Sheriff Dupnik's criticism of political 'vitriol' resonates with public

[Stjudeprayforus]

washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/dem-congressman-who-called-gop-gov-be-put-against-wall-and-shot-n

Ex-Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa., pens an op-ed in the New York Times today about the proper political response to this weekend’s tragedy.

“We all lose an element of freedom when security considerations distance public officials from the people. Therefore, it is incumbent on all Americans to create an atmosphere of civility and respect in which political discourse can flow freely, without fear of violent confrontation”

Incumbent on all Americans to create an atmosphere of civility and respect? Congressman heal thyself!
Kanjorski said this about Florida’s new Republican Governor Rick Scott on October 23:
"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida," Mr. Kanjorski said. "Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."

 

[estesbob]

Arizonans Rally to Prevent Westboro Church Disruption of Shooting Victims’ Funerals

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Arizona residents are locking arms to stop the Westboro Baptist Church from disrupting the funerals for victims of Saturday’s shooting in Tucson, with bikers and others organizing a massive counter-protest and state lawmakers fast-tracking a bill to hamstring the group.

foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/11/arizonans-rally-prevent-westboro-church-disruption-shooting-victims-funerals/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal±+Politics±+Text%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Arizonans Rally to Prevent Westboro Church Disruption of Shooting Victims’ Funerals

Arizona residents are locking arms to stop the Westboro Baptist Church from disrupting the funerals for victims of Saturday’s shooting in Tucson, with bikers and others organizing a massive counter-protest and state lawmakers fast-tracking a bill to hamstring the group.

foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/11/arizonans-rally-prevent-westboro-church-disruption-shooting-victims-funerals/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal±+Politics±+Text%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

Ironically, there were reports that even Hell’s Angels were considering showing up to support the mourners at the funeral and block Phelps and his pack of inbreds.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

Arizonans Rally to Prevent Westboro Church Disruption of Shooting Victims’ Funerals

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Arizona residents are locking arms to stop the Westboro Baptist Church from disrupting the funerals for victims of Saturday’s shooting in Tucson, with bikers and others organizing a massive counter-protest and state lawmakers fast-tracking a bill to hamstring the group.

foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/11/arizonans-rally-prevent-westboro-church-disruption-shooting-victims-funerals/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal±+Politics±+Text%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

Good for them!

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Ironically, there were reports that even Hell’s Angels were considering showing up to support the mourners at the funeral and block Phelps and his pack of inbreds.

The very group that needs to be there.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Rather, we are pointing out the shameful behavior of the left right now.

Ah, yes. The Left - each and every one of us.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Good post. Methinks Brother Rich is getting a Tad Defensive about this.

And why not? Lumping me in with the Great Monolithic Left is not, at least in my opinion, the way to make friends and influence people.

I don’t make personal attacks on individuals here.

 

[estesbob]

Glock Pistol Sales Surge in Aftermath of Arizona Shootings

After a Glock-wielding gunman killed six people at a Tucson shopping center on Jan. 8, Greg Wolff, the owner of two Arizona gun shops, told his manager to get ready for a stampede of new customers.

Wolff was right. Instead of hurting sales, the massacre had the $499 semi-automatic pistols – popular with police, sport shooters and gangsters – flying out the doors of his Glockmeister stores in Mesa and Phoenix.

bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-11/glock-pistol-sales-surge-in-aftermath-of-shooting-of-arizona-s-giffords.html

 

[EmperorNapoleon]

In fact, since 9/11 because of the Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act we haven’t seen any large acts of violence in the US.

Violence is violence; whether on a large or small scale. The map you posted hasn’t been updated since 1997 and doesn’t include any of the dozens of acts of vandalism against campaign offices and private homes.

You keep saying this evidence but you offer no evidence whatsoever. Dozens of acts of vandalism in a country of 400 million people is hardly evidence of anything. Again you’re offering a solution to a problem that does not exist.

It’s CLEAR evidence of an increase in politically motivated violence. Were dozens of campaign offices attacked and vandalized in the 90s? No.

Ummmmm, Alan Hevesi was just a private citizen?

Since 2006 and you’re really grasping at straws in trying to equate the influence of a former State assemblyman to a former Governor and Vice Presidential candidate.

Ummmmm, John Kerry was just a private citizen?

John Kerry never advocated the assassination of Donald Rumsfeld.

 

[estesbob]

Violence is violence; whether on a large or small scale. The map you posted hasn’t been updated since 1997 and doesn’t include any of the dozens of acts of vandalism against campaign offices and private homes.

It’s CLEAR evidence of an increase in politically motivated violence. Were dozens of campaign offices attacked and vandalized in the 90s? No.

Since 2006 and you’re really grasping at straws in trying to equate the influence of a former State assemblyman to a former Governor and Vice Presidential candidate.

John Kerry never advocated the assassination of Donald Rumsfeld.

Still waiting for you to post any evidence whatsoever that the rhetoric is harsher today than it was in the past and that political rhetoric has led to any increase in violence whatsoever. Can you give us a link showing the number of offices vandalized now as compared to those vandalized in the past? Can you give us a link supporting your assertion that not only has violence increased but it is a result of harsher political rhetoric?

 

[Los_Angeles]

Or, maybe we re-think our ideas about the circumstances of committing our insane to mental hospitals?

You have only to visit the streets of Santa Monica, CA to realize how many lunatics are on the loose (most probably harmless - but is it really compassionate to let them have “freedom” to eat from the dumpsters?)

If it is known that someone is a threat to themselves or someone else, they can be sent to a mental hospital for a period of days for a check up by a psychatrist.

I cannot make a judgement of all the homless in Santa Monica, CA but many near the pier area and 3rd Street Promenade area benefit from donations from the affluent and patrons of the business in the area both during the daytime and nighttime since it is a well-to-do area. If I were to be homeless, that is the locations where I would go.

On the other hand, in downtown Los Angeles area near the Greyhound bus station, it is truly depressing - there are plenty of homeless that congregate in that area who are hard core drug addicts what don’t get much attention from “average” citzens.

If anything I have said is against the Catholic Church, let it be anathema.

 

[Los_Angeles]

This is the only thing on CAF that I have ever agreed with you on, gilliam. This was not political. The media on “both” sides of the “extreme views” have turned it into a “political situation.”

When all is said and done, more will be said than done.

If profilers are doing their job they find this was a case of stalking obsession. Nothing to do with politics whatsoever.

And I agree with you Julianna, that this tragedy was not political.

If anything I have said is against the Catholic Church, let it be anathema.

 

[EmperorNapoleon]

Again it is laughable that you would cite dozens of offices vandalized in the last 20 years as an indication of increased violence.

What is laughable is the refusal to accept the fact that politically motivated violence has increased in the last few years. There weren’t dozens of campaign offices attacked and vandalized in the 90s; There were in the last few years.There wasn’t this kind of violent inuendo at the forefront of political “discourse” in the 90s. In short, there wasn’t a Tea Party.

 

[estesbob]

What is laughable is the refusal to accept the fact that politically motivated violence has increased in the last few years. There weren’t dozens of campaign offices attacked and vandalized in the 90s; There were in the last few years.There wasn’t this kind of violent inuendo at the forefront of political “discourse” in the 90s. In short, there wasn’t a Tea Party.

The problem is you have not produced one iota of evidence that political violence has increased in the last few years. You say there weren’t campaign offices attacked and vandalized in the 90s but provide no evidence whatsoever for this.

On the other hand ample evidence has been posted to show that political violence is actually less than has been in the past and that political rhetoric is probably milder today then it was in the past.

 

[Suudy]

Since 2006 and you’re really grasping at straws in trying to equate the influence of a former State assemblyman to a former Governor and Vice Presidential candidate.

“… put a bullet between his eyes …” when talking about Chuck Schumer isn’t influential? When Schumer’s name comes up, you don’t thing a significant number of people pay attention? And this is “grasping at straws” when compared to a crosshair on a map?

John Kerry never advocated the assassination of Donald Rumsfeld.

I didn’t say he did. Read the quotes. Kerry said he “could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone”. That’s not worse than crosshairs on a map?

Come on.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

What is laughable is the refusal to accept the fact that politically motivated violence has increased in the last few years. There weren’t dozens of campaign offices attacked and vandalized in the 90s; There were in the last few years.There wasn’t this kind of violent inuendo at the forefront of political “discourse” in the 90s. In short, there wasn’t a Tea Party.

Oh brother.

 

[He_Man]

I find this politicizing of an extremely tragic event not only callous and totally shameful, but very sad that some are shallow and unfeeling enough to try to capitalize on it for their own political gain. It’s narcissism at it’s finest. When we should be mourning and praying for the families that have been devastated by this horror, instead we’re arguing over left/ right blame. On the one hand, being totally in opposition with the policies of this President, I think he has handled this particular tragedy beautifully. He is to be commended. I do wish at some point he would make a statement about the vileness of politicizing such a tragedy.

Makes one want to shout from the rooftops…STOP IT!!!

He is planning to condemn the haste to make judgements; he is just waiting to make sure Loughner is Muslim first.

 

[a_priori]

A mentally defective person committed multiple murders. Anyone who thinks that right-wing political rhetoric caused him to do this should take some time and understand the “Confirmation Bias”.

I’ll help:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

 

[ronnie_bonigli]

What is laughable is the refusal to accept the fact that politically motivated violence has increased in the last few years. There weren’t dozens of campaign offices attacked and vandalized in the 90s; There were in the last few years.There wasn’t this kind of violent inuendo at the forefront of political “discourse” in the 90s. In short, there wasn’t a Tea Party.

In just the 17 years from 1963 to 1980 we had JFK assassinated, MLK assassinated, Bobby Kennedy assassinated, George Wallace crippled in an attempted assassination, Gerald Ford was in an attempted assassination Twice, and Ronald Reagon nearly died in an attempted assassination. btw at least half of the perps were nuts, like this latest nut, but no one was lying about the “real motive” being caused from all the “dangerous rhetoric” (probably because the Democrats weren’t looking for a life-line after suffering the worst rejection from the public in 70 years)

Shamelessly using a horrible tragedy where a 9 year old girl died to try and help themselves politically is just going to disgust the public with the morally bankrupt democrats even more than they felt on November 2.

 

[Whitacre_Girl]

In just the 17 years from 1963 to 1980 we had JFK assassinated, MLK assassinated, Bobby Kennedy assassinated, George Wallace crippled in an attempted assassination, Gerald Ford was in an attempted assassination Twice, and Ronald Reagon nearly died in an attempted assassination. btw at least half of the perps were nuts, like this latest nut, but no one was lying about the “real motive” being caused from all the “dangerous rhetoric” (probably because the Democrats weren’t looking for a life-line after suffering the worst rejection from the public in 70 years)

Shamelessly using a tragedy to try and gain politically is just going to disgust the public with the morally bankrupt democrats even more than they felt on November 2.

Can I second this? Pls?