Should Priests be able to marry?

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I wonder where the Priestly uprising is, clamoring for marriage? The demonstrations? The petitions to the Vatican?

Does no one think to actually ask them? They, in my experience, consider celibacy as a gift.
 
Friar_David_O.Carm said:
Look to the East for the answer.

Religious, monks, will always be unmarried as that is part of the charism of religious life and the evangelical counsels. Select bishops from the religious.

Not all bishops are selected from the secular priesthood.
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How are you going to ask a Trappist monk to be the head of diocese when he has never even been a diocesan priest?
 
Lady_Love said:
Whereas there are certain Rites of the church, that are “equal dignity, so that none of them is superior to the others as regards rite” (as is stated in the Vatican II council) I don’t see why, if someone was married and felt called to the priesthood, he couldn’t join the Byzantine Rite, for example?
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The Church views such a reason to switch sui iruis Churches (switch rites) with skepticism. The reason to switch ritual Churches is because one feels drawn to the traditions and approach taken by that ritual Church. Usually such a change requires a number of years and then if the man feels called to ordained ministry another couple of years actually practicing within the Church is required.

Getting married and attempting a switch is seen as an attempt to skirt canon law and is generally not allowed by the bishops of either Church involved.
 
I think w/ our Church letting other married priests of other religions convert, it might be an issue.
 
Nigel7 said:
No!

They’re already married, to Christ and His Church.
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This is not taught by the Church.

No where does the Church in the theology of Holy Orders nor in the ordination rites themselves is this image present.

This is a pious saying that has no basis in reality.
 
Friar_David_O.Carm said:
This is not taught by the Church.

No where does the Church in the theology of Holy Orders nor in the ordination rites themselves is this image present.

This is a pious saying that has no basis in reality.
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Lots of them wear wedding rings. I was at a funeral for someone’s mother in my office and one of the people I work with is Jewish and she was so confused why the priest had a wedding ring on.
 
KP3243 said:
How are you going to ask a Trappist monk to be the head of diocese when he has never even been a diocesan priest?
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Running a diocese has nothing to do with being a diocesan priest.

There are many, many bishops who were/are religious.

The tradition of the East is to elevate monks to the position of bishop but they do not have the tradition of multiple different sorts of religious that the West does.

In your example, the Trappist monk who would be elevated to bishop would most likely have served as abbot so he would have experience in running the monastery,

Keep in mind, the bishop delegates and hires others to do things that he feels he is weak in.
 
KP3243 said:
Lots of them wear wedding rings. I was at a funeral for someone’s mother in my office and one of the people I work with is Jewish and she was so confused why the priest had a wedding ring on.
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A pious tradition. No ring is given during the ordination rite.

I wear a profession ring. When I made my solemn profession I received a Carmelite ring. No where in the solemn profession rite was the ring blessed or given to me. I just started wearing it.
 
Yes, please let’s stop with the idea that priests are married to the Church. They simply are not. Neither are deacons or bishops married to the Church. It is not theologically correct to say so.

-Tim-
 
koolpc said:
Should Priests be able to marry?

My answer is yes, they should. If they did i think it would be a massive improvement in the trust they would get from the world as a whole.

What do you guys think?
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No, because the next thing that will happen is that homosexual priests will clamor to be allowed to marry too because it is only “fair” that they be allowed sexual pleasure too. Then the Church will have to recognize SS"M".
 
sedonaman said:
No, because the next thing that will happen is that homosexual priests will clamor to be allowed to marry too because it is only “fair” that they be allowed sexual pleasure too. Then the Church will have to recognize SS"M".
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Seeing that the Church does not recognize (and is against) same sex “marriage” and it views homosexuality as gravely disordered this could never happen.

Not only that your post is very offensive.
 
sedonaman said:
No, because the next thing that will happen is that homosexual priests will clamor to be allowed to marry too because it is only “fair” that they be allowed sexual pleasure too. Then the Church will have to recognize SS"M".
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Not sure how allowing a married man to be ordained (already done in tradition [small t]) follows into recognizing Same-Sex “Marriage” (condemned in Tradition).
 
Priests should be what they sign up for, just like marriage, no use whining about it after the event.

Therefore like marriage they should not enter into it too lightly, which is I’m afraid what many people do, with blinkers on.

Bad preparation is to blame & a reality check to see if it’s for them or not, not forgetting some with a hidden agenda, (homosexuals) to get involved with children, mainly young men…
 
In a culture of disordered sexuality, it’s refreshing to encounter people who honor vows of celibacy!!!

Prior to marrying my husband, I was surrounded by men with severe sexual disorders. I was in so surrounded by these men that it never crossed my mind that there were any men who would honor chastity. These men did prompt me to stay chaste out of fear of what I witnessed and fervently pray for those they preyed upon (Human traffing in Asia).

Anyways, in my fervent prayer I spent more time at church (mass, classes, adoration, groups). In learning priests took the vow of celebacy (I really didn’t know they did) I was given hope and the bitterness toward men diminished. I remember one mass a priest gave a homely calling men to align with the Chuch; stop watching porn, objectifying women, standing up for chastity, and so much more. I felt compelled to hug him after Mass as this was the first time I ever heard a man speak up against other men’s vices with such authority. It made it more powerful knowing he was a Priest who took a vow of celibacy!!!
 
Giggly_Giraffe said:
In a culture of disordered sexuality, it’s refreshing to encounter people who honor vows of celibacy!!!
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And why can’t the priest be an epitome of what marriage life is? Which is also what they are called to be. In the ancient canons of the Church, it was stated that only men 30 years or older can be ordained presbyters. The reason for this is that they want to have the man mature and the community know (priests back then came from the community) that they are good standing men. They also want to see their families grow up (back then you marry much younger) so if your teenage son or daughter is upright, then you are a good father and thus a qualified Father of the local congregation.
 
koolpc said:
Should Priests be able to marry?

My answer is yes, they should. If they did i think it would be a massive improvement in the trust they would get from the world as a whole.

What do you guys think?
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No priest should EVER be allowed to marry, regardless of rite or use. This goes against the immemorial practice of the Church.

I won’t object as much to married men being ordained priests, as this is already being done in other Catholic particular churches and on a case-by-case basis for the Anglican Use and Anglican Ordinariates.
 
Should priests be allowed to marry? Only if the Catholic Church deems that they can, which is highly unlikely. At the Council of Trent, the Council Fathers were greatly pressured to dispense with priestly celibacy, but the Fathers remained firm, and affirmed that celibacy would be the norm. At Vatican ll this was upheld as well, though allowances were made for mature married men to become deacons after Vatican ll (and former non-Catholics could receive holy orders, I think, under certain conditions). But basically, priestly celibacy is still upheld.

I was listening to an interview on EWTN a month or two ago, and a former non-Catholic who was married and had children had converted (who had been a Protestant minister ) and was ordained a priest after receiving a dispensation from the pope. In the interview, he talked about how much he liked being a priest, but that he now understands completely why the Church has the basic rule of priestly celibacy. He said that it was difficult to pay proper attention to his family, given his duties as a priest, and he just didn’t have time really to put into doing both well. A priests job is very busy and taxing, and having time for a family is difficult.
 
Once again I fail to see what this thread has to do with Traditional Catholicism, other than to provoke posters.
 
ConstantineTG said:
In the ancient canons of the Church, it was stated that only men 30 years or older can be ordained presbyters. The reason for this is that they want to have the man mature and the community know (priests back then came from the community) that they are good standing men. They also want to see their families grow up (back then you marry much younger) so if your teenage son or daughter is upright, then you are a good father and thus a qualified Father of the local congregation.
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No one here is denying that. The traditions of the West just simply developed a certain way. It happens.
 
Celibacy is a sacrifice. It’s a higher spiritual estate. I do wonder at the calls to remove everything Latin about the Roman Catholic Church. Maybe they’ll want the Pope will move to Los Angeles, next?
 
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