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SamH
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He’s not the prosecutor, but he as already stated the motive for the crime even though he admits he has nothing to back it - but he will find it - even if it doesn’t exist.
Sheriff Dupnik's criticism of political 'vitriol' resonates with public
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ProVobis
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Now who’s blaming Bush?
See, that works both ways too.
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Whitacre_Girl
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It doesn’t mean they’ll let it go - they’ve gotten in too far with their conjecture and need to save face.
I guarantee that even if it comes out of the mouth of Laughner himself that he never heard of sarah palin, glenn beck, rush limbaugh or fox news, the Left will continue to say that this was only an example of what happens when the right spews their so-called “hate speech” (you know, hate speech being defined BY THEM as any opinion that does not agree with theirs
) and we can expect more because of the violent climate that the right ALONE is responsible for. Forget all the left’s use of military and violent rhetoric as well.
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SamH
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Considering Fred Phelps is a democrat that may not fly to well.
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FromTheAshes777
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AH HAH!
of course!
the answer is so clear now
It’s all Bush’s fault!
of course!
the answer is so clear now
It’s all Bush’s fault!
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ProVobis
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Perhaps, but someone always looks for threats to kill beforehand in a court of law seeking to prosecute the murderer. This happens all the time.
And there will be upteen counts of murder and manslaughter on this one so I suspect there’ll be many introductions of said threats, including those of politicians. Didn’t Palin already remove much of her rhetoric from as many websites as she could?
Hopefully some lessons will be learned from all this.
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Rich_Olszewski
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And, World Net Daily has been doing a lovely job of blaming only the left for the poisonous atmosphere. Hatred for the Left, hatred for the Right - ain’t it swell to be an American nowadays?
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FromTheAshes777
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sigh
please cite some evidence that this young man followed Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush, The Tea Party, or any other similar commentator or organization.
The only evidence so far that has come out about his influences is that he was interested in Hitler, Marx, and Che Guevara, which of course we know are all wonderful role models.
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SamH
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And who is the someone doing the looking? The man that clearly wants publicity more than he wants any kind of justice served.
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qui_est_ce
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The only remarks ON THIS THREAD that politicized the tragedy came from posters who are known for their leftist views on CAF. All the other posters, known for their conservative views called for prayer, and praised Obama’s response. Any condemnation of politicizing was in response to posters blaming right wing rhetoric. One poster, in fact, said there were conservatives who celebrating these murders. None of it substantiated, just speculation treated as fact.
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Whitacre_Girl
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Frankly, Fred Phelps is the same political party as Laughner - complete loony toon. People this far crazy aren’t capable of ANY political persuasion.
Have you guys seen this article?
foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/11/arizonans-rally-prevent-westboro-church-disruption-shooting-victims-funerals/
Apparently they are planning to picket the funeral of the 9 y.o. killed.
Not democrat, not republican, just totally bat you-know-what crazy!
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Whitacre_Girl
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Honestly, I thought this when I heard a sound byte of him this morning. He’s a no-name person holding a non-partisan office, and he is using this tragedy to stir the pot, cause controversy, and get himself in the paper. He should be ashamed. I guess everyone gets their 15 minutes right? May others use it for better causes.
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estesbob
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Pima County sheriff should remember duty
On Saturday afternoon, with his friend Gabby Giffords in surgery fighting for her life, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik railed against the tense partisan politics - “the anger, the hatred, the bigotry” - that prompted the mass murders outside Tucson, in his view.
And, jarring as such claims may be, we understood. Or tried to understand, despite the spectacle of a lawman - an official whose very job it is to dispassionately gather facts and to maintain order and calm - tying the attack on Rep. Giffords and others to political speech in Arizona, which he considers prejudiced and bigoted. There is no evidence that the state’s politics in any way contributed to this atrocity.
Was Dupnik unnecessarily inflammatory? It seemed so. But it came mere hours following a horrific, bloody mass murder. If you weren’t on edge, you weren’t being human. But then, on Sunday, the venting continued anew. And a horrified nation began paying closer attention to the Pima County sheriff.
Read more: azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/2011/01/11/20110111tue1-11.html#ixzz1Al59fSSe
On Saturday afternoon, with his friend Gabby Giffords in surgery fighting for her life, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik railed against the tense partisan politics - “the anger, the hatred, the bigotry” - that prompted the mass murders outside Tucson, in his view.
And, jarring as such claims may be, we understood. Or tried to understand, despite the spectacle of a lawman - an official whose very job it is to dispassionately gather facts and to maintain order and calm - tying the attack on Rep. Giffords and others to political speech in Arizona, which he considers prejudiced and bigoted. There is no evidence that the state’s politics in any way contributed to this atrocity.
Was Dupnik unnecessarily inflammatory? It seemed so. But it came mere hours following a horrific, bloody mass murder. If you weren’t on edge, you weren’t being human. But then, on Sunday, the venting continued anew. And a horrified nation began paying closer attention to the Pima County sheriff.
Read more: azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/2011/01/11/20110111tue1-11.html#ixzz1Al59fSSe
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Monte_RCMS
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Someone posted on another forum a huge “litany” of all the attacks against George W. Bush including some so vile I can’t even mention them here.AH HAH!
of course!
the answer is so clear now
It’s all Bush’s fault!
They were posted as a counter to the people who are claiming verbal incendiary attacks by the right.
I went to look for it, but I guess there was some sense of sensitivity by their moderator and they took it down. I guess it’s ok to go after Bush, but not ok to SAY that the left using the most heinous language was going after Bush.
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Rich_Olszewski
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Oh, dear. And, this leftist had specifically said that he offered his Sunday Mass for Giffords’ intention (and added her intention to daily Masses attended). You’ll have to forgive the little bit of politicizing that such might have seemed to be.
But, neither the rightists nor the leftists on the Forum are representative of the population as a whole, which is not Catholic and which might well harbor lesser or stronger feelings of animosity for the other side.
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Monte_RCMS
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It is extremely important to keep in mind the guidance of our former co-president and current Secretary of State, regarding the need for moderation and restraint in speech:
wikio.com/video/sick-tired—hillary-clinton-1417209
wikio.com/video/sick-tired—hillary-clinton-1417209
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ishii
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By politicizing, do you mean this?The Tea Partyists hated her victory over their candidate. Does anyone see dots to be connected? Just wondering.
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qui_est_ce
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You did say “connect the dots” in reference to right wing rhetoric. I must have missed the post where you offered Sunday mass. Good for you. We prayed for them on Sunday as well.
Rich, I was referring to posters here who made unsubstantiated speculations. I’m still waiting for links that Sarah Palin and Rush , among others, are celebrating this tragedy.
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SamH
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Sorry but the democrats are stuck with him. Al Gore used Fred Phelps and his family to campaign in 1988 and again in 1992. As a reward for his hard work Fred Phelps Jr was even invited to one of the Clinton Gore inaugural balls.Frankly, Fred Phelps is the same political party as Laughner - complete loony toon. People this far crazy aren’t capable of ANY political persuasion.
Have you guys seen this article?
foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/11/arizonans-rally-prevent-westboro-church-disruption-shooting-victims-funerals/
Apparently they are planning to picket the funeral of the 9 y.o. killed.
Not democrat, not republican, just totally bat you-know-what crazy!
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ishii
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Qui est ce, we are all waiting for some posters to actually back up their claims with examples and evidence. I think we’ll be waiting for a long time, as I believe they hold themselves to a different standard.
Ishii
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