd.

Probably true, but then you must know that there are Catholics who are Democrats first and Catholic second…and in the last decade, I have a lot of sadness and concern about that b/c the Democratic platform is pro-abortion. concerning voting, I think we must all place our convictions about LIFE first before we vote…probably most on this forum do that…and as we mature and historically look at both party’s platforms we can see that being polictical should only be a small part of our lives…this is my belief anyway.

 

[Tom317]

Probably true, but then you must know that there are Catholics who are Democrats first and Catholic second…and in the last decade, I have a lot of sadness and concern about that b/c the Democratic platform is pro-abortion. concerning voting, I think we must all place our convictions about LIFE first before we vote…probably most on this forum do that…and as we mature and historically look at both party’s platforms we can see that being polictical should only be a small part of our lives…this is my belief anyway.

The majority of Catholics are cultural-Catholics and vote for the dems simply because they are the dems. They never bother to think about their faith.

 

[Dandelion_Wine]

The majority of Catholics are cultural-Catholics and vote for the dems simply because they are the dems. They never bother to think about their faith.

I wonder if this is true. I know A LOT of Catholics who vote for Democrats because they can’t stand Republicans, it’s not that they have any love for Democrats.