Sheriff Dupnik's criticism of political 'vitriol' resonates with public

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Whitacre_Girl said:
Yikes, really? This really shocks me, given his animosity towards the US in general. I guess he’s changed over the years or something.

I vote that for NOW he probably registers under “bat you-know-what crazy” 😉 😛
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It shocks me as well. :eek:

I just know as well that the Democrats will NEVER admit their connection with him. Particularly Clinton or Gore. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
 
Gift_from_God said:
What do you expect when Michelle Bachman saying that she wants her supporters armed and dangerous?

What do you expect when Sharron Angle says Americans will have to resort to 2nd amendment remedies? In a developed country!

What do you expect when people vandalize congressional offices in response to health care reform?

I don’t know if this guy is far right wing, but I think he’s been manipulated by right wing talking points
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Yes. And if people would look at the interview of Gabby Gifford, months before the shooting, they would see that she was concerned about this type of rhetoric.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
.Phelps and His Brood are beyond Disgusting. Personally, I don’t consider Him or His Parishioners or his Immediate Family True Christians. This is so Vile in so many Levels it is not even “funny.”:rolleyes:⭕(
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I’d call them sickos, but they’re not sick, they know exactly what they’re doing. I can’t think of any parallel to their behavior anywhere, anytime before.
 
sidbrown said:
Yes. I agree that it promotes a bad atmosphere when people portray our President as Hitler.
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Nobody on this thread compared Obama to Hitler. In fact, I have seen only praise for Obama’s handling of the matter here.

Why do you bring up these nonsequitors?
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
I don’t think anyone is “celebrating” the tragedy, but I see that Ms. Palin has had her websites scrubbed of anything that might feed hatred. She, to be sure, was as horrified by the shooting as anyone else, and wholly innocent of any connection to it, but apparently there were some statements there that might be read the wrong way and which merited being reviewed and eliminated.

Civil discourse is a thing of the past and IMO gets less and less civil by the day. I dread what the presidential campaigns are going to be like next year.
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Believe it or not, Rich, I agree that it was somewhat irresponsible of Palin to put the now Infamous Target sign on Her Electoral Map------although I’m sure She now regrets it----that is why she removed it. However,
  1. Democrats also do the “Target” Thingy. The Daily Kos also had the same thing some days ago dealing with various electoral districts unfriendly to Healthcare. when they criticized Palin for the same thing, it was quite correctly pointed out to them the Hypocrisy of their Statements and as a result they Quietly Pulled their Map off of the Website. Out of Embarassment, I guess. :rolleyes:
  2. As Beck , O’Reilly and others pointed out Yesterday on Fox News, Military, Agressive and Warrior Imagery abounds on Both sides of the Political Aisle’s Rhetoric. Are You and the Left suggesting that we do away with something that even YOUR Side admits using? :confused:
 
sidbrown said:
Yes. And if people would look at the interview of Gabby Gifford, months before the shooting, they would see that she was concerned about this type of rhetoric.
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Who exactly told crazy people to start shooting people?
 
qui_est_ce said:
Nobody on this thread compared Obama to Hitler. In fact, I have seen only praise for Obama’s handling of the matter here.

Why do you bring up these nonsequitors?
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I was commenting on post #209.
I think it is wrong to portray Obama as Hitler. When I walk out of the US post office in our area, I see demonstrators there with such pictures.
 
SamH said:
Who exactly told crazy people to start shooting people?
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From psychology, it is known that there is such a thing as subliminal suggestions which impact upon the deranged more so than the normal person.
 
There is still no known connection between the shooter and political conservatives, except in the minds of certain commentators and public officials (like Sheriff Dupnik) who are of the opposite ideology.

As I said in a previous post, the shooter cited Hitler, Marx, Gueverez as some of his favorite authors/influences. I believe this was posted on his myspace and also officials at his school have items where the young man listed some of those books as his favorite.

How Hitler, Marx and Che Guevara are connected with Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck I’ll never understand.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
We need neither conservative nor liberal gloating. Why is it that everyone wants to bring gasoline to that fire? :mad:
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Sure… after 4 days of liberals blaming Sarah Palin, tea party, talk radio and Fox News…

After numerous death threats to Palin. After a Sheriff in charge of investigating a mass murder now blaming Rush Limbaugh and vowing to find evidence that isnt there on a crazy lunatic murderer… Now the head of the democrat party in that county vowing it will be conservatives behind it…
After calls for free speech (of only conservatives mind you) being shut down.
The NY Times… a mere 2 hours after the shooting blaming Palin/Bachman.

All why the left had a target on the congresswoman themselves. Plenty of “target” “enemy” and commercials with Republicans in actual crosshairs (JD Hayworth)
…anyone who has ever looked through the scope of a gun knows Palin wasnt using crosshairs… but, that of course doesnt matter to liberals.

Not to mention 8 years of wishing Dick Cheeny would die, movies about the assination of Bush (in fact…winning awards by liberals), Palin being hung in effigy, an actual “art” show where people could point a gun to the head of Palin and her little girl.

What liberals really want is their hypocrisy to stop being talked about. Especially by people they have spent the last 2 years calling people tea bagger, racist, redneck, hillbilly (snowbilly if your Palin) homophobes and bigots.

No conservative is gloating. Pointing out hypocrisy, yes.
After how many tragic events in this country where liberals salivated over the thought that the sicko could possible be conservative?
Of course… only to find out they were just another deranged person committing a terrible crime…story dropped.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
It’s not “gloating,”----Agreed. I WOULD call it “Needless Finding Of Causation Between Two Events that are NOT Immediately Known to be Related.”:p:rolleyes:😃
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Maybe “needless suggestion,” but not “needless finding.” I didn’t draw a conclusion. 🙂
 
I haven’t read this whole thread since I find partisan vitriol of any kind completely repulsive, and if similar comments to mine have already been made, please excuse the repetition.

I find it amazing that anyone on either side of the political fence – or anyone in America – is surprised by this weekend’s horrific violence. As horrible and tragic as it was, it is but one more example of the violent culture we live in.

The past 30+ years have escalated acts of violence in our entertainment media to an unprecedented level – and real-life events have mirrored those. Unless one watches the pablum channels and/or movies, (and not always all of even that content), one is subjected to countless acts of gratuitous violence about every 3.5 seconds. Excepting perhaps the story’s victim’s family – we NEVER see any portrayal of any consequences of all the other murders and mayhem. Bodies fall like rocks in a landslide with no thought given to the people they represent – and real life is hardly different except for the first week after yet another incident like Tucson’s.

In actual life, we have come to accept as normal the number of murders, the culturally-driven gang violence, the appalling violence on our Mexican borders, the violence of our national pastime of war, and the unnamed and uncounted foreign victims of our that blood sport (we are NEVER told, for instance, the numbers of those military, insurgents or civilians we kill in foreign wars). .

We have accepted as reasonable the fact that our laws state we can’t bring guns to school. Good grief! Why should we even NEED a law such as that? Yet we’re too weak-kneed to outlaw assault weapon possession and then dismayed when events such as Tucson occur.

Even on this Forum, violence is not recognized as any threat to young people – the only sins ever discussed are dissent and sexual infractions – but the violence done to our spirit in portraying murder, torture, abuse, etc., is considered just “benign entertainment.” I’d much rather my kids be exposed to open and natural sexuality than the soul-killing violence of gaming, movies and TV.

We are benumbed to what these years of casual violence have done to us – and there’s little hope of any turnaround as long as Hollywood sells it, the media promote it and we accept (and even desire it).

NONE of this is of Jesus. We Christians fail every day in this area of bringing Jesus’ peace to the world… and it’s not “them” – it’s us. Our tacit acceptance and our sanction of daily violence breeds acts like Tucson experienced – even if that particular massacre was conceived by a sick mind.

Quit pointing fingers to one political faction or another – the problem is all of us, what we permit, what we’ve become, the direction we’re heading. It’s not too far off before we’re promised a grenade in every soup pot – and we buy that, too.
 
Stjudeprayforus said:
No conservative is gloating. Pointing out hypocrisy, yes.
After how many tragic events in this country where liberals salivated over the thought that the sicko could possible be conservative?
Of course… only to find out they were just another deranged person committing a terrible crime…story dropped.
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You folks are perfect in every way; it’s us liberals who are vile salivators, hypocrites, liars and who revel in the misery of others.

Keep feeding those propositions. It’ll go far in making at least me interested in joining conservatives in any common cause. 🤷
 
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