Not eight FULL hours, but the Hours of the office they have developed (based on their inspiration reading St Basil the Great, no less). I’ve a copy of their publicationm, and it is decent. They even have a calendar of saints. Alex
Prodigal Son, I’m right w/ you. Judge not.
Are these organized Protestant communities, or just individuals? I have a friend who was asking if there were any consecrated Protestant religious, so if you have a link to more information I’d like to share it with her.A few of them actually are - and they all do value celibacy.
To belong to the Order of St Luke, one can be either celibate or married via Third Order. They wear red scapulars and, in every which way, are like the historic religious Orders.
My point is not say that these Protestants are more spiritual than Catholics, only that they can be as spiritual and, in the case of many Catholics I know, give us a run for our money in the spirituality department.
These Protestants I know aren’t cloistered either. They live a real Christian commitment in the world and witness to Christ openly.
I just wish that more Catholics (that I know up here) would go beyond Sunday Mass and do like them (and yes, some of them, both Anglicans and Lutherans, are seeking to come into the Ordinariate).
Alex
That is the key issue, in one sentence. Willful dissent without repentence.
I recall no infallible pronouncements on the doctrine of contraception.
That is my attempt always. I pray that some day you will attempt the same. Your constant insults are tedious.
The teaching of the Catholic Church on fornication is the same as the Orthodox Church: it is a sin.
Ah, ok. I wasn’t sure if you meant canonical hours or actual hours. Still, that is a lot of time praying each day.
Uh-oh. Now you’ve gone and done it Madaglan…be prepared for the release of the pit-bull.
See the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The teachings contained therein are considered binding and infallible.
It’s not an insult, it’s truth, and I try to proclaim it whenever possible. I’m sorry if that’s disturbing to you.
I was not aware that the CCC was not an “infallible” publication. Where is this documented?
Yes it is. It would be best if you attempted to represent the teachings of your own church.
This is true only if you don’t consider remarriage after divorce fornication, which the Catholic Church does. Therefore, by the CC’s standards, Orthodox persons who remarry after divorce are fornicating.
Absolutely. However, the Orthodox has reversed its prior position on contraception and now allows couples to use condoms to space pregnancies. The Catholic Church teaches that violating the unitive aspect of the marital act by placing a sheath of latex between husband and wife is a sin and a grave moral evil.
Yes, they are.
Do you consider the truth an insult? If so, not much I can do about that.
Of course not. I consider your insults to be insults.
Actually, if you read my posts, I’m one of the Cafeteria Catholics. I’m the one being judgedBit judgmental…no? I have yet to meet a Catholic who didn’t pick and choose something. I’m sure all you guys here are completely 100% catholic though.
And where does the Church teach one must be anti gay?
I can’t stand these holier then thou threads! Makes me sick.
Have a Blessed Holy Week and keep on judging others!
(How is it an insult to say that the Orthodox Church has, indeed, changed its teachings?Of course not. I consider your insults to be insults.
Once again, if you’re insulted by truth, I can’t do much about that.I wrote a blog post about whole “Catholics can’t judge!!” misconception a while back…Actually, if you read my posts, I’m one of the Cafeteria Catholics. I’m the one being judged
Then it would be the same for RC’s after annulment.
NFP is a more effective contraceptive method than condoms. Furthermore, the vatican is doing a studying regarding condom use for special circumstances.
Nope, not at all, because a person can’t get remarried if s/he wasn’t actually married to begin with.
NFP is not contraception, and a study does not equal established, taught , practiced doctrine.
She has not. It has always been obedience between spiritual child and spiritual father. Stop your insults.
It is your insults that are insulting.
Mary Gail,:sad_yes:
for 20 years I stayed in mortal sin, starting at age 14 when I stopped going to Mass.
I remember watching Phil Donohue, and he had Martin Scorsese as a guest. This has to be circa 20 years ago, so I might not remember exactly.
Phil: Don’t you think the Church needs to change, allow XYZ, bla-bla bla, etc?
Martin: No, I don’t believe the Church has to change, I just don’t agree with it’s teachings.
I was like Martin, and actually would defend the Church’s stance on basically everything in discussions.
But I didn’t agree with ABC, or abortion (I used to be pro choice, shamefully enough)
What brought me back? The Eucharist. I, fortunately knew the rules, no receiving unless you have been to confession for any mortal sins. So for 20 years I abstained.
My husband started going to Mass first, daily Mass, and seeing his spiritual advisor.
Me, “I don’t need to go to Church to Love God”
But I would go with him, and sit in the pew, and inevitably, starting at the Liturgy of the Eucharist, I’d start to weep. Always. I don’t know why. Maybe my soul ached because I was separate from God.
So finally I went to confession, 7 years ago February.
Bottom line, if the Church has the authority to ordain a Priest, and that Priest in Persona Christi can give me Jesus, the Church has the authority to teach me and guide me to heaven.
Jesus died for me. If I were the only person on Earth, He would still die for me.
He is the one I am supposed to love more than all others. How can I say I don’t like his Bride, or His Bride needs to update and get with the times?
