Hannity’s dissent, and that of groups like VoF and Call to Action. Elephants… etc are exactly what is hurting the Church… people easily get turned off by complacency, by weakened moral standards, and by “devout Catholics” who profess same.
He did not push me away, but I am pretty grounded in my faith. He would have probably pushed me away two years ago. He certainly did not wake anyone up to the effects of birth control because the whole conversation was a useless shouting match. But I can imagine for people who are ignorant of the church teaching, which is most people. They were just confused and probably turned off.
And devout catholics have a responsibility to present the truth in love, and father does not have the authority to declare Sean a heretic. Yes, Sean is wrong, but so are 96% of catholic couples who are using contraception. Clearly, the church is failing to properly educate the folk on the matter. Condemning someone on national television is not educating the folk.
Why not? He may not be a formal heretic as in tried by a Church court but by holding to heretical views that would make him a material heretic at least.
No one was condemned that is the problem right here. Charity is incorrectly seen today as a type of syrupy sentimentality. True charity does not tolerate error and does not allow public folks who claim to be Catholic to lead others astray. The coddling of sin in public has turned many away from the Church.
He condemned Sean’s position… charity REQUIRES that the Truth be spoken without comprimise.
How is that related to this debate? An authentic Christian, Protestant or not, would value a man who would stand with Christ. That means one who is willing to speak the truth even when few want to hear it. That is attractive to people.
False charity and coddling is not Christian in any way. What I find is that we tend to confuse charity with weakness. There is nothing weak about charity. There is nothing strong about nuancing public error.
I know the story of Onan and it’s very much open to interpretation. God very well could’ve killed Onan for not obeying the ancient law of sleeping with his brother’s wife to produce a child for him, not for spilling his seed.
That is your view. I see it very differently.
I was not accusing you of that. I was speaking generically.
Right or wrong, Sean was voicing what most mainstream Catholics believe based on ABC usage stats.The point is that Sean claims to be a good Catholic, but he promotes positions in opposition to the Catholic Church (at least on birth control) and viciously attacked the Church and Fr. Euteneuer on TV for them pointing out to Sean the error of his ways.
It is quite obvious that Sean must have some underlying agenda and has a personal grudge against the Church, as his behavior is unexplainable. He viciously attacked the Church as if he was not Catholic at all. I actually wonder if he really is. Regardless, Sean should be ashamed of himself.
Father has authority over the members of his parish. If he contacted Sean privately and was not effective, then he should have continued to pray for him and if he felt necessary, refer the matter to Sean’s bishop.
No, I would not be in favor of such a meeting because television is rarely the opportunity to provide pastoral care. And fox news is hardly the place to educate anybody.
Right or wrong? …what exactly was “right” about what Sean Hannity spewed?