Sexual Morality "Opt-out"

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10 parents want to “opt out” of the lesson that day because they feel it is “inappropriate” for us to be teaching sexual morality to their kids
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Parents are the primary educators of their children. This is their right. The Church is there to help, not replace.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/p...c_family_doc_08121995_human-sexuality_en.html
CilladeRoma said:
I am not sure how/why we would even entertain this request, but the Pastoral Administrator is
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Um, because you MUST. The parents’ rights cannot be usurped in this matter.
CilladeRoma said:
How did your parish/school handle it?
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You need to handle it graciously and promptly. The parents absolutely have the right to opt their child out of anything related to sexuality.

I suggest you develop something parents can use with their kids. The Church’s role is to assist the parents. So, if those parents want to handle this subject themselves, we should help them by giving them access to solid resources they can use. The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality foremost among them.
 
See, they don’t though. They don’t want their kids to know anything contained in the 6th Commandment. I think the right thing to do is to deny confirmation.
 
1ke said:
I suggest you develop something parents can use with their kids. The Church’s role is to assist the parents. So, if those parents want to handle this subject themselves, we should help them by giving them access to solid resources they can use. The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality foremost among them
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What if parents don’t want the subjects taught to their children at all? They want them to receive the Sacrament without having received that teaching?
 
CilladeRoma said:
Obviously you have not read the whole thread.
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I answered the questions you asked in your post. I don’t think answering your post has an inherent obligation to read the entire thread.

You are welcome to take my feedback or ignore it.
 
1ke said:
I suggest you develop something parents can use with their kids.
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If they don’t want correct Catholic catechesis, there’s nothing you can develop that would be acceptable to these parents. Even JPII’s works would be unacceptable, because they’re not ascribing to Catholic thought in the first place…if I’m now reading this correctly.
 
Well, your advice is useless, because all of this has already been done.

The parents don’t want to do the teaching and they don’t want it taught by anyone else either.

So, now what do you do?
 
Then it should be within the right of the bishop to deny confirmation to them.
 
And it is my responsibility as a catechist and my Pastor’s responsibility, as a shepherd to make sure that these kids, when presented to the Bishop for the Sacrament have been properly educated in the curriculum that the Bishop developed, which includes a part on Sexualy Morality.
 
So we just give up and let the chips fall where they may?
Wow.
Pretty harsh. Serves no good purpose. Certainly doesn’t serve the Lord.
 
You had no clue what was happening at your baptism either, but that does not mean that the sacrament was invalid, or did not impart to you spiritual graces. There was no cooperation with the Holy Spirit necessary on your part. Our Eastern brethern sometimes administer confirmation immediately after baptism.

I very much admire educators for picking up the slack where parents have failed. I am not saying knowledge or learning is bad. We will all learn and grow in our understandings and mature spiritually for the rest of our lives. All I’m saying is that we don’t have to cram everything in before Confirmation.

There’s nothing prudish about parents talking with their children about sexuality, that is normal and natural. I just don’t think catechism class is the place. I’ve said my peace. I’m off this thread. God bless all the educators out there!
 
CilladeRoma said:
The parents don’t want to do the teaching and they don’t want it taught by anyone else either.

So, now what do you do?
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You get uninvolved and you hand it off to your pastor. Your pastor, in consultation with the bishop, will decide whether or not he recommends the candidates for confirmation.

This is not a catechist or DRE issue at that point.
 
resolute said:
I would be one of the parents opting out. I don’t see why a discussion of sexual anything should be required for Confirmation. I didn’t get that type of instruction at CCD before my confirmation, neither did my parents, neither did my grandparents. Topics of a sexual nature should be discussed at home with your parents.
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As long as they can pass the test, great. If this is a way for some parents to either teach something other than what the Church teaches or to teach nothing at all, not so much. The parents have the right to teach it, but the pastor has a duty to confirm that the candidates have received the instruction necessary. If the candidate can say 10 years later, “well, I didn’t know that was the teaching of the Church,” that would be on the pastor whose duty it was to see that all the necessary teachings were covered.
 
I meant, if they don’t want the kids taught, but they want them confirmed, they must know everything already. Then there’s no need to be taught.
 
Which, if you would read the comments, is already happening.
Sorry that you don’t think I have any obligation in this at all.
Thankfully, my priest feels differently and wants my help and opinions on the matter.
Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut, I will file it in the appropriate place.
 
resolute said:
I would be one of the parents opting out. I don’t see why a discussion of sexual anything should be required for Confirmation. I didn’t get that type of instruction at CCD before my confirmation, neither did my parents, neither did my grandparents. Topics of a sexual nature should be discussed at home with your parents.
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I agree. At one of these programs a nun displayed a condom on her finger and told everyone how to use it. She said contraception was not allowed by the Church, but then why did she have to show everyone how to use it?
 
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