Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'

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Reality check:

There are 48 million Christians in the UK.
There are 1.6 million Muslims in the UK.

There are over 70,000 Churches in the UK.
There are about 800 Mosques in the UK.

A few Churches (most of which are disused anyway) being converted into Mosques is not going to make much difference. Muslims are not about to take over Britain.
Not to mention the 10 million non-Muslims not included in the above count (there are 60 million people in the UK).

It won’t work, Kadaveri, they know that, when you’re not here, you’re with one of your numerous wives busily breeding for victory over (and enslavement of) the infidel Brits.
 
Sharia law should have the force of civil law in the West when there’s a Christian Cathedral in Mecca.
 
It won’t work, Kadaveri, they know that, when you’re not here, you’re with one of your numerous wives busily breeding for victory over (and enslavement of) the infidel Brits.
When he isn’t hitting them or making homemade artillery.
 
Not nearly enough to house 48 million practicing Christians, unless they have a seating capacity of more than 650,000 each.
:confused: jmcrae, is it just me or is there something that doesnt add up with your calculations?

48,000,000 Christians / 70000 churches = 686 approx. people.
 
I don’t think this message is getting across. What the Archbishop suggested is old hat, Muslims in Britain* already have *their own courts and have been using them for the last 25 years or so without a single complaint from the ‘one law for all’ crowd. The country has not descended into chaos because of it, on the other hand barely any non-Muslim seems to have even noticed.

This is just the media making an issue out of nothing.
Come, come, Kadaveri, the long range goal of Islam is to destroy all other religions and forms of government and for Islam and Muslims to set themselves up as masters of the world where all non-Muslims are either subjugated, humiliated and forced into Islam or killed!

Vickie
 
Come, come, Kadaveri, the long range goal of Islam is to destroy all other religions and forms of government and for Islam and Muslims to set themselves up as masters of the world where all non-Muslims are either subjugated, humiliated and forced into Islam or killed!
I second those sentiments. Although I believe that there are many decent Muslims out there, there are many who believe that all infidels should be subjected to dhimmitude or death.

You should all try to find the book Why I Left Jihad by Walid Shoebat. The guy was born in the so-called ‘Palestinean Territories’ and raised to hate Christians and Jews. He eventually became a terrorist and attempted to actually bomb an Israeli bank, although it failed. Later, he would come to faith in Christ and is now a strong supporter of Israel. Anyway, his book details what he saw within Islam and looks at passages in the Quran that our media loves to ignore. It is a very interesting and well-written book that I think is worth reading.
 
I second those sentiments. Although I believe that there are many decent Muslims out there, there are many who believe that all infidels should be subjected to dhimmitude or death.

You should all try to find the book Why I Left Jihad by Walid Shoebat. The guy was born in the so-called ‘Palestinean Territories’ and raised to hate Christians and Jews. He eventually became a terrorist and attempted to actually bomb an Israeli bank, although it failed. Later, he would come to faith in Christ and is now a strong supporter of Israel. Anyway, his book details what he saw within Islam and looks at passages in the Quran that our media loves to ignore. It is a very interesting and well-written book that I think is worth reading.
A lot of people just don’t realize that Muslims believe that the only religion that Allah accepts is Islam and that all non-Muslim countries really belong to them, that’s why they don’t integrate and want separate laws for themselves while actively working to undermine the laws of the host country in order to bring it under the heel of Islam. They’re using our misguided multiculturalism to achieve their aims and then set up their form of multiculturalism which is nothing like ours.

Check out this interview with ex-Muslim Abul Kasem at FrontPage Magazine. It gives a very clear and scary idea about the goals of Islam.
islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/Islamic-Multiculturalism-interview.htm

**FP: **Ok, so what exactly does Islamic Multiculturalism entail?

Kasem: As I have noted, Islamists simply love the western concept of multiculturalism. It suits them perfectly to press on with their agenda of Islamization of western societies, by using the concepts of western democracy, freedom of expression, secularism, and respect for diverse culture, religion, language, and tradition. The Islamists cleverly use these noble ideals and good intentions to defeat the western policy makers in their own game.
We must comprehend that the Islamists have a totally different idea of multiculturalism. The foundation of Islamic Multiculturalism is solidly based on the supremacy of Islam, primacy of the Arabs, and the global Islamic Ummah. They find the western concept of multiculturalism too easy to use to their advantage.

For example, when Australia organizes ‘interfaith dialogue,’ the Islamists find in it an unparallel opportunity to espouse the ‘beauty’ of Islam. Mainly funded by the infidel tax payers, the ‘interfaith dialogue’ has become the best platform to advance Islam in the west. Thanks to those Westerners who are ignorant about Islam and are gullible useful idiots, the Islamists are laughing all the way to the mosques, knowing full well that Islam is totally safe in the hands of western politicians. The Islamists have nothing to worry about in terms of their agenda to eventually impose Islam on the infidel lands. The politicians of the infidel territories are doing the job for them (i.e., promoting Islam). These politicians even appoint the Islamists as advisors or consultative group in tackling Islamic terrorism. What could be more ironic than this?
 
The Archbishop of Canterbury says the adoption of Islamic Sharia law in the UK seems “unavoidable”.

Dr Rowan Williams told Radio 4’s World at One that the UK has to “face up to the fact” that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.

Dr Williams argues that adopting some aspects of Sharia law would help maintain social cohesion…
He says Muslims should not have to choose between “the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty”.…

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7232661.stm
God save them from their own weakness.
 
I heard some of an interview with the Archbishop replayed on the Hugh Hewitt show. He believes that different groups can have different laws in the same country. That is just lunatic!

Certainly, people of faith can abide by stricter practices and even have some internal regulatory requirements (e.g. annulments), but crime and punishment laws of Sharia can’t be allowed within our laws. Can you imagine?! I mean they stone women for adultery in some countries under Sharia law. Does he really think the UK should allow that in the interest of diversity??
 
Probably true. 😛
I think he wanted to start a discussion on religious ‘courts’ (like Catholics and annulments and Jewish Beth Dins) - he just did it in the worst possible way!

My guess is that many (most) Muslims shuddered at yet another opportunity for people to moan about Islam and Muslims.
 
No one is advocating the establishing of Shariah law in an non Muslim country . But should not Muslims like Jewish people be able to have their own religious weddings and divorces according to their own beliefs. It was Muslims in their own lands who first allowed non Muslims to be able to practice their own laws and this was enshrined in Islamic law nearly 1400 years ago . It was Muslims who gave shelter to the jews when they were thrown out of Europe during the inquistion and during pogroms. Muslims never burnt people alive or tortured them for their beliefs. Islam is not associated with denial of human rights - actually historically Islam provided documentation for human rights.
West is still racist, xenophobic and Islamophobic. It is unable to forget and forgive the seige of Vienna in 1683.

The so called terrorism in Islam is just like a ‘mole-hill’, when compared to a mountain of ‘Western domination & terrorism’.

The so called “Western” Society has much larger & serious questions to answer than any Islamic Mulla or Islamic Extremist. When I see that Islam is being targeted as evil and barbaric – I cannot help but find what the so called ‘Modern Western Civilization’ has to offer – the worst things packaged in attractive sheets !
IA
londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
 
No one is advocating the establishing of Shariah law in an non Muslim country . But should not Muslims like Jewish people be able to have their own religious weddings and divorces according to their own beliefs. It was Muslims in their own lands who first allowed non Muslims to be able to practice their own laws and this was enshrined in Islamic law nearly 1400 years ago . It was Muslims who gave shelter to the jews when they were thrown out of Europe during the inquistion and during pogroms. Muslims never burnt people alive or tortured them for their beliefs. Islam is not associated with denial of human rights - actually historically Islam provided documentation for human rights.
West is still racist, xenophobic and Islamophobic. It is unable to forget and forgive the seige of Vienna in 1683.

The so called terrorism in Islam is just like a ‘mole-hill’, when compared to a mountain of ‘Western domination & terrorism’.

The so called “Western” Society has much larger & serious questions to answer than any Islamic Mulla or Islamic Extremist. When I see that Islam is being targeted as evil and barbaric – I cannot help but find what the so called ‘Modern Western Civilization’ has to offer – the worst things packaged in attractive sheets !
IA
londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
Ifti,

I’m not sure if you noticed that this thread is more than three years old.
 
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